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  • #21
    Meh. I'm generally a helmet nazi, but even I will make exceptions occasionally. I once did a photoshoot ... bareback, bridleless, in a bikini, on the beach, cantering through the water with some friends.

    I figured it was a once-in-a-lifetime thing, since I will never look that good in a bikini again.

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    • #22
      I wear a helmet every ride, but I have pictures where I'm not wearing my helmet. I think we only got two before I hopped down, and we got a lot of good ones on the ground. I don't feel weird when I see them and I don't feel a need to explain myself to anyone who sees them.
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      • #23
        If you think it would look nicer, by all means go for it! As long as you know and trust your horse, that is.

        I won a photoshoot of Chip the summer after I bought him and the woman desperately tried to get me to get on him without a helmet. At that point, he was a 5 year old ottb and I'd only had him for 6ish months. I told her absolutely not.

        Now, 4 years later, I wouldn't hesitate to hop up on him bareback/bridless/helmetless for a few photos. Because I know him and trust him enough that I think the chances of something happening are slim.
        My CANTER cutie Chip and IHSA shows!
        http://www.youtube.com/kheit86

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        • #24
          Helmet wearing is highly situational, and embedded in the "cultural context" of various disciplines. "English," in particular over fences, likely yes. Western, almost everywhere, mostly no.

          I don't see it as a "moral" issue at all; if you want to pose for pictures on your presumably well-known and trustworthy horse, in a familiar place, who the heck is going to judge you? Anybody who would has their helmeted head you-know-where . . .

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          • #25
            I sat on my horse double bareback with my fiance for my engagement pictures. We gave him 1 cc of ace beforehand and only stayed on for a minute in case he started to get sore with the extra weight. We also didn't walk around - we just stood posed. It was awesome and he was too drugged to care about misbehaving.

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            • #26
              Swamp yankee, I totally agree!
              When I was east,doing the pony club thing I wore a helmet. When I was riding out west, on ranches and so forth, never. I have never, ever seen a wrangler wearing a helmet-not saying they don't, but I never saw it.I have worked cattled, run barrels, trail ridden, raced (!!), jumped stumps and so forth, with no helmet.

              I wear one (mostly) now. I like it. It's comfortable. But I am not any kind of nazi about it, forget it at times too! I have seen very, very few out here wear helmets.

              There really IMO is no good argument for not wearing one, other than culture, I guess. I knw a lot about brain buckets and how fragile they are!! But I would not think twice about popping on any of my guys for a photo shoot without one. I would not pause for a single second over what anyone else thinks! I do agree with 7, that I wouldn't lecture people on helmets but I hardly do that anyway!

              Took me many many years to wear a helmet skiing too! But in the spring,on lovely warm, bluebird days, when Im in my sportsbra skiing, I don't always...should, for sure, but old habits die hard. My husband doesn't wear his motorcycle helmet either, and I do wear one there (he thinks I'm crazy, in the truck vs motorcycle scenario, I guess he sees it like the seat belts in an airplane). Funny, I took mine OFF (and stood beside the bike) for a photo!!

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              • #27
                When we were growing up in an English lesson barn, we'd put a "huntcap" (with the little elastic string!) on just to jump. If you went hunting, you were expected to wear a bowler, which we did, right up through the 80's. I've taken some crushers wearing one, and it not only stayed on my head, my chimes have been rung far worse in an ASTM ice-bucket than ever happened in that bowler--including a bowler-clad rotational fall onto a hard gravel road! That said . . .

                I used to wear a straw Panama for sidesaddle, since it's rare to come off one of those things. On one afternoon, the side-saddle was the only one at the barn, and I was just going to hop on and hack my horse down the road to turn him out. Well, some little voice made me put on the hardhat. Damned if an old lady walking a little white dog didn't jump out of the bushes, causing my horse to fire off one of those 180-degree spook-spins. The spring-bar on my Mayhew let go, and I found myself headed for the road over the right rear at about 300 mph! Tucked and rolled, stood up without a scratch, but I turned in that helmet on a new one the next day . . . and without it, I have no doubt whatsoever I'd still be drooling in permafrost rehab somewhere.

                'Tis a matter of personal, situational judgement--just like turning on the headlights when you get on the turnpike. But it's nobody's business but your own . . . or at least it wasn't, until the Pony Club Mommies and the AHSA lawyers decided to save us from ourselves. Interesting, isn't it, that the bronc and bull riders in the rodeo, absolutely guaranteed to come off hard and nasty, don't wear helmets? Apparently, the laws of insurance or physics don't apply to THEM??

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Sithly View Post
                  Meh. I'm generally a helmet nazi, but even I will make exceptions occasionally. I once did a photoshoot ... bareback, bridleless, in a bikini, on the beach, cantering through the water with some friends.

                  I figured it was a once-in-a-lifetime thing, since I will never look that good in a bikini again.
                  Sounds like a good way to get some color in yer cheeks!

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                  • #29
                    I'm a helmet nazi too, but I do get on in the lake without mine. My rule is that we dismount before leaving the water, but I can't see swimming in a helmet.

                    I wouldn't do it for pictures now, but I might have when I was young and more photogenic.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by SwampYankee View Post
                      When we were growing up in an English lesson barn, we'd put a "huntcap" (with the little elastic string!) on just to jump.
                      Yes. It was not a "helmet"!! Mine was a nice velvet-like (velveteen?) huntcap with an elastic chin strap! And yes, wore just to jump!

                      Funny, at pony club camp I can't remember if we wore them on the flat or not! For sure on CC or stadium but..just can't remember.

                      The bronc/bull riders are amazing to watch! A lot don't wear helmets at all but the little mutton busters do! They are soooooo cute!

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by SwampYankee View Post
                        On one afternoon, the side-saddle was the only one at the barn, and I was just going to hop on and hack my horse down the road to turn him out.
                        And all I got out of it was... "she's gonna have to carry that heavy bugger back to the barn"

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                        • #32
                          (Helmet wearer here).

                          When I was about 14, I hopped on my OTTB bareback/bridleless/helmetless, in street clothes, for a few pictures in the paddock.

                          Result: Pictures of me sitting on my horse looking incredibly anxious and uncomfortable with a decidedly forced smile!

                          I would do it now, with my current guy, for a few pics on a calm day in a familiar location. I don't think I would be as nervous about it... but twice in the past 've found myself mounted on a horse without my helmet (forgot because I was wearing a ballcap or touque) and I was totally OMG I have to GET OFF RIGHT NOW!! lol.
                          Jigga:
                          Why must you chastise my brilliant idea with facts and logic? **picks up toys (and wine) and goes home**

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                          • #33
                            If I thought really hard and all at once about all the near-misses I've had; I'd probably stay permanently under my bed, sucking my thumb with my eyes squinched shut!

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                            • #34
                              I did it.....and I always wear a helmet. My daughter wears one and anyone who rides here has to as well. I don't preach to people online but I do wish they would value their brains more.
                              I am extre3mely happy I did this set of pictures. I lost this horse unexpectedly only a few months later. I treasure the pic we took that day.

                              http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...dMurphy2-2.jpg

                              I have shared these before.....but I always love posting them. This horse was very special. I cut myself out of the pics below but I am actually standing right behind my daughter.

                              http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...y/DSC_0194.jpg

                              http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...y/DSC_0195.jpg

                              http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...y/DSC_0182.jpg
                              RIP Spider Murphy 4/20/02 - 10/31/10

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                              • #35
                                I don't think it would make you a hypocrite. I have my portrait clients do bareback photos on their horses if they are comfortable. Though most are in the camp of every ride, every time, none have had a problem doing the photos without the helmet. I do think the photos look nicer without a helmet obscuring part of your face, but that is just my opinion!

                                We do the mounted photos towards the end of the shoot when we know the horse is used to the situation and surroundings. I usually have another helper on the ground who can grab the horse if needed, but luckily I haven't had any problems so far!

                                Here are some examples:
                                portrait
                                portrait 2
                                artsy portrait
                                one more

                                If you are uncomfortable mounted without a helmet, you can still get great portraits with your horse - sometimes I actually prefer these as you can capture more of a connection between horse and human- like:
                                this
                                or this
                                or this
                                or this
                                It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.

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