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  • #21
    Originally posted by carolprudm View Post
    I have 2 Irish Draught/(supposedly)Connemara/Trakhener crosses. And the Conn/Trak herself. I've also ridden and coveted a Paso/TB cross.
    LOL.. There must be a linux geek somewhere who would like an ip_conntrack :=)
    Nudging "Almost Heaven" a little closer still...
    http://www.wvhorsetrainer.com

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    • #22
      Keep talking about belgians
      Nudging "Almost Heaven" a little closer still...
      http://www.wvhorsetrainer.com

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      • #23
        Originally posted by michaleenflynn View Post
        Major pet peeve, second only to 'heart-wrenching' (heart-rending), and only because I hear that one more often
        But I think both of those are actually acceptable? I just checked the dictionary and both appear. Is it cultural perhaps? Certainly as a Brit, I would say "I had a heart wrenching experience". The words are all correct and have the correct meaning, whereas a Belgium draft is incorrect compared to a Belgian draft.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Kate66 View Post
          [...] whereas a Belgium draft is incorrect compared to a Belgian draft.
          heck, it isn't even correct when you talk about beer...

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Alagirl View Post
            heck, it isn't even correct when you talk about beer...
            Nudging "Almost Heaven" a little closer still...
            http://www.wvhorsetrainer.com

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            • #26
              Well at least it's an Arab stud... which means that if he's registered they are all eligible to be registered as 1/2 Arabians - which have more of a market than some purebred breeds. (not that the "breeder" isn't an obvious fruitbat)

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Hippolyta View Post
                this!!

                I went to an (unnamed) newer registry inspection & there was one breeder with just a mess of horses, all oddball combos that taken one at a time weren't so bad, but at the end of the day she had run so many through that I got the impression that she was experimenting with her breeding like someone baking new cookie combos.

                None of them were too bad, but not too great, either. and it wasn't like she maybe had a stallion of one breed that she was using on different mares. They were all completely different, all with at least 3 breeds, sometimes more.

                I think there were at least 8 that were hers, possibly more.
                Half-assed "registry" outfits are promoting this problem. I'm one who favors State licensing to become a horse breeder, same as many states require for breeding purebred dogs. This, alas, is why the meat auctions will never run out of material . . .

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                • #28
                  We used to call these grade horses, in the olden days ... it wasn't really all that bad of a term, just meant they were horses with mixed breeding and no papers. Most of whom were good horses.

                  Now we just have the term "warmblood" and "sporthorse" to cover all that!

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                  • #29
                    Yes but a "grade horse" can be ANYTHING. Sporthorse implies that it has potential as an English horse. I always thought the same for WB's but apparently the buckaroos are calling ranch horses with draft in them WB's now.
                    "It's never too late to be what you might have been." George Eliot

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                    • #30
                      As for the whole "Belgium/Belgian pet peeve" I appologize profusely to any & all I may have offended. I'm obviously as stupid as the CL poster. I can count the number of Belgians that I've met on one hand & had no idea what a hornet's net this topic is.
                      "It's never too late to be what you might have been." George Eliot

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by Kate66 View Post
                        But I think both of those are actually acceptable? I just checked the dictionary and both appear. Is it cultural perhaps? Certainly as a Brit, I would say "I had a heart wrenching experience". The words are all correct and have the correct meaning, whereas a Belgium draft is incorrect compared to a Belgian draft.
                        In popular usage, it seems (to my mind; I have long been a frustrated etymologist ) that when needing to indicate an accent on sadness, people have replaced 'rending' for 'wrenching', due to the widely known phrase, 'gut-wrenching'. I believe some of these people have probably heard the phrase 'heart-rending', but, not knowing what 'rending' (or even what 'rendering' is, see below), either think they misheard, or think it was mispronounced, or just simply stick with what they know that makes some sense. (To back this up, I will bet if you stopped 10 people in the street at random and asked them what 'rend' means, you'd get no more than 1-3 correct answers. The local rendering plant is a thing of the past, and cookbooks no longer give instructions for the housewife on how to make soap. Perhaps you'd get a higher percentage of correct answers if you polled Food Network aficionados, though

                        This lays out my POV perfectly on his:

                        http://www.dailywritingtips.com/hear...gut-wrenching/
                        Last edited by michaleenflynn; Aug. 1, 2012, 03:35 PM. Reason: so that I'm not a goober
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                        • #32
                          We always called it the rendering plant. But we were also, possibly, goobers.

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                          • #33
                            Originally posted by leaf View Post
                            We always called it the rendering plant. But we were also, possibly, goobers.
                            ^^This^^ Lol. Are you from Idaho also?
                            "It's never too late to be what you might have been." George Eliot

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                            • #34
                              Originally posted by Scaramouch View Post
                              ... somehow doesn't scream "well structured breeding program."

                              It certainly doesn't lead me to assume that the stallion is papered or breeding quality. I hope they end up with good owners willing to put work into yearlings who are more of an unknown quantity than most.
                              Ditto.

                              I don't know about you, but in my area there isn't really a shortage of "unpapered odd-mixed-breed horses out of a random stallion" foals.

                              This is not the right economy to be producing random mutts. My money is that the foals lean towards being a bit fugly. The criteria for picking a stallion for a mare needs to be more than "I got me my own arab stallion and he's so purty and why should I go to the trouble of fencing him out when he can make such ky00t foals!"

                              How about I pay the owner $500, and instead of taking a foal from her I'll only want to take the stud's testicles away?
                              Veterinarians for Equine Welfare

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                              • #35
                                I'm with those who get a bit peeved when they hear a horse called a Belgium. Belgium is a country. The breed is Belgian. I'm sorry, I know it sounds mean, but my gut reaction is to assume the speaker isn't very well educated.
                                Veterinarians for Equine Welfare

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                                • #36
                                  Originally posted by leaf View Post
                                  We always called it the rendering plant. But we were also, possibly, goobers.
                                  Leaf, you aren't a goober. It is a rendering plant.

                                  Rend & render are two different words.

                                  But, I suppose when you feel horrible, referring to your heart as being converted into industrial fats isn't a bad description

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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by leaf View Post
                                    We always called it the rendering plant. But we were also, possibly, goobers.
                                    Gah, no - *I* am the goober, that was a typo on my part!
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                                    • #38
                                      Originally posted by Hippolyta View Post
                                      But, I suppose when you feel horrible, referring to your heart as being converted into industrial fats isn't a bad description
                                      Very true
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                                      • #39
                                        Originally posted by Miichelle View Post
                                        Yes but a "grade horse" can be ANYTHING. Sporthorse implies that it has potential as an English horse. I always thought the same for WB's but apparently the buckaroos are calling ranch horses with draft in them WB's now.
                                        Actually a " grade" horse is any unregistered horse isn't it? If you can't prove parentage ( through registration) it is a grade horse. Many sporthorses are just a type that someone is breeding for. They have the look that english disciplines require but not all have the actual WB breeding to go with that look.

                                        These horses in the CL ad might be nicer than you think. I've seen many papered horses ( AQHA, TB)with good bloodlines that left me speechless and not in a good way.

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                                        • #40
                                          Most of the breeding done in my area are registered QH's (since they're registered & their great, great grandsire was a famous "something" that makes them quality, right?). I'll take a chance on an Arab, TB, Belgian before I buy MOST QH's around here.
                                          "It's never too late to be what you might have been." George Eliot

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