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    Originally posted by RNB View Post
    *RNB overnights HL a special tin foil hat and shades to help protect her from all the loonies she seems to attract.*


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    Thanks RNB.. I appreciate it

    I think I am going to take the Bugs Bunny approach for going out to the barn.. you know when he hides under a rock.. then tiptoes the rock forward.. then goes down... then tiptoes some more... that will be my camoflage.. Think anyone would find it funny a rock with legs riding my horse.... heck the equitation for the rock might be an improvement for me.

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    • Originally posted by RNB View Post
      *RNB overnights HL a special tin foil hat and shades to help protect her from all the loonies she seems to attract.*


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      That looks kind of like a Cone of Silence. Which you should put over A&B so you can say, "lalalalala, I can't hear you!

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      • Been lurking. Might I suggest call blocking? Even better than caller ID -- the phone will never ring on your end!!

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          Originally posted by Beasmom View Post
          Been lurking. Might I suggest call blocking? Even better than caller ID -- the phone will never ring on your end!!
          That would work for the phone but then she would just stalk me at my daughters lessons. Have I mentioned that her kids are both really great really nice polite kids. I really feel for them.
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          • Originally posted by JanM View Post
            H-L--if someone called me at 11 p.m. the only thing they would get is "Who Died?",
            If someone called me at 11pm and someone hadn't died, someone WOULD die!!!!

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            • What Sue from Auckland said!

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              • I guess I;m just not a friendly person...

                I would sit A and B down together and tell them that in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM that you are getting involved in this.

                There is nothing more to say after that.
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                • H-L--the time for nice or polite or being rational is over. A & B will never leave you alone until you get nasty with them. If either parent bothers you at your child's lesson simply tell them you are busy and to get lost--and if they persist tell them louder and louder until they go away. People who are total jerks will eventually get the point if you are totally ruthless about it. Life is too short to let some bully ruin your enjoyment of your barn time--and if they don't stop bothering you just tell us your location and we'll all just plan a road trip.
                  You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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                  • Originally posted by JanM View Post
                    H-L--the time for nice or polite or being rational is over. A & B will never leave you alone until you get nasty with them. If either parent bothers you at your child's lesson simply tell them you are busy and to get lost--and if they persist tell them louder and louder until they go away. People who are total jerks will eventually get the point if you are totally ruthless about it.

                    Life is too short to let some bully ruin your enjoyment of your barn time--and if they don't stop bothering you just tell us your location and we'll all just plan a road trip.
                    Heck yeah, we're all fired up for a trip to Blind Alter's, and she is no where to be found. And if Horse-Loverz is in Kentucky, we can all go there instead while we're waiting for the crayola trainer to surface.
                    And Kentucky is not too far from Supernatural in WVA.

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                    • From HL's post....

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                      OH MY....I think I need a new computer. I should know better by now than to have food or drink while on this board!
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                      • These people are nutjobs!

                        It just never ceases to amaze me what kind of whacked out logic people come up with.

                        And calling at 11pm? I too would answer the phone thinking it was emergent regardless of who was calling. ESPECIALLY if it was someone from the barn. As soon as I found out it was more of THIS crap I likely would've said, "Lady, do you realize what time it is? And further, do you realize that I'm not an attorney and I'm trying to stay the heck out of this mess you've gotten yourself into? I don't want ANY PART OF IT. I don't want to discuss it, I don't want to know about your shady plans, I don't want to participate. At all. So STOP calling me and talking to me about it. Capiche?"
                        A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

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                          OMG... AGAIN!!! I feel like I am going to be saying that a lot lately...

                          Well the GOOD news is Parent A finally did actually TALK to trainer.... and actually stated she is already regretting agreeing to go in halfsies with this guy ( welll duhhhhhh) There still is no contract written up and she still doesn't have a bill of sale for her half of the pony...

                          Now of course where there is good news there is also BAD news....

                          Trainer told Parent B of 6yo to not put kid on pony until trainer could supervise ride . The main reason for this is the Pony still has no brakes and a double wire twisted snaffle didn't even faze him at all.

                          Well what does Parent B do???? Well he did what any sane parent would do.... wait until trainer was gone..... put wee kid on runaway pony... put it on the lounge line and make it canter....

                          Trainer found out when she arrived later when the wee kid told on dad...Wee kid says... Miss trainer I did barrels today!!. Trainer thought maybe dad took kid to the fair and notices dad is very uncomfortable.. Wee kid pipes up.. No I did barrels on MY pony!!! Trainer took a deep breath and looked at dad... who was looking sheepish... He said he started kid on the lounge...pony got faster... and faster.. and faster.. so he made the circle smaller... and smaller and smaller reeling runaway pony in. But he said proudly "Well she stayed on!!"

                          Trainer took another deep breath.. ( She's a saint I tell you a SAINT!!) and asked him if he forgot about the fact that kid was NOT to ride pony until trainer was there to supervise... Parent B states that "Well I just can't tell her NO.. you don't have to live with her" Trainer says "Well I can tell her no.. and proceeds to tell child she cannot ride pony without her present"

                          Another boarder came up to us today (one who doesn't know the situation) and said " That guy with the little kid and new pony is an idiot!!) Trainer and I looked at each other and both asked "Why do you say that??" She said that he was trying to tack up pony and didn't even know how to put the bridle on the pony.. she had to show him how.. and that she didn't think that pony was safe for that kid.

                          Trainer and I are now convinced that either A: He hates the kid.. or B: he has a massive life insurance policy on the kid...


                          Oh and he wants wee kid to show bolting pony at the fall classic horse show in 3 weeks as well at the Ky Horse Park....
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                          • Wow.

                            To be frank, were I the trainer, I'd likely be asking father to leave since he is now creating a tremendous liability for her.

                            If the kid gets hurt, won't matter if Dad doesn't want to sue. The insurance companies will have a field day with this.
                            A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

                            Might be a reason, never an excuse...

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                            • Originally posted by horse-loverz View Post
                              Oh and he wants wee kid to show bolting pony at the fall classic horse show in 3 weeks as well at the Ky Horse Park....
                              well of course. why not at this point?

                              We are going to want full details though!
                              "I'm not crazy...my mother had me tested"

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                                I almost didn't post that update because I wasn't sure if anyone else wanted to watch/hear about the trainwreck unfolding. But at the same time I am so agasted I had to get it out and my DH just doesn't quite get it.
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                                • Trainwrecks are fun as long as you aren't in the middle of them.

                                  I just feel badly for the trainer and the kids. I feel like the kids are ultimately the ones who are going to get hurt (physically or otherwise) and trainer is going to end up in the middle of a lawsuit.
                                  A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

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                                  • A & B deserve each other. The kids, not so much. Maybe they can be rehomed?
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                                    • Yowzers! Parent B is even nuttier than Parent A!

                                      I have to worry about trainer at this point. If Parent B's child is hurt by pony, he might be the type to sue since it was on her property. Is it her property? Either way, you know how some people are about wanting someone else to take the blame for their own bad decisions.

                                      I think trainer should consider getting a tape recorder out and with it in full view say, "I want it on tape that you are not to put your child on that pony unless I, trainer, am present as pony is dangerous and could hurt her."

                                      Or better yet, "I want it on tape that you have disregarded my previous advice not to have your child on dangerous pony so you and your pony must leave. Child is not to ride pony on these premises at all!"

                                      Best of luck to you all. Hope the little girl doesn't get hurt. Poor thing. I can't imagine what dad is thinking.

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                                      • Originally posted by Giddy-up View Post

                                        We are going to want full details though!
                                        Details, schmetails. One word:

                                        YouTube!!!

                                        Seriously, though, trainer should show them the door, IMO. Lawsuit waiting to happen, and not waiting patiently, I'll bet. Particularly as the bad dad has already proven he'll do exactly the opposite of what the trainer says the moment her back is turned.

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                                        • Originally posted by horse-loverz View Post
                                          I think I am going to take the Bugs Bunny approach for going out to the barn.. you know when he hides under a rock.. then tiptoes the rock forward.. then goes down... then tiptoes some more... that will be my camoflage.. Think anyone would find it funny a rock with legs riding my horse.... heck the equitation for the rock might be an improvement for me.
                                          I've just managed to read this whole thread, and I appreciate you sharing the details, because like every good trainwreck it's frightening and fascinating to read. But if Parent A is agressive enough to make you dread going out to the barn to see your own horse -- it's time to be really blunt and freeze her out of your atmosphere. Seriously. I know you say you're keeping out of it, but I think you're being too nice for her to realize that you don't want to have anything to do with her. Don't let her overwhelm your happy horse world. You don't have to be confrontational -- just get caller ID and cease to aknowledge her existance except peripherally. PM me if you want tips on how to do it -- I'm the Queen of freeze .

                                          I feel so sorry for the 6 year old. Poor little kid. Jingles for your trainer to have the patience to rise above and figure out a way to keep her safe.
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