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The I HATE TEENAGERS THESE DAYS thread

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  • #21
    I have no problem telling teens to get off their phone, and give them ALL pushups if I catch one texting. Including me (for the pushups).

    That said, they aren't all bad. ;-)

    ETA if a barn had a no phone rule, I wouldn't board there. My phone is also my camera, and I'm often there alone. A phone in my car won't help me in an emergency. Just sayin, YMMV.
    COTH's official mini-donk enabler

    "I am all for reaching out, but in some situations it needs to be done with a rolled up news paper." Alagirl

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    • #22
      Yeah, if I had to leave my phone in the car at a barn, I'd stay away. Most of the time when I get dropped off at the barn, I say "I'll text you when I'm ready to be picked up" and I also keep my phone on me when I ride alone. And yes, I'm guilty of texting with no reins/stirrups when I cool off. But never when I'm in an arena with other people, that's disrespectful and dangerous.
      Proud member of the COTH Junior (and Junior-at-Heart!) clique!

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      • #23
        I recently saw a table of young people all dressed up and out for a night on the town. They were all staring at their iPhones. Not one was talking to another at the table.
        Weird. Why did they even bother getting dressed and going out?

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        • #24
          So sad that your teens are no fun. Ours are great ! My own one (I don't own her, but she rides a lot of ponies for me) is just lovely. She and her BF text each other at shows - because he's on his way to cheer for her but she's with the team, getting on with looking after the ponies I text at shows too. I text her dad to find out when he's arriving, and if I can find him quick enough so he doesn't miss his daughter's first XC. Our trainer texts us to tell us the Novice course walk has been brought forward 15 minutes.... where we need to get everyone together for dinner ...

          One of my other great teens texts me to see if this is a good time to ask me a calculus question.

          I'm sorry your teens don't know how to behave, but honestly, ours are super-fun, great people, who really understand and embrace technology to help them in their real lives. I think they use their new connectivity to achieve more than any generation before them.

          I've lived a lot of places, and i have to say, young US teens, particularly the eventery ones, are some of the nicest people I've ever met.

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          • #25
            One nice thing growing up at the barn, we seemed to take our cues about manners, dealing with adults and how we behaved with our horses from the adults at the barn. They had the good horses, would help us with our riding and even sponsored us for the shows.

            Cellphones separates the kids from the adults, no matter where they are, their little social group is their link to the world of fellow kids with noses stuck in their phones, vacuous little lives tweeting and facebooking every minimal and nothing facet of their lives. I expect a person to converse and at least acknowledge when I'm present....these same self-centred brats can enjoy themselves in their little cocoon, I'm sure never doing something for these phone addicts. Too often it seems, just because their pimple-faced boyfriend wanna' be hangs on their every word (just in case it gets him in her pants) that their wisdom should be considered as wonderful by everyone else. Pssst, Guess what darlins', you're just not that bright or interesting...and you're not a good rider.
            "Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc"

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            • #26
              I'm guessing my post about the barn I work at started the "if the barn rules were no cell phones allowed I'D never board there" comments, so again please allow me to clarify:

              Originally posted by GaitedGloryRider View Post
              It's not "No cell phones in the barn at all in the barn" where I work, it's "No cell phone usage in the barn". Meaning, if you've got to take a call, make a call, send a text/email, you go outside of the barn and do it. They are very safety-minded people and don't like people meandering about engrossed in their electronics not paying attention to where they are in relation to the horses. The barn is pretty busy most days, throw in a half-dozen kids with cell phones plus their (for the most part non-horsey parents) and yep, someone could end up accidentally getting hurt. They are free to text and talk and email to their heart's delight, they just have to do it outside the barn. They are also free to have their devices on them inside the barn but for anything more than a quick glance down to check it, they want it done away from the action.
              Of course if anyone has an issue with it they are free to take lessons or board elsewhere but really, I've heard no gripes from anyone there about the rule. To the owners of the barn it's a matter of safety combined with common courtesy to the other people using the cross-ties, leading horses in an out and otherwise navigating the walkways.

              They'd never confiscate a parent's phone but I have seen them ask students to hand over their phones a few times. Also not an unreasonable request I think especially when it's a kid stopping their horse, whipping out their cell phone to text while mounted during a group lesson (yup, seen that happen twice!)

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              • #27
                I teach college. I have a lot of "non-traditional" students (meaning older than normal college age, or kids who didn't come straight into college) & I love it.

                I taught one class last semester that was full of teenies. Despite repeated reminders of cell phone policies, etc, a ot of them were constantly texting/checking facebook/ etc. I am not sure they even bother to drag carcass to class if they are going to do this, which I stated, but it has no effect.

                I could ask them to leave, or call on them individually to stop, but I adopted a different strategy that seemed to work:

                when someone was texting, I would stop lecturing, climb on the front table & lie down. The first time I did it, I stated that I was doing something so they would have something to text about & I would continue the lecture when they were done.

                I remain there humming to myself until everyone has put away their phones. I actually had to do it twice.

                It is ridiculous, I agree, but not all teens are not all like that. AND, I would add that ppl my age aren't much better (just turned 40). God forbid you actually notice the world around you!!

                You go to a party to spend the entire time texting? I don't get it.

                >I am at a party but I am too cool to talk to anyone here. I have more important things to talk about with more important people that aren't here. Aren't I popular?

                I imagine they are texting to someone who is doing the same thing somewhere else

                > I am thinking about corn. I like corn.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Hippolyta View Post

                  I taught one class last semester that was full of teenies. Despite repeated reminders of cell phone policies, etc, a ot of them were constantly texting/checking facebook/ etc. I am not sure they even bother to drag carcass to class if they are going to do this, which I stated, but it has no effect.

                  I could ask them to leave, or call on them individually to stop, but I adopted a different strategy that seemed to work:

                  when someone was texting, I would stop lecturing, climb on the front table & lie down. The first time I did it, I stated that I was doing something so they would have something to text about & I would continue the lecture when they were done.

                  I remain there humming to myself until everyone has put away their phones. I actually had to do it twice.

                  LOL! I teach college too, but if I did that, they'd all start using their phones on purpose!
                  I call on them individually. It usually embarrasses them, and they stop doing it. I've noticed that most of them are SO good at multi-tasking tho. I can see they're texting, so I call on them to answer, and they answer! lol

                  I think this trend is getting worse. I think in the future, I will ask whomever I catch texting to give me his/her phone till the end of class. Just like 5 yo with their toys. *sigh*

                  And yes, adults can be just as bad.

                  I love places that have no internet access. As long as there is a land line for emergencies. It's very funny to watch my daughters when the power is down at our house. They don't know what to do! I love it - we play cards, read, play board games, light candles at night...what a relief it is.
                  Ottbs - The finish line is only the beginning!

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                  • #29
                    That's also why God invented cell phone jammers.
                    "Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc"

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                    • #30
                      I'm not a teen, but I was a teen with a cell phone, once (now I'm just 23 with a cell phone).

                      But, my mother taught me how to have a conversation and give someone they full respect they deserve. If I am having an important conversation, I don't use my phone. If I need to use my phone to discuss plans with someone, I say "Sorry, this is really important, I'll be done in a moment."

                      I keep my phone in the tackroom, and I might check it between horses. No one has commented on my cell phone usage here.

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by Trakehner View Post
                        That's also why God invented cell phone jammers.
                        She did? Neato--
                        "One person's cowboy is another person's blooming idiot" -- katarine

                        Spay and neuter. Please.

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                        • #32
                          Originally posted by sophie View Post
                          And yes, adults can be just as bad.
                          For sure; been in a faculty meeting recently?
                          "One person's cowboy is another person's blooming idiot" -- katarine

                          Spay and neuter. Please.

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                          • #33
                            I agree that smartphones have created a very distracted society. There is a reason states want to ban cell phones on the road! Its made me almost afraid to drive at times people have gotten so bad. I actually think in that aspect, the teens are better since they've been raised in this multi tasking society where they can somewhat pay attention to different things. Its the adults that really suck at it.

                            As for the barn, luckily I ride with a bunch of well grounded teens who only whip out their cell phones when they're no longer dealing with the horses. Also, for them the barn is still a place to get face to face socialization with their buddies. None of them treat it like its just a stop between the mall and meeting their friends/boyfriends afterwards. Most spend their whole day there during the summer.

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                            • #34
                              The enthusiasm of youth will always be overcome by the treachery of old age
                              The Elephant in the room

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                              • #35
                                I hated teenagers when I was a teenager. I still hate them now.

                                Originally posted by Hippolyta View Post
                                I teach college. I have a lot of "non-traditional" students (meaning older than normal college age, or kids who didn't come straight into college) & I love it.

                                I taught one class last semester that was full of teenies. Despite repeated reminders of cell phone policies, etc, a ot of them were constantly texting/checking facebook/ etc. I am not sure they even bother to drag carcass to class if they are going to do this, which I stated, but it has no effect.

                                I could ask them to leave, or call on them individually to stop, but I adopted a different strategy that seemed to work:
                                My latest graduate course was taught by a professor who had a very strict "Don't Mess With It" electronics policy.

                                If he saw you messing around on your phone (laptops weren't allowed, period), he'd keep track of it with a list. Come the end of the quarter, you'd do a paper evaluation on him and at the very bottom own up to how many times you were on you cell phone during class time.

                                If your number was greater or equal than his, that's how many % points your final grade was deduced by. If it was less than his, he'd multiply his number by 2 and that's the % points your final grade was reduced by.

                                It stinks that he had to go that extreme to make sure people paid attention, but oh well.
                                Lucy (Precious Star) - 1994 TB mare; happily reunited with her colt Touch the Stars

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                                • #36
                                  Oooh Schune, you're giving me ideas, hehehe. I just might put that in my syllabus next semester....
                                  Ottbs - The finish line is only the beginning!

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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by winfieldfarm View Post
                                    And the worst is how they just dont have the general concept of putting in long arduous hours of hard work to reach goals. Technology has made life so instantaneous for these teens that they can't think past the end of their fast typing fingers to see the long range picture.
                                    So do they always lose at shows then?

                                    Or are you and other barn kids doing their work for them? If the latter, that's an easy fix, isn't it?

                                    Fully understand the no cell phone usage rule. Sure, carry them on your person, but put up your horse and go outside the barn to read or write texts or talk. You'll be amazed how many texts they can skip if their little feet have to walk a couple yards every time.

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                                    • #38
                                      Originally posted by suzier444 View Post
                                      I don't know what I'd do if my barn had a "cell phones in the car" policy. I am not a teenager and don't use my phone for fun, but my job requires that I be reachable 100% of the time. I sleep next to my phone. Really the only exception is flying or driving, and if I were driving for longer than an hour, I'd have to pull over to refuel and check the blackberry at some point. I certainly can't leave it in the car for three hours while I'm at the barn. I don't do stupid or unsafe stuff and I excuse myself if I need to make a call, but I need to be able to see if I get an urgent email so I can put my horse up and go attend to it.
                                      Really? No offence but I find it hard to believe you have to be reachable every single hr of every single day! No personnal time ever..........I feel sorry for you! I don't even think dr's have to be 24/7 365days/yr!!
                                      Go Ahead: This is a dare, not permission. Don't Do It!

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                                      • #39
                                        I agree that seeing anyone constant hovering over a phone can be annoying. But I try to simply ignore it.

                                        If these are teens who aren't pulling their weight or getting their chores done, that should be addressed by the trainer or manager, whoever's in charge.

                                        And no one should be using their phone while mounted. That level of distraction is just stupid, and unsafe.

                                        If anyone, adult or teen, starts looking at their phone while I'm talking to them, I just stop. I tell them to let me know when they're available to continue our conversation, and then I walk away. I've done it to my husband plenty of times!

                                        Most of the teens at my barn have plenty of chores to keep them busy. But they also end up with a chunk of time at the end of the day when they're waiting for their ride, and if they want to spend it texting...well, I think it's lame, but I don't care.

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                                        • #40
                                          http://weknowmemes.com/2012/07/whats...ie-apocalypse/

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