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  • #221
    Hey, send me some $$ and I'll give you a certificate that says you know how to ride and train. Or maybe I'll start my own church? Better tax breaks.
    Groom to trainer: "Where's the glamour? You promised me glamour!"

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    • #222
      Originally posted by goneriding24 View Post
      See, I think horsemanship is relatively simple. But, I see people trying to make it hard and it just does not compute with me. It's not rocket science.
      As others have noted (including Ray Hunt), simple doesn't mean easy. My horses all ground tie for grooming and stand still for mounting. I've had probably 25 people ask me how to get their horses to do that. I explain it. I show them with their horses. It's very simple and it's second nature to me (now it is, anyway-- it wasn't when I started). But a lot of them can't do it.

      I believe that's because you have to have the mind set in order to get the skill set. And changing how you think is just too hard for a lot of people.
      __________________________
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      the best day in ten years,
      you are SORELY MISTAKEN, MY LITTLE ANCHOVY."

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      • #223
        Originally posted by goneriding24 View Post
        Does this have to do with not talking on blogs and forums about...(hushed and respectful whispering) "them"??
        Parelli does remind me a lot of Scientology.

        Without the good looking celebrities.
        Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
        Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
        -Rudyard Kipling

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        • #224
          Originally posted by Aven View Post
          I love horses, but have no issue with HUMANE slaughter. Cows and pigs are pretty good critters too. Also tasty. 7 is actually right about rendered anything ending up as animal by products, or horses as 4D meat in unlabled meat in dog food.

          However I do think that the whole parelli thing is very cult like. If you have a good system you don't need to be so paranoid. Sure people have some nasty things to say about the likes of G Morris and other top trainers, but if you can produce the results they speak for themselves and you don't need to try to silence anyone.
          The problem is - as I am sure whatshername (the autistic lady) would tell you - there are no specifically designed "horse" slaughter houses. They are designed for cattle, pigs, sheep, and therefore, the slaughter remains inhumane. I have only DIRECTLY had one of my many horses put down, and it was by the vet. His remains were rendered. I also know what happened to all but one of my previous horses. One died accidentally due to veterinary malpractice (and the vet paid up!). She was rendered. Another suffered a severe injury and died at age 27. Another was humanely put down and buried on the property of the very nice people I had sold him to seven year previously (he was 25 at time of death). My dearly beloved fellow in my profile pick was euthanized in 2010 (lymphoma - he was failing, stopped eating, etc.). Only one TB mare I sold to a breeder got lost in the system and I don't know what happened to her.

          I would not object to slaughter if (a) the horses didn't suffer in transport (they do); and (b) the slaughter was humane. (it isn't and won't be humane in the foreseeable future unless there are MAJOR changes in how HORSE slaughter is handled. That will cost a lot of money - money the people who run the abbatoirs are most likely unwilling to pay.

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          • #225
            Originally posted by 7HL
            So have fun riding that high horse you are on.
            So, now you're an expert on Appaloosas and breed show standards as opposed to hunter/jumper/dressage/eventing standards? ROFLOL

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            • #226
              Originally posted by Sandy M View Post
              So, now you're an expert on Appaloosas and breed show standards as opposed to hunter/jumper/dressage/eventing standards? ROFLOL
              No, where would you get that idea.

              My daughter has a Curly Appaloosa but thats my only association.


              As far as hunter/jumper/dressage/eventing standards, I could care less.
              The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

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              • #227
                Originally posted by Sandy M View Post
                I would not object to slaughter if (a) the horses didn't suffer in transport (they do); and (b) the slaughter was humane. (it isn't and won't be humane in the foreseeable future unless there are MAJOR changes in how HORSE slaughter is handled. That will cost a lot of money - money the people who run the abbatoirs are most likely unwilling to pay.
                Slaughter is what it is.
                The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

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                • #228
                  Originally posted by 7HL
                  I find it bizarre that you use the term "unnatural". Maybe those that have the issues and continually try to say something of substance are the ones with problems. I am not "feaking out". You seem to be getting a little hysterical.
                  Cults are generally considered pretty unnatural. Lots of people take the Parellli stuff with a grain of salt; or take little tidbits (which he's copied from others) and use them in their own training programs.

                  That's not unnatural. That's reasonable.

                  The fawning adoration is cult like; as is the stalking of Parelli threads in order to shill his stuff, or to post in an attempt to deflect attention away from the very bizarre aspect of the Parelli world. Here's a hint to the COTH posters reading this thread - when certain people post they do so in an attempt to steer the subject away from Parelli - and that is what a certain poster is doing on this thread. Again. It becomes less about the bizarre idiocy of Parelli - and more about one poster successfully introducing other subjects - and eventually people start talking about those other subjects. It's a debate tactic used in order to win arguments.

                  In that respect, Parelli is very much like any other cult. With its very own group of acolytes who feel threatened by people who don't believe.

                  So yes, it's pretty unnatural to belong to a cult - and from what I can tell Parelli really jumped the shark.
                  Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                  Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                  -Rudyard Kipling

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                  • #229
                    Well then, one must ask - why do you continue to post on Parelli threads?

                    Never mind - that was a rhetorical question.
                    Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                    Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                    -Rudyard Kipling

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                    • #230
                      Originally posted by 7HL View Post
                      Slaughter is what it is.
                      The end result will be the same, but the steps leading up to it that cause the animals unnecessary pain and suffering can -- and should -- change.

                      I have seen it locally where ribbon chasers drool over a woman that was supposed to have gone to the Olympics. They live by her every word.
                      Has she developed the "Supposed Former Olympian" University and does she market her own "Supposed Former Olympian" branded tack, equipment, instructional DVDs, plush toys and system for classifying horse behavior? And does she charge thousands of dollars for "Supposed Former Olympian" instructor certification and then revoke the certification if they use anyone else's methods?

                      Just curious ...
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                      the best day in ten years,
                      you are SORELY MISTAKEN, MY LITTLE ANCHOVY."

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                      • #231
                        Originally posted by mp View Post
                        The end result will be the same, but the steps leading up to it that cause the animals unnecessary pain and suffering can -- and should -- change.

                        End result is the same dead and butchered. So if there are more slaughter houses , lessens transport time. Example: place them next to an auction houses. I agree make the kill method fast, and quick.


                        Has she developed the "Supposed Former Olympian" University and market her own "Supposed Former Olympian" branded tack, equipment, instructional DVDs, plush toys and system for classifying horse behavior? And does she charge thousands of dollars for "Supposed Former Olympian" instructor certification and then revoke the certification if they use anyone else's methods?

                        Just curious ...

                        Don't know don't care to know. The ribbon chasers just want to win ribbons in local shows.


                        But what some are failing to get is that those that want to go to Parelli University, want to become Parelli trainers. They have been using the program for some time. They are seeking to franchise his training program, to make money


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                        The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

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                        • #232
                          http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/12039681/parelli-people

                          "...halter is woven from Pat Parelli's own mustache hairs..."

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                          • #233
                            Originally posted by JSwan View Post
                            Well then, one must ask - why do you continue to post on Parelli threads?

                            Never mind - that was a rhetorical question.
                            Why do some of the anti Parelli "cult" , continue to post Parelli threads if they hate him so much? Are they bored? As I have said if the board hates seeing Parelli threads, shut them down, don't let anyone post anything about Parelli. Then I wouldn't be able to promote or shill his products that you say I am.
                            The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

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                            • #234
                              Originally posted by 7HL View Post
                              Why do some of the anti Parelli "cult" , continue to post Parelli threads if they hate him so much? Are they bored? As I have said if the board hates seeing Parelli threads, shut them down, don't let anyone post anything about Parelli. Then I wouldn't be able to promote or shill his products that you say I am.
                              They're not an "anti-Parelli" cult.

                              They appear to be horsemen. You know, the real kind. The kind who can tell sh** from shinola. When it comes to Parelli - there is little shinola.

                              Again - more deflecting. Blame the good horseman for pointing out that the Emperor has no clothes - and all you can come up with is the demand to censor them.

                              Which only proves my point - that Parelli is in fact a cult. Freak if anyone dares to discuss Parelli, deflect attention away from the bizarre "training" methods, and then pout because the mods won't shut the threads down and silence all the doo doo heads making fun of your personal guru.

                              It's actually rather pathetic.
                              Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                              Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                              -Rudyard Kipling

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                              • #235
                                Just google "Parelli and Scientology". Funny stuff and great comparisons. Does Parelli wear lifts in his boots? Just curious.

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                                • #236
                                  Originally posted by GaitedGloryRider View Post
                                  http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/12039681/parelli-people

                                  "...halter is woven from Pat Parelli's own mustache hairs..."

                                  I just about died laughing!
                                  Yes, I smell like a horse. No, I don't consider that to be a problem.

                                  Originally posted by DottieHQ
                                  You're just jealous because you lack my extensive koalafications.

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                                  • #237


                                    My horse ran over me because he is a left brained extrovert.
                                    When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                                    The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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                                    • #238
                                      Originally posted by JSwan View Post
                                      They're not an "anti-Parelli" cult.

                                      They appear to be horsemen. You know, the real kind. The kind who can tell sh** from shinola. When it comes to Parelli - there is little shinola.

                                      Again - more deflecting. Blame the good horseman for pointing out that the Emperor has no clothes - and all you can come up with is the demand to censor them.


                                      Which only proves my point - that Parelli is in fact a cult. Freak if anyone dares to discuss Parelli, deflect attention away from the bizarre "training" methods, and then pout because the mods won't shut the threads down and silence all the doo doo heads making fun of your personal guru.

                                      It's actually rather pathetic.

                                      The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.

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                                      • #239
                                        Originally posted by 7HL View Post
                                        End result is the same dead and butchered. So if there are more slaughter houses , lessens transport time. Example: place them next to an auction houses. I agree make the kill method fast, and quick.
                                        Yes, as I pointed out, the end result is the same. But there is a lot more to humane animal processing than just making transport time shorter or making the manner by which the meat is harvested "fast and quick."




                                        Don't know don't care to know. The ribbon chasers just want to win ribbons in local shows.


                                        But what some are failing to get is that those that want to go to Parelli University, want to become Parelli trainers. They have been using the program for some time. They are seeking to franchise his training program, to make money
                                        Since you drew the comparison, I was just trying to figure out how far the parallel went. And you don't know. Fair enough.

                                        But why the disdain for "ribbon chasers"? How is that so different from pursuing a certificate from PU? Both involve riding and instruction. Both involve a level of skill. And neither one guarantees the rider/student of ever making a dime from whatever knowledge was gained, despite the money spent.
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                                        the best day in ten years,
                                        you are SORELY MISTAKEN, MY LITTLE ANCHOVY."

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                                        • #240
                                          Originally posted by 7HL
                                          "Don't know don't care to know. The ribbon chasers just want to win ribbons in local shows."

                                          And Parellites just want to earn different colored "savvy" strings and gold stars. What's the difference?
                                          Yogurt - If you're so cultured, how come I never see you at the opera? Steven Colbert

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