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  • Well, I certainly feel that SOMETHING in US foreign policy needs an overhaul. I'm not sure where the policy makers would start, tho. Perhaps a little less antagonism and a little more cooperation?

    We can't continue pissing off the rest of the world forever, even if some people do think we're justified in doing it.

    -Albion

    'O lente, lente currite noctis equi' - Ovid

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    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RAyers:
      DMK,

      Try that post again. I'm not sure anybody heard.

      <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

      I think that may be due to the bad case of "offensensitivity" going around.

      "Speak yer mind. But ride a fast horse"
      Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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      • Pissing off the rest of the world? Last I looked the coalition was alot more nations than the few that chose to stay silent (mostly because their weapons, etc. are now being found in Iraq )-

        You might check the facts before making these sweeping statements.
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        • Does anyone remember the military's "Vision Project" from 2000? The objective was to develop a US capacity for "full spectrum dominance" defined by DoD as "the ability of US forces, operating unilaterally or in combination with multinational and interagency partners, to defeat any adversary and control any situation across the full range of military operations."

          The original goal, IIRC, was to develop this capacity by 2020 (?), but it seems it's coming to fruition a whole lot sooner.

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          • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Albion:
            We can't continue pissing off the rest of the world <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

            YES WE CAN! We're just starting to get good at it.
            "WHINNYING" IS EVERYTHING!!

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            • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JER:
              "full spectrum dominance" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

              Cool. Sounds like an ad for one of those whip-&-chain girls with the thigh-high boots. (No, not the saddle-seat riders, the OTHER w&c girls).

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              • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ise@ssl:

                You might check the facts before making these sweeping statements.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                Good point. Especially considering that the Pentagon has not confirmed the existance of any WMD at this point in time (thus making it hard to support any statement talking about our troops finding such weapons manufactured by non-coalition countries). So yes, I totally agree with you about the problems with sweeping statements net a fact check. Definitely weakens your argument.

                "Speak yer mind. But ride a fast horse"
                Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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                • whip & chain girls ...

                  ... hmmm, I see a whole new era of patriotic recruiting posters for the Army!

                  -Albion

                  'O lente, lente currite noctis equi' - Ovid

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                  • CNN/Reuters:
                    &gt; &gt;&gt;
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; News reports have filtered out early this morning
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; that US forces arrested
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; Mohammed Al-Hazar. Sources indicate that, when
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; arrested,
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; Al-Hazar was in possession of a ruler, a protractor,
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; and a
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; calculator.
                    &gt; &gt;&gt;
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; US President George W Bush argued that this was
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; clear and
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; overwhelming evidence that Iraq indeed possessed
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; weapons of
                    &gt; &gt;&gt; math instruction.
                    &gt;
                    &gt;

                    "If you are going through hell, keep going." ~Churchill~
                    \"If you are going through hell, keep going.\" ~Churchill~

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                    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by timedjumpoff:
                      There's no PASS or FAIL here. You know what you are.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                      Yes, by God, I do!

                      "The fool on the hill"
                      \"The fool on the hill\"

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                      • QUinn - ROFL

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                        • Here's one of my favorite sites to check often (for world traveler types)
                          And here's the latest comments on Iraq...
                          http://travel.state.gov/iraq.html

                          It is so sad that in most Arab countries women are treated like property. For example:
                          "...Women under the age of 45 and children must travel with an escort, such as her husband, father, or a close male member of the family who has the permission of the husband or father to be an escort for his wife or daughter. The authorities may apply this law to women traveling on foreign passports. Otherwise, when in Iraq, a woman married to an Iraqi and traveling on her foreign passport may be required to produce evidence of her husband's permission to leave the country..."

                          I have not seen this in Morocco - but I know laws like this are standard throughout the middle east.
                          I don't believe anything "the coalition" does can change this oppression. Very sad.
                          "...Saudi women are prohibited from marrying non-Arabs except with a special dispensation from the King. (A dispensation is also required before a Saudi woman may marry an Arab who is not a citizen of the Gulf Cooperation Council, i.e. Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, and the United Arab Emirates.)..." Can you imagine getting marriage permission from George W. Bush?

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                          • ise@ssl said weapons, not WMD.

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                            • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dcm:
                              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eomer:
                              [QUOTE]Originally posted by dcm:
                              Eyore<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              this isn't going to be flatering, is it?

                              _My apologies, it was a purposeful dig. I take it back. I do, however, have a hard time pronouncing your name. Help me out, please. _

                              <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              It's from Tolkien, close as I can come phonetically is somewhere between Aomare and Aomer.

                              "The fool on the hill"
                              \"The fool on the hill\"

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                              • The Americans sold Hussein plenty of weapons as well.

                                What will we do if the Iraqis democratically choose an Islamic government ... say, like Iran's?
                                If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket

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                                • According to "Defend America, U.S. Department of Defense Newas About the War on Terror," Defend America DOD the following are the members of the "coalition of the willing" (as of March 20):

                                  "Forty-three countries which have offered various levels of support for Operation Iraqi Freedom are willing to be publicly named as members of the coalition, U.S. defense officials said March 20. Some countries prefer to remain anonymous, but that number becomes smaller every day as more countries publicly join the coaliton."

                                  "Publicly listed coalition members include: Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, Czech Repbulic [sic], Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Eritreat [sic], Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Japan (post conflict), Kuwait, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Mongolia, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Rwanda, Singapore, Slovakia, Solomon Islands, Spain, Turkey, Uganda, United Kingdom, United States, Uzbekistan."

                                  As for how many countries there are in the world, the UN lists 191 Member StatesU.N. Members and Observers. According to World Atlas.com, how many independent countries there are depends on who you ask and range from 189 to 104, plus an additional 58 Dependencies and Territories. World Atlas.com Countries of the World The ISO lists 239 different country name abbreviations. ISO Country Name Abbreviations

                                  But hey, as long as we have the Marshall Islands and the Solomons on our side, we're in with the in crowd.

                                  [This message was edited by Portia on Apr. 16, 2003 at 04:54 PM.]
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                                  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nhwr:
                                    ... you had me believing you were sincere with the "Peace on earth, goodwill toward men" thing. I am disappointed, that's all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                    Apparently you're not alone. I've been called a lot of things in my life, never a liar or fraud. *shrugs*

                                    It's hard to talk the talk or walk the walk for me. (I can't imagine what attacks this will bring on, but I hate to "disapoint" a lady, so I'll "share" a thing or two I wouldn't normally) I didn't just make my bed and clean my room as a child, we had inspection. Quarters were bounced off my bed every morning. My dad gave me one of my worst beating's for running from a fight when I was eight, the other kid was 12/13. I've never run from one since. Probably why I come off more abrasive than I actually am. That's how I was rasied, that's how I was trained, untill I met Eowyn that's how I was.

                                    So, yes, I have my feet in both buckets at once. I studied Clusewitz, Machievelli, Sun Tzu. In all of history I can't think of one war that couldn't have been avoided IF one or two things would have happend differently. I believe we can move in to peace. Even if I'm not always peaceful. *shrugs*

                                    "The fool on the hill"
                                    \"The fool on the hill\"

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                                    • Did we finally decide the Turkey was a part of the coalition or that Turkey was chicken? Thankfully we have all the good guys like El Salvador, Uganda and Rwanda WHEW. THank goodness for that.

                                      Watched the footage of the child who lost his arms and all his family this morning and it does make you feel a little less warm and fuzzy about the victory. Or maybe fuzzy is about right.

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                                      • There is always a moment in time when anything that happens for good or evil would have been changed by a different response.

                                        SO WHAT? That has nothing to do with what is as a result. You can't put the milk back in the bottle after it spilled on the floor!

                                        Battle Scarred Veteran
                                        http://www.usAHSA.org and http://www.noreinstatement.org

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                                        • Couple of points - maybe Eomer is a REMF. Would make sense.

                                          Also yesterday they found rockets with "made in France" and they were dated 2002 - so that was a violation of UN sanctions.

                                          Also some Russian military equipment dated 2001.

                                          Now are we seeing a pattern here....

                                          If we find some weapons with Deutschland made in the last few years - well ...."we have a winner!".

                                          The injuries in Iraq are sad - but what about the THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO DISAPPEARED UNDER SADDAM? I suppose for some people that's easier to handle because "poof" they are gone. No nasty nasty photographs.
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