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  • #81
    WHOA!
    And I thought I heard/read it all when it came to PP?
    Guess not.

    If I had $170 grand I would most definitely NOT be sending myself to some cult school, thank you very much! Even if I could get financial aid/scholarships. No, just no.

    Just by reading the reviews on the equipment of PP's, you can tell some people are wacky. The "savvy string"? So it might not be a conventional lead rope but the purpose is still the same...as well as every other thing you could fix on a ranch easily with a piece of baling twine. And one person takes theirs with them to the grocery store? And has USED it at the grocery store? I imagine horse people were not the only ones giving them strange looks.

    And the carrot stick... my crop can do the same thing as your little "carrot stick". I'm not going to pay $50 for something I can get for $5 at the farm store and have the same effect.

    I'm not sure how PP is a marketing genius... or how his stuff sells. I'm just sad for any horse person who uses these methods and follows PP. And would willingly shell out $170k to attend some crazy school.

    Emily
    Originally posted by katarine
    I don't want your prayers, tiny cow.
    Originally posted by Pat9
    When it's time for a horse to go to a new person, that person will appear. It's pony magic.

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    • #82
      Graureiter,

      Took the words right out of my mouth. Wow.
      Why do those who feel a tyrant was elected as President, seek to disarm the population?

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      • #83
        Originally posted by alibi_18 View Post
        So what are inapropriate sexual behaviors PPs followers should avoid doing?!
        Canoeing
        Why do those who feel a tyrant was elected as President, seek to disarm the population?

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        • #84
          Originally posted by 7HL View Post
          Guess some here are to naive or ignorant to understand what inapropriate means.
          It means many different hings to different people.
          There are a lot of people who find gay guy lovemaking highly inappropriate to the point they want to make it illegal and punishable....

          Do I give a horse trainer (and I use the term loosely) this much discretion?

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Emily&Jake View Post
            The "savvy string"? So it might not be a conventional lead rope but the purpose is still the same...as well as every other thing you could fix on a ranch easily with a piece of baling twine. And one person takes theirs with them to the grocery store? And has USED it at the grocery store? I imagine horse people were not the only ones giving them strange looks.

            Emily
            But..But.. it's POLYESTER, not that terrible nylon or cotton!

            The "rule" that approval of your sexual practices is required in this HORSE TRAINING program is beyond bizarre.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by trubandloki View Post
              Do you suppose the no gossip thing includes starting say a blog about how great your experience there is? Or is saying all great things OK, you are just not allowed to complain about anything?
              No - they are abridging your First Amendment rights.
              ... _. ._ .._. .._

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                #87
                Yeah, the sexual thing threw me too! I have never seen that mentioned in any equine training or course requirements! And how do they monitor that?! If you are a PP certified employee/trainer, can you not also throw Passion Parties? As someone else mentioned, be gay? Or are they afraid that someone is going to pull a Kenneth Pinyan on them and draw negative attention?
                As far as stallions go, didn't PP used to travel with and use a stallion at Expos, etc?? I seem to remember him doing that. Wasn't it a black horse? Am I remembering this wrong? If not, then does that mean that he can use a stallion in mixed company at public events, but his certified peeps cannot make that judgement call?
                I know that some events don't allow stallions, but to threaten to drop someone's 'certification' level over it seems a tad extreme.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Alagirl View Post
                  It means many different hings to different people.
                  There are a lot of people who find gay guy lovemaking highly inappropriate to the point they want to make it illegal and punishable....

                  People are over thinking this or just making smart a$$ comments to play the game. Being LGBT would not be a a problem.

                  Do I give a horse trainer (and I use the term loosely) this much discretion?

                  Believe it is fairly simple to include criminal acts and to include sexual harassement / discrimination. It's amusing to see adults become childish when the word sex is mentioned. Some need to grow up.

                  My employer has a Code of Conduct which I must take updated training on every year. It is 33 pages. It includes I can't run for public office. Also includes I would not be allowed to carry a gun on Company property at any time, even if licensed. There are many more rules that are written in various documents, including my employment contract.


                  Companies have rules covering many subjects and concerns, from Avon to Walmart.

                  If people don't like the rules and they are published for Parelli University, then don't go. Becoming a Certified trainer you sign a contract with Parelli. It is not just a training class or clinic.



                  There are rules on this forum....
                  The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by 7HL View Post
                    My employer has a Code of Conduct which I must take updated training on every year. It is 33 pages. It includes I can't run for public office. Also includes I would not be allowed to carry a gun on Company property at any time, even if licensed. There are many more rules that are written in various documents, including my employment contract.


                    Companies have rules covering many subjects and concerns, from Avon to Walmart.

                    If people don't like the rules and they are published for Parelli University, then don't go. Becoming a Certified trainer you sign a contract with Parelli. It is not just a training class or clinic.



                    There are rules on this forum....

                    But you are paying the PPs, not the other way around. By your line of reasoning, you were to make the rules for them!

                    And you missed my point:
                    If the act between two men is illegal it is inappropriate. And a great many people have the obsession of wanting to police other people's bedrooms to the point of having laws passed...

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
                      No - they are abridging your First Amendment rights.
                      Not really, they are not the Government. And even Government Organizations can stop you.

                      Companies have rules what you can say, inside and outside as well.

                      Try that first ammendment arguement here. Test whether you can be censored, edited, stopped or even banned.
                      The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

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                      • #91
                        Originally posted by Alagirl View Post
                        But you are paying the PPs, not the other way around. By your line of reasoning, you were to make the rules for them!

                        And you missed my point:
                        If the act between two men is illegal it is inappropriate. And a great many people have the obsession of wanting to police other people's bedrooms to the point of having laws passed...

                        Sad state... Some of the Holier then Thou folks... need to get a life. Parelli has always been very inclusive. I think you are making trouble, when there is none.
                        There are many companies that have training and educational facilities. For some there are costs. The expectation is you will come to work for them. There are financial benefit becoming a certified trainer. You get product at a discount which you can sell. Many people buy through Certified trainers at a cost reduction.

                        http://www.parelliuniversity.com/faqs.html

                        Parelli is only saying that violate the rules and we won't call you a certified trainer.


                        Also many that choose this path already own equipment, books etc. And there are also scholarships which pay for some of, if not all of the expenses.



                        Follow the rules.....

                        John Lyons used to have an active discussion forum. It was supposed to be for the use of his Certified trainers. They actually banned a trainer from the board when they didn't like what she was saying to posters. I believe they even pulled her certification.
                        Last edited by 7HL; Jul. 7, 2012, 12:55 AM.
                        The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

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                        • #92
                          Originally posted by airhorse View Post
                          Good luck making more than $20 per hour once the market is saturated with 1 star wonders. Great return on your investment.
                          True dat....I was thinking the same thing...

                          And another thing, if someone is gonna use Tom Dorrance's book, why not cut to the chase and study Dorrance's way in the first place?? I found his book for $39 and change on his own site. http://tomdorrance.com/order.htm
                          GR24's Musing #19 - Save the tatas!!

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                          • #93
                            http://www.amazon.com/True-Unity-Wil...y+Tom+Dorrance

                            Nope, you too can spend a lot of dough....
                            GR24's Musing #19 - Save the tatas!!

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                            • #94
                              Originally posted by 7HL View Post
                              My employer has a Code of Conduct which I must take updated training on every year. It is 33 pages. It includes I can't run for public office. Also includes I would not be allowed to carry a gun on Company property at any time, even if licensed. There are many more rules that are written in various documents, including my employment contract.


                              Companies have rules covering many subjects and concerns, from Avon to Walmart.

                              If people don't like the rules and they are published for Parelli University, then don't go. Becoming a Certified trainer you sign a contract with Parelli. It is not just a training class or clinic.



                              There are rules on this forum....
                              Yes there are "rules" everywhere..
                              I think that people are very surprised that a "horse training" program that is ridiculously priced, finds it necessary to have such umm.. excessive control.
                              Good luck to your employer when they try to control your sex life.. Unless you are working for a fundamentalist religious organization, or the Catholic church...

                              I can understand why (though do not agree) religious doctrines are imposed upon employees of religious institutions.

                              I am surprised that a "horse training " method could possibly fall in that category.
                              Of course because of the nature of what it is, many (many..) people will want absolutely not to become involved in "Parelli", if not for the questionable "horse training", then for the very odd concern by the "Parelli" machine about their franchise holder's sex lives.
                              Last edited by skydy; Jul. 7, 2012, 01:31 AM.

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                              • #95
                                I read a few pages of the 'Click to look inside' tab and, I'm telling you, it's riveting reading....
                                GR24's Musing #19 - Save the tatas!!

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                                • #96
                                  Originally posted by skydy View Post
                                  Good luck to your employer when they try to control your sex life.. Unless you are working for a fundamentalist religious organization or the Catholic church...

                                  Reading is fundimental...

                                  Where does this come from?

                                  Who is controlling anyones sex life? The Church and Penn State have been looking the other way for some time. And some fundimentalists have been marrying young and have multiple wives.
                                  The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

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                                  • #97
                                    Originally posted by 7HL View Post
                                    Reading is fundimental...

                                    Where does this come from?

                                    Who is controlling anyones sex life? The Church and Penn State have been looking the other way for some time. And some fundimentalists have been marrying young and have multiple wives.
                                    The operative word is TRY.. Read again..

                                    Spelling , as well as reading,is fundamental as well..

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                                    • #98
                                      Originally posted by skydy View Post
                                      The operative word is TRY.. Read again..
                                      And where is the term "SEX LIFE" or "SEX LIVES" posted in the rules?

                                      • Harassment – Sexual / Physical / Verbal
                                      • Inappropriate Sexual Behavior
                                      Interpretation or more appropriately exaggeration.

                                      Others can TRY to turn their opinions into facts, but it just aint so.

                                      Nice TRY!



                                      My employer by the way, allows for domestic partners even where not in State or Federal Law. So do many other companies.
                                      The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

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                                      • #99
                                        Originally posted by 7HL View Post
                                        And where is the term "SEX LIFE" or "SEX LIVES" posted in the rules?



                                        Interpretation or more appropriately exaggeration.

                                        Others can TRY to turn their opinions into facts, but it just aint so.

                                        Nice TRY!



                                        My employer by the way, allows for domestic partners even where not in State or Federal Law. So do many other companies.
                                        Congratulations. You have, very concisely, defeated your own arguement.

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                                        • Originally posted by 7HL View Post
                                          There are many companies that have training and educational facilities. For some there are costs. The expectation is you will come to work for them. There are financial benefit becoming a certified trainer. You get product at a discount which you can sell. Many people buy through Certified trainers at a cost reduction.

                                          http://www.parelliuniversity.com/faqs.html

                                          Parelli is only saying that violate the rules and we won't call you a certified trainer.


                                          Also many that choose this path already own equipment, books etc. And there are also scholarships which pay for some of, if not all of the expenses.



                                          Follow the rules.....

                                          John Lyons used to have an active discussion forum. It was supposed to be for the use of his Certified trainers. They actually banned a trainer from the board when they didn't like what she was saying to posters. I believe they even pulled her certification.

                                          I think you have certainly done it this time, defending PP...

                                          You'd still defend them if they dropped a load of manure in your hallway and charged you to clean it up yourself...

                                          Is ok, aside from this Pepperoni business, you are a decent guy...

                                          You just can't argue religion...

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