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Someone educate me - tying a horse to a tree/pole with its head up high

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  • #21
    I was taught that tying a horse directly overhead, or as high on a barn wall as possible or to an overhead branch, is the safest way as he can't get a purchase to "set back" and either break the halter or injure his neck.

    The reasons one might need or want to do this:

    Teaching a youngster not to ever fight a rope.

    Reminding an older horse it's time to "chill."

    Safe way to secure him in the absence of other restraint such as a stall or pen

    Emergency on the trail or road.

    In those situations, there is not a thing wrong with this. Using such a method to attain some kind of "headset" seems abusive and counterproductive to me, but I think the mentality of one who resorts to such methods is more concerned with prize money than the horse.

    The best happy medium is to tie the horse with the fixed end of the rope high, but leave enough so he can drop his head lower than his withers to clear his lungs, etc. but can NOT get a leg over the rope. This gets dicey with colts throwing stall tantrums--when in doubt with a horse who's getting dangerous or stupid, tighter & higher is safer.

    And of course, tying ANY animal in a place where it has no water or weather protection is unacceptable altogether unless the situation is a (momentary) emergency.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by trubandloki View Post
      I do not think people can answer your question with out more information about what you are actually asking.

      Are you trying to start a wreck about the practice of tying to tire a horse to get a low head set or are you truly asking about say picket line style tying?
      Tying directly to a tree or pole isn't picket lining.

      I think OP is genuinely curious.
      Originally posted by dizzywriter
      My saddle fits perfectly well. It might be a little tight around the waist, but I take care of that with those spandex things.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Appsolute View Post
        Some local “charros” like to ride their horses hard, then tie them very high and tight (think extended neck, horse seemingly on tippy toes). The horse is left straining and can’t relax. Seems like some sort of “punishment” or a way to sore / really tire out a horse. I have called animal control regarding lack of water / visibly distressed horses tied up like this in 90+ degree heat. Animal control says there isn’t much they can do. They can go out and ask that the horses be watered, but in the end, it’s a “cultural way of training”. I personally think it is a abusive and VERY poor training.
        I'm not all of the way through the thread yet, but this may be what the OP was referring to. For those of you back east, just take a look at some of the California CL ads (particularly "Inland Empire") and you will plenty of examples of this

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        • #24
          Alittlegrey, Good good good for you for calling sheriff. That type of tying is very wrong & is done by ignorant, mean people who don't care about the horses.
          Glad that you trusted your gut.
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          • #25
            Just imagining that horse dancing on his toes with his nose stretched up is nauseating. The idea that some of you on this thread subscribe to it sickens me. Its a far cry from safely tieing a horse high with its head level. That's a big difference. That there are apparently people on this thread who can't tell that difference is disgusting, and they disgust me.
            My warmbloods have actually drunk mulled wine in the past. Not today though. A drunk warmblood is a surly warmblood. - WildandWickedWarmbloods

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            • #26
              Just in case it wasn't clear, I'm not condoning the act of tying up high, but just relaying the reason I've heard of. I see a big difference between tying up high enough to be safe and high enough to create pain/stress/exhaustion. Wasn't clear in the OP what she was asking about, but the additional info makes it sound like the intent was not just safety.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by horsepoor View Post
                Well, in the western pleasure world, the idea is to make them so tired from holding the head up, they'll go in to the ring with that low peanut roller headset that is so desired...or so I have been told.
                When that started many years ago, the AQHA had reps and stewards walking thru the barns at shows, especially at night, catching anyone doing that and suspending them.

                In their own barns, I guess it is up to the ones there to do something.

                Seems that some bad exhibitors keep finding ways to cheat.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Bluey View Post
                  When that started many years ago, the AQHA had reps and stewards walking thru the barns at shows, especially at night, catching anyone doing that and suspending them.
                  From the rafters, one hopes.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by fburton View Post
                    From the rafters, one hopes.
                    One sure hopes so, don't we.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by fburton View Post
                      Tying "high and short" is considered safer too. If the horse struggles, he is less likely to caught up in rope.
                      and more likely to break his neck and die
                      not the ideal thing to do -
                      what ever happened to handling at at birth or if not soon after foal and youngster dont really know anything at all

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