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  • #21
    Originally posted by charismaryllis View Post
    What's the square boxy thing in the middle though? ( and I think I've seen ring bits on race horses...?)
    The boxy thing is the port, which holds one side of the ring. This is a Western bit, with ideas from California with the chains and high port. Some were of Mexican origin with their adaptations. Short shanks, rein attachements come in a variety of styles. Usually small holes at shank ends are for rein chains which may be missing now. Ring on the port was usually shaped in the better models, with a wider band of flattened metal on the side of ring under the jaw area.

    Here is a closer photo on Ebay, of a similar ring bit, just not as nice.
    Do a search for item 400304375359. The small photos include a horse wearing the bit, ring under the jaw.

    I don't think any one still manufactures these bits, but they were widely available at the turn of the century in Sears and other catalogs, from bit makers.

    There are a variety of ring bits, used in a variety of ways. Probably the ring bit on a race horse was a type of Chifney. Ring is actually D shaped with the flat side going thru the mouth in one model. Side rings snap onto a halter or bridle to support the bit in the mouth. No shanks, no port. Ebay photo is on item 380246599351.

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    • #22
      This is not western or antique. This is a common type of bit in India. Here is another vid from tudocavalo. There is a movement to educate and elliminate these bits... I've seen some program to collect donated bits to give to these people in exchange for their "thorn bit"
      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kyaRU1-BdWs

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      • #23
        Originally posted by goodhors View Post
        The bit photo shows a ring bit, commonly used back then in certain areas "out West" by horsemen, cowboys. Ring went around the lower jaw, sort of like a curb strap. Shank lengths are always very short. Chains for reins to attach to were part of the balance system and prevented horse chewing on leather reins. Not a beginner horse bit. Certainly got used poorly in the wrong hands, but the bit itself was not a bad one.

        The Native Americans probably got the bit in trading with the settlers or at an outpost that had supplies. The NA folks had no way to forge or work iron, so those metal products always were originally made by settlers or brought from the East.

        Headstall and bit in the photo could have been a gift, kept for "good" when the NA owner got dressed up. Old yes, but I don't think it was made by the Native American owner. Could have been enhanced with silver work as time went on.
        My thoughts also.
        GR24's Musing #19 - Save the tatas!!

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        • #24
          hmm, thanks; i guess i'm just used to seeing things that go into horses' mouths (even spade bits) being smoother and not so square. (i've seen the bits in person--they're really rough looking.)
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          • #25
            Agree Plainandtall and others that say it's made and used in India. Not uncommon at all out there sadly.

            In the UK there are charities that collect bits that are no longer needed by people in the UK and ship them out there to exchange them. Sadly not always successfully as they don't believe our bits 'work'.

            There are some enlightened folk out there but sadly nothing like as many as you'd like to think. I just picked one bit up at Easter and it drew blood (it was a spiked, straight bar 'snaffle'. Seriously scary stuff.

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              #26
              that is just awful and well disgusting

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              • #27
                Geeze. Talk about an e-brake!

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