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Very broke two year old....Draft. Nice.

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  • #21
    Love him. Someone needs to get him.
    "Those who know the least often know it the loudest."

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    • #22
      Originally posted by paulaedwina View Post
      I think it's safe to say it's not dressage in particular, it's starting horses into work too darned young!
      I don't think it's a big secret that WBs have a higher than average incidence of OCD, either from genetics and/or the way they're managed as youngsters rather than because they're being started too early.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by realrush89 View Post
        Riding a long yearling? I just said Oh really? and walked away.
        You are aware darn near all TBs destined for the track are started as long yearlings and being actively raced at 2? Where's the outrage about that?

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        • #24
          Oh, I don't think claims of abuse and outrage are really justified. That tiny tot is certainly no big stress to the horse. And some teenage girl (looks like) riding him around bareback, for a walk down the road or through the hayfield?? eh, not such a big deal either.

          I don't see a horse dripping in sweat, blood, and tears. I see a pretty happy, calm, confident horse who seems trusting of, and interested in, his handlers.

          Come one folks, they are walking.
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          • #25
            He is a cutey.

            At the beginning of the video it looks like the horse is actually following another horse, instead of the little one doing any amount of real riding and telling him what to do.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by rcloisonne View Post
              You are aware darn near all TBs destined for the track are started as long yearlings and being actively raced at 2? Where's the outrage about that?
              Oh I am chock full of outrage over horse racing and how it chews up TBs and spits them out

              Paula
              He is total garbage! Quick! Hide him on my trailer (Petstorejunkie).

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              • #27
                That kid MIGHT weigh 60 pounds soaking wet. It's not the greatest for her to be hauling herself up there in the saddle, but it's far from the worst I've seen. Teenager isn't all that big either. It would probably tick me off more to see a 250 pound yahoo aboard, working the horse into a lather and overbending him to death.

                He's a nice looking horse and I'd fetch him if my inn wasn't full and he was closer.

                THIS outrages me more:

                http://raleigh.craigslist.org/grd/3174012683.html

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                • #28
                  Ugh, idiots. Watching that kid climb up his side is the scariest thing I've seen all day.

                  Horse is a saint. Someone needs to snatch him up.
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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by ChocoMare View Post
                    Good idea Paula. I sent them the "Ranger" article
                    Thank you for posting this, I had never read it before. It is always nice to learn new things. I knew generally that horses were not mature at two, but did not know the particulars of bone development that she outlined. I was surprised that six is the age of maturity. I always thought it was four.
                    "Random capitAlization really Makes my day." -- AndNirina

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                    • #30
                      Glad to help. It is very "eye opening." Also need to remember that Drafts take longer than light horses to finish... my Clyde-X wasn't done until she was 8.
                      <>< Sorrow Looks Back. Worry Looks Around. Faith Looks Up! -- Being negative only makes a difficult journey more difficult. You may be given a cactus, but you don't have to sit on it.

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by ChocoMare View Post
                        Glad to help. It is very "eye opening." Also need to remember that Drafts take longer than light horses to finish... my Clyde-X wasn't done until she was 8.
                        Indeed. This makes this broke-to-ride draft cross an even worse crime.

                        Paula
                        He is total garbage! Quick! Hide him on my trailer (Petstorejunkie).

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                        • #32
                          The unfortunate thing about this ad is that it is effective. I want that horse. He has a beautiful temperament, he looks well-cared for, and despite his early training, it looks like the work he's doing is very mild compared to what many young horses are doing. In spite of the errors of their training methods, the owners have clearly done some things right in teaching him certain basics and getting him accustomed to things that a riding horse will encounter. (I was particularly impressed when the little girl said, "whoa" and he stopped before she pulled on the reins.) It seems like they treat him kindly and his behavior reflects it.

                          This is the basic problem with stopping this kind of advertising. Other sellers see ads like this and know that the ad works, but don't care or don't realize the problems presented by this kind of advertising, such as promoting the too-early backing of a young horse, promoting and exploiting the use of children in the ad and placing them in danger, and promoting an image of children riding without helmets. Advertising is powerful, but I doubt that that advertiser was thinking of the power of her ad in affecting other people.

                          Also, I have mixed feelings about the kids crawling all over the horse. I was one of those young kids crawling over patient horses. That was how it was done. Would I let my child do the same? No. Would I make an ad like this? No. But like someone else said, it's certainly not even close to being among the worst I've seen.
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                          • #33
                            Originally posted by ChocoMare View Post
                            Glad to help. It is very "eye opening." Also need to remember that Drafts take longer than light horses to finish... my Clyde-X wasn't done until she was 8.
                            The very article linked states that breed does not effect skeletal growth (see page 6).

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                            • #34
                              Oh, I missed that. Thanks for pointing that out.
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                              • #35
                                Originally posted by rcloisonne View Post
                                You are aware darn near all TBs destined for the track are started as long yearlings and being actively raced at 2? Where's the outrage about that?
                                I am aware; that's what I used to breed was thoroughbreds. But this lady had her colt's training began in the late fall of his yearling year. Most TBs I've dealt with destined for the track didn't go into training until after the first of the year when they "officially" turned 2 and then didn't start racing until later in the year.

                                Personally, I would never let a baby even start training until they were 3.

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                                • #36
                                  Great article, thanks! My very tall mare is celebrating her 8th birthday in a couple weeks. I swear she's been growing until recently. She's filled up and out when didn't need to get any taller.

                                  About the draft - what a saint! He is going to be a bus when he's done growing, but he'll make someone very happy!
                                  Born under a rock and owned by beasts!

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                                  • #37
                                    I sent a tactful note through the draftsforsale ad. Maybe the owners will stop and think about the potential repercussions of allowing their precious children to climb onto a horse without a helmet. The little girl in the first picture is adorable and could have been two seconds away from sliding under the belly of that horse.

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                                    • #38
                                      Id take the horse in a heartbeat. I think there is some over reaction here. Yes, they do stupid things. But it does not appear they are galloping a baby around wildly. The horse does not seem stressed. And as far as riding without helmets, not smart. But not hugely unusual for casual riders. I'll confess, growing up I did it too, gasp!!.

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                                      • #39
                                        I don't think outrage at them riding a baby is an over reaction.

                                        Paula
                                        He is total garbage! Quick! Hide him on my trailer (Petstorejunkie).

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                                        • #40
                                          I have no problem with anything they are doing IF the horse was a year or two older, just makes me want to cry that they have started him so young.

                                          But like every one else I'd take him in a heart beat, turn him out and bring him back later, lovely nature, and I would imagine he could be great fun for the right person.

                                          ETA, at least he looks like he os being cared for properly, several steps up from needing a rescue in case he dies from malnutrition, just hope that someone buys him and lets him mature again before doing any more
                                          I'm not sure if I grew out of stupid or ran out of brave.

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