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My Horse has EPM & is Spiraling Downward - UPDATE Post 63 (Tube is Out, Can't Eat)

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  • #41
    Jingles from S. Calif.!!!

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    • #42
      Sending prayers and jingles to you and your boy.

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      • #43
        sending positive vibes from NorCAl! and hugs to you OP.

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        • #44
          I am so sorry. Hoping for a speedy recovery for your guy.
          Rest in peace Claudius, we will miss you.

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            #45
            Firstly, thank you everyone for your jingles! It really means a lot to all of us. And everyone's advice has helped so much... it gives us some peace of mind through this entire process.

            Originally posted by relocatedTXjumpr View Post
            What you describe above was exactly my situation...horse was just NQR for a while...swapping behind, bucking after jumps, refusing to go any direction other than left...vet missdiagnosed and did hock injections, which...in the end is what magnified the EPM symptoms and pushed it so far so fast we were unable to control it with marquis. Looking back I should have gotten a vet involved sooner, I just figured at his age he was done playing show pony. I also should have been more avid that the vet do a full work up rather than just having him say he needed injections.
            Interesting... my horse has had hock injections while he was still show pony. Once every six months or so.

            Originally posted by JackieBlue View Post
            Are you referring to the decoquinoate and levamisole cocktail that Dr. Ellison recommends? Levamisole will perk any horse up from the first dose.

            OP, I'm SO sorry that you and your horse are going through this. My DWB gelding was diagnosed with EPM at the end of May and just finished 2 courses of Marquis + DMSO. There was a paper presented at the 2011 AAEP meeting that showed a dramatic increase in efficacy of ponazuril/toltrazuril when administered with oral DMSO. I can post a link if you'd like. Anyway, my boy had very scary neuro signs, was terribly ataxic, weak, lost 100 pounds or so of mostly muscle in no time.....and tonight, when he came galloping up to me at meds time (still treating for Lyme - it's common for these 2 pathogens to cohabitate.) he did 2 complete, perfect flying chaanges, one in each direction. Last night he stood up on his hind legs like a prairie dog to get a better look at the neighboring cows. He stayed vertical for at least a solid 30 seconds, but maybe even a whole minute. Strength, balance aand coordination definitely coming back. I wish the same sort of recovery for your boy and I'll be thinking of the two of you daily.
            Have you tested for Lyme? My guy started to improve some on Marquis + DMSO, but then seemed to hit a plateau and had some really odd symptoms, so tested for Lyme and he was positive. After exactly 7 days on oral doxy, he was his old self mentally, eating and drinking normally and as happy as ever. The neuro stuff hasn't resolved that quickly, but his progress has been steady since adding the doxy and he's close enough to 100% that if you didn't know him well, you'd never think he wasn't quite right. A Lyme test might prove helpful if your vet thinks it's a wise idea.
            Feel free to pm me if you have any questions or just want to commiserate. {{hugs}}
            Thank you for the information and I'll discuss with my vet about what you said. I am happy to hear your boy turned around from some serious neuro issues!

            We have not tested for Lyme from as far as I know. We did test for West Nile but we haven't gotten the result backs.

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              #46
              UPDATE::

              Today is treatment day 9. Since being in the equine hospital he really hasn't improved much. Yesterday when I visited him he still was leaning heavily to one side and very unsteady on his feet. He walked around a some in his stall yet it was a production and I still was afraid he'd fall. Since being there he hasn't been able to eat nor drink. They have him on a feeding tube and IV. As of today he still is unable to eat/drink. He will chew it yet just doesn't have the mechanism to swallow. Basically he isn't getting worse but he isn't getting really any better.

              He did perk up while I was there and (slowly) followed me around the stall. He seemed very determined and he appreciated the massage I gave him. He's in there still... fighting his own body.

              I won't be able to visit him today due to the torrential rain we have gotten here in South Texas. Flooding is pretty bad everywhere and my car is too low to the ground!

              Hopefully tomorrow it won't rain as much and I can go see him.

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              • #47
                Sounds like he wants to keep trying in spite of everything ... keeping him (and you) in my thoughts & prayers and jingling like crazy for him to get better !

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                • #48
                  Thinking of you....hope your weather clears.

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                  • #49
                    Prayers for both of you.

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                    • #50
                      Thoughts and Prayers and ((hugs)) and Jingles & AO ~

                      Thoughts and prayers & ((HUGS)) and Jingles & AO for your horse and you during this struggle ~
                      Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "

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                      • #51
                        Prayers for him and you.
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                        • #52
                          More prayers and jingles! Hope you can visit tomorrow.

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                          • #53
                            Jiingles, for both the pony and the flooding!

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                            • #54
                              Hang in there honey....

                              Prayers & jingles coming your way from PA!!
                              "A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority." Rick Warren

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                              • #55
                                Jingling in Wisconsin!
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                                I kill threads dead!

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                                • #56
                                  Jingles, hugs, and prayers!!!

                                  I lost my beloved TB mare to what we believe was EPM.
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                                    #57
                                    Everyone cross their fingers! Tomorrow we're taking him off the feeding tube to see if he will eat and drink on his own.

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                                    • #58
                                      More mega jingles!!
                                      where am I, what day is it, am I still having a good time?

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                                      • #59
                                        Jingles jingles jingles. It kills us to see any horse suffering so...lots of healthy horse wishes from the big COTH community and those angels on your shoulders. Don't forget to breathe.

                                        Fingers crossed for day ten.

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                                        • #60
                                          More jingles coming your way!
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