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  • Who says we don't suffer consequences of war?

    I hate war and I hate hate. If everyone were allowed to live in peace, there would be no war, except for selfishness. Ok, I hate selfishness too.

    "I can justify anything!"
    \"Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion. It seizes a person whole and, once it has done so, he will have to accept that his life will be radically changed.\" -- Ralph Waldo E

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    • And he will be happy to face him, rusti.

      "I can justify anything!"
      \"Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion. It seizes a person whole and, once it has done so, he will have to accept that his life will be radically changed.\" -- Ralph Waldo E

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      • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> One of the reasons why Colin Powell was unable to educate the selfish idiots on the UN Counsel is because he CANNOT devulge all that our intelligence tells us. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

        Duffy, thank you for bringing this up (I meant to in an earlier post and then it completely slipped my mind).

        I have little doubt that the US has the evidence it needs to prove the allegations that have been lobbed at Hussein. However, I have absolutely no doubt that revealing all that we know would lead to the deaths of many persons who were instrumental in gathering this information. I also believe that our future ability to collect sensitive intelligence information would be seriously compromised as well. Furthermore, there is little room for doubt that the Iraqi government was well aware of this when they called on the US to prove these allegations in front of the whole world at the UN.

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        A dog has one master, a cat has an entire staff.

        [This message was edited by canterlope on Mar. 18, 2003 at 06:48 PM.]
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        If the Number 2 pencil is so popular, why is it still number 2?

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        • The US is being led into war by a man who failed on more than one occasion to find oil in Texas.

          Praying for our troops is not going to keep them out of harm's way in a war. This is an unfortunate fact of war, and one very compelling reason not to go to war at all.

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          • If you hate war how can you be for it. Fighting for peace is like F@#%$ng for virginity. It "might" make you feel good but you've defeated your purpose.

            PEACE brings PEACE, War begets War. When will we ever learn? The insanity of war must end, or we all will ... end.

            Eomer, aka, The fool on the hill.

            I plan to live forever ...
            ... so far so good.
            \"The fool on the hill\"

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            • I believe there is a time for war, when all else fails. I can still hate it and accept it when needs be.

              "I can justify anything!"
              \"Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion. It seizes a person whole and, once it has done so, he will have to accept that his life will be radically changed.\" -- Ralph Waldo E

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              • Peace does not necessarily beget peace. History has taught us this too. There will always be those individuals who make peace impossible for those wishing for peace.

                "I can justify anything!"
                \"Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion. It seizes a person whole and, once it has done so, he will have to accept that his life will be radically changed.\" -- Ralph Waldo E

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                • Thank You canyonoak... you have said what I can only feel. Thanks for finding a way to put it in words.
                  Pat Ness

                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by canyonoak:
                  Im so sad.

                  I didnt vote for Bush..knowing in my heart his election would only continue what his campaign promised--a total division of the American people.

                  Must say he has succeeded far beyond my biggest nightmares.

                  Small comfort that I can state honestly I had NO say in the policies now 'representing' some of the American people.

                  This is a sad day.

                  A sad day for the dream that was America.

                  A sad day for the world.

                  And I have a terrible dread that this day is going to stand as a watershed mark for the world.

                  Historians will point to this time, these decisions, and say: 'here is where it all began.'


                  great. just great.

                  no one will be happier than I, if several months from now, some of you can say..

                  --ha ha 'told you so' all those bombs, all those lives, all that chaos--it was for the best....See how great everything is now?--<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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                  • Duffy, peace has to start somewhere. There needs to come a time when mankind says "I will fight no more forever". I hope to see a day when the people of the world will recall any official insane enough to suggest the possibility of war.

                    But, for all your bluster, Duffy (and not just you), you're talking out of your @ss. You have no way, I hope, of knowing what war is. I pray for the day no one does.

                    The fool on the hill.
                    \"The fool on the hill\"

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                    • Gee, Eomer. Thanks.

                      "I can justify anything!"
                      \"Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion. It seizes a person whole and, once it has done so, he will have to accept that his life will be radically changed.\" -- Ralph Waldo E

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                      • I'll tell you what the world needs now: More photos of Toppers and that other wee fella. Rocky, is it? For the love of Pete, bring on the miniatures!

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                        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SaddleFitterVA:
                          I do want to see Saddam Hussein gone, but I am not convinced that Bush is going about it the right way. I am saddened for all the people whose lives will be lost.

                          Mel<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          And how would you get rid of Saddam? Not being sarcastic but I'm just really curious.

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                          • Real Americans don't shoot first.

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                            • I believe there IS a time for war.

                              But this ain't it.

                              Janet
                              chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle, and Brain
                              Janet

                              chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                              • I grew up in the 60s and 70s. I watched my friends and brother deal with the draft, go off to war and come home (or not, in the case of my brother). I didn't believe in the war in VietNam. I don't like war, I don't really like conflict of any kind. But I don't hide from it. I love life and peace. It would be nice if one could say "I won't fight anymore" and that would be the end of it. How do you think Saddam would respond to that or Kim Jong Il? We don't have to wonder about Hilter, we know what he did when we said we wouldn't fight. We layed down our arms after the Persian Gulf War. It didn't bring peace.

                                I think this is a terrifying complex situation. It is no co-incidence the the nuke program in Korea is coming back on line now. And Portia, for what it is worth, I think you point about their sensativity has a lot to do with the Chinese being quiet about this issue.

                                I have asked several times "What should we be doing instead?" I would like to know, truly.
                                See those flying monkeys? They work for me.

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                                • B_lilly, What's the rush. Are you afraid he'll get away? Wait, that's what we want him to do. Maybe, just maybe IF we gave him a safe place to go ... he would. Doesn't it strike you ... at least a little bit wierd that we told him to leave ... but nobody mentioned ... where he's supposed to go. We've already determined he doesn't give a $#!+ about his people so, IF I were him, why not use them as sheilds ... he has nothing to loose. Actually he has no choice. We've boxed him up, now were going to batter and fry him. Plus or minus a few "rag heads".

                                  "The fool on the hill"
                                  \"The fool on the hill\"

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                                  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jumphigh83:
                                    Oh sweet holy mother of God.... Not ANOTHER leftist liberal tree hugging luv fest of the singing of koombayah and president bashing!!!!!! When you all are wearing towels on your heads and reciting the Koran maybe THEN you will appreciate what MORAL and decent leaders both Bush and Blair are .. They have the intestinnal fortitude to stand up to EVIL and and it to be REMOVED from this earth..And ANOTHER thing...the USA is only ENFORCING the UNs original ruling ...albiet TWELVE YEARS later! So NO we are NOT alone in the world we are STANDING up for the world and what is right.

                                    Betsy
                                    http://www.threewindsfarmny.com

                                    Lead, follow, or get out of the way...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                    Thank goodness...finally a voice of reason!

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                                    • The Iraqi government has a long history of being the power behind Hezbollah and Hamas.
                                      The biggest difference between Iraq and N Korea is this. N Korea has stated openly that they have nuclear capability. That pronouncement, though not welcome is a starting point for negotiation. The Hussein government has claimed for years that they have no nuclear program. Which is a bigger worry, they guy who tells you he has a weapon or the guy who has something to hide? As crazy as this guy in N Korea is, Hussein is the bigger threat.

                                      Resident racing historian
                                      Founder of the Mighty Thoroughbred Clique
                                      F O.B
                                      Resident racing historian ~~~ Re-riders Clique
                                      Founder of the Mighty Thoroughbred Clique

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                                      • Thank you Jumphigh83
                                        I was wondering if anyone had any sense left!!!
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                                        • Eomer, I think that's a very rash assumption. I think there quite a few people on this thread who do have personal experience with war- through family or friends who have served this country or others in previous wars.

                                          I am not a religious person, but I do pray for peace. Short of peace, I pray for the safety of our soldiers and innocent citizens. And I hope that this conflict is resolved quickly and as bloodlessly as possible.

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