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Was it Right for These Mules to be Euthanized?

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  • #41
    My husband would have given them my mule for free............

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    • #42
      Euthanasia is a better end than slaughter.
      If they really paid 3k for a pair of mules the seller must be laughing all the way to the bank.
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      • #43
        I don't think it's right for any healthy animal, regardless of age, to be euthed for the purpose of becoming a museum exhibit. It's great that they were saved from slaughter, but that's actually incidental to the real reason for killing them.

        So from a strictly moral standpoint, I don't support euthanizing animals for museum exhibits. From a PRACTICAL standpoint, it was a much better end for these mules than they would have otherwise faced.
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        • #44
          If they payed $3000 for the team, those mules weren't destined for slaughter. Depending on their weight, slaughter horses are going for $300 or less. That was just some BS the museum made up to cover their backside when the story came out.
          I'm a second hand Vegan. Cows eat grass. I eat cows.

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          • #45
            I don't see anything wrong with it, either..Far better for them to be humanely euthanized, mounted and displayed in a museum than to endure the horrible transport down to Mexico and then face an even more horrible death. And, they will continue to "live on" as it were, in the museum, serving as educators of our past.

            We are lucky that we can give our companion animals a dignified end through euthanasia, if only that option were available to terminally ill people...but, that's a debate for an entirely different bulletin board....

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            • #46
              Originally posted by wireweiners View Post
              If they payed $3000 for the team, those mules weren't destined for slaughter. Depending on their weight, slaughter horses are going for $300 or less. That was just some BS the museum made up to cover their backside when the story came out.
              No, I can see the dealer putting the thumb screws to them. Plus I wonder how versed the curators are in the price of old equine on hoof bound for the packer.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Alagirl View Post
                No, I can see the dealer putting the thumb screws to them. Plus I wonder how versed the curators are in the price of old equine on hoof bound for the packer.
                Well, seeing as how its an agricultural museum, one would assume that either the curators or board members would have some knowledge of the current state of agriculture or at least access to that information. I think they bought the first team of mules offer them and when the poop hit the fan, they came up with the story that they were old and destined for slaughter. Notice how the age of the mules fluctuates. Were they in their late 20's or 10 or 12? Bet they wished they'd gone with the fiberglass models now. Personally, I'm with the taxidermy is creepy crowd.
                I'm a second hand Vegan. Cows eat grass. I eat cows.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Plainandtall View Post
                  Taxidermy equines just look like junk... I have never seen one I thought looked good except maybe a zebra. They always look ratty and forlorn, I think the hair is just too fine to hide the seams and the muzzles just don't work.
                  Originally posted by daisycutter87 View Post
                  Check out Phar Lap...best taxidermy job of an equine i've ever seen. It's amazing
                  It is! I would love to see it in person:

                  http://www.pharlapdoco.com/

                  http://lh3.ggpht.com/-G-jDqbec61o/SC...%252520Lap.JPG


                  http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...th-d3iymw4.jpg

                  Still, apparently difficult to get the lips and the ears spot on. Somewhere I found an article about the art that went into it. Still searching

                  Here are photos of the process http://bodgiesandwidgies.blogspot.co...1_archive.html
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                  • #49
                    SmartAlex, thanks for that link to the taxidermy process--absolutely fascinating. What artisans they were. (His lips looked "off" to me too, until I compared it to the photo of PharLap when he was living-- they look pretty much the same before/after.)

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                    • #50
                      Do they want a couple of Saddlebred's for their display? Rather that, then the trip Mexico or Canada.

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                      • #51
                        Originally posted by JGHIRETIRE View Post
                        Euthanasia is a better end than slaughter.
                        That's what I said on Facebook yesterday. Lucky mules! They didn't have to get knifed to death in Mexico. I feel sorry for the ones the museum didn't buy.

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                        • #52
                          Okay, to be clear. I thought vets wouldn't euth healthy animals, had to be something wrong with them. To my mind, if a mule belongs to someone and they want to stuff and mount it, they should be able to.

                          Is there an official 'rule' on euthing healthy mules and horses??
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                          • #53
                            Originally posted by goneriding24 View Post
                            Okay, to be clear. I thought vets wouldn't euth healthy animals, had to be something wrong with them. To my mind, if a mule belongs to someone and they want to stuff and mount it, they should be able to.

                            Is there an official 'rule' on euthing healthy mules and horses??
                            There was a thread here recently about this because someone was trying to investigate having her horses euthed if she couldn't rehome them (couldn't keep them due to sudden major change in income) and her vet reportedly wouldn't do it. So not all vets will, it seems like.

                            That said, I'd be pretty cranky if my vet refused to euth if I had a good reason, even if the animal was healthy. There are a huge number of healthy animals these days who are not finding homes because they're nothing particularly special and the market is bad enough that you can get nicer quality for cheap - one horse I was seriously looking at buying a bit ago (before sanity reasserted itself) was older and grade and so one of the things I did consider was "could I have him euthanized if that was the best option?" because as much as I would not want to euthanize a healthy animal, I'd want it to end up on the kill truck even less. I think that's just a reality of owning horses/mules/critters with the economy the way it is. A good vet, to my mind, understands that sort of thing.

                            (For clarity, euthing would not be my first choice at all but if nothing else worked out - friends, friends of friends, the Giveaway section here, etc. - then I would consider that to be more responsible than running the horse through a kill auction where it was 99% certain to end up on the truck.)

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                            • #54
                              SmartAlex- I take back what I said- that Phar Lap mount is impressive!

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                              • #55
                                in watching a taxidermy show, one guy was given an old cat to do and he said old animals are so much harder to do, the skin and hair does not hold up well to the process

                                large taxidermy done by a good artist will run into the thousands, I think on the show there was a lion that ran about 10,000 to do

                                I would also imagine that finding a horse mold would be hard to find as most modern taxidermy is the hide put on a fiberglass mold

                                while not ideal, to get a matching pair, that is in "good enough" condition to be nice looking taxidermy it was prob hard to find a matched pair

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                                • #56
                                  This thread is a great example of "learn something every day" by visiting COTH!

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                                  • #57
                                    Originally posted by Burbank View Post
                                    I would also imagine that finding a horse mold would be hard to find as most modern taxidermy is the hide put on a fiberglass mold
                                    http://www.vandykestaxidermy.com/Horse-C1056.aspx


                                    LOL!
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                                    Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans

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                                    • #58
                                      well I stand corrected on the molds, they are out there, thank you Alex

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                                      • #59
                                        The Phar Lap mount is not only stunning, but respectful. Thanks for posting.

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                                        • #60
                                          The bunny huggers are getting all worked up on FB again thanks to this

                                          http://horseandman.com/bucket-fund-s...ipeline-today/
                                          Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans

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