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Town residents upset that fireworks display will cause them to euth their pony

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  • #41
    Originally posted by carolprudm View Post
    lol, just wondering what "non narcotic sedative" the owner is using....and since it hasn't worked well in the past maybe just maybe she should try something else
    Yeah, I hear dromosedan works.


    Then again, I took a trailer-out dressage lesson on my non-drugged, non-earplugged ottb during a fireworks display with absolutely no issues so I am not inclinced to be sympathetic.
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    • #42
      How come it's always an animal who was "rescued from abuse", too? As far it having been abused goes, pictures or that didn't happen. These days anyone with a horse that even flinches at a raised hand 'rescued them from abuse.'

      And yeesh. Benny lived next to a shooting range for years and every year the 4-H horse barn was right by the midway (until they finally moved it a bit farther away, thank goodness, it was INSANELY crowded). He lived.
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      • #43
        Every year I have 3 firework displays very close to me. The horses stick their heads out of the dutch doors and actually watch them.

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        • #44
          We practically abut an Indian reservation, so we have fireworks about 3 months out of the year (Memorial Day to about July 10, and then again from about Dec. 26-Jan 6.)

          They get used it. We have not yet lost a horse, and we have lots of horses.
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          • #45
            I think a lot of animals, especially older ones, that have a strong reaction to fireworks have compromised hearing in the first place--the high pitches that the FW make, that don't occur daily, make them more reactive to "hearing" on those not-every-day occasions. It may have nothing to do with past "abuse".
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            • #46
              We have a collection of testosterone-poisoned asshat neighbors who can't help themselves from shooting off large, commerical-grade, illegal fireworks very near our fields at every opportunity--spring break, New Year's, birthdays, and of course the 4th of July. Half the time when I'm in the middle of trying to feed!

              Fortunately, the horses by now think it's a thunderstorm and completely ignore; so do my dogs, but a lot of people's dogs are truly traumatized. See thread on escaped Corgi near here.

              I'd move the pony to a quiet barn, give it a little Dorm, and add a fly mask and earplugs. I think these people are being major drama queens; after all, they have warning; we get absolutely none!

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              • #47
                The sound of fireworks has never bothered any of my horses. It's the sight of fire raining from the sky that freaks them out (but only if it's directly overhead). Solution? I lock them in their stalls with a faceful of hay. They never even notice the fireworks.

                Dogs are a different matter because they react to the sound. Mine gets nervous during action movies if the surround sound is too loud. But as a friend of mine noted with her old dogs, hearing loss solves problems!

                The pony owners are being overly dramatic.
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                • #48
                  Well I love horses and I love fireworks and have not found the two to be mutually exclusive-- ever. But then we don't set the fireworks off IN the horse pastures.

                  I don't think LL Bean will be doing that either, so I think there are polnty of reasonable solutions that will accomodate the firworks lovers AND the pony. It is the drama llama owners who are the proble, here.

                  Imagine trying to make a whole town feel guilty by threatening to put your old pony down. Awful.

                  I think LL Bean is being more than reasonable and accomodating.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Long Spot View Post
                    I hate to say it, but if the pony is in such rough shape that moving him to a quiet location with a vet on hand isn't a viable option in their opinion (and a BEYOND reasonable offer from L.L.Bean) then perhaps it's time to let the old friend go. A car driving by could backfire and cause exactly what they are afraid of.
                    i agree. the pony's quality of life doesn't sound great already.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by danceronice View Post
                      How come it's always an animal who was "rescued from abuse", too? As far it having been abused goes, pictures or that didn't happen. These days anyone with a horse that even flinches at a raised hand 'rescued them from abuse.'
                      My TX farrier used to rant about owners who excused every lack of Ability To Stand Still While Getting Your Feet Done with, "Oh, he was abused!"

                      Farrier's answer, as the horse continued to dance around over top of him: "EVIDENTLY NOT ENOUGH!!!"
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                      • #51
                        Originally posted by MistyBlue View Post
                        Yes, fireworks suck for livestock owners who have livestock that fear them. No, the rest of the planet should not have to accomodate that.


                        You have to do what you can to keep your animals calm, but the world does not revolve around you or your animals.

                        Our farm is inside the city limits and situated such that the displays from two nearby gated communities and one in a public park not far are are quite loud and visible. In addition to the commercially run shows, we also have neighbors who have their own bang-bang stuff going on. It all starts at dusk and goes on for at least 3 hours.

                        Our animals (5 horses and numerous cattle) pretty much settle down after the first few LOUD booms. We've found that if we leave the horses out in the pasture where they can see what's going on and move around, they do better than if they're cooped up in stalls. Our border collie never could get used to the 4th, so we ace'd him up and kept him in the nice cool house for the entire day.

                        Does it surprise anyone that the pony was "rescued from abuse"? And "her responses to fear are unpredictable." I bet *I* can predict when the pony is likely to react badly ... and it's when her owners expect her to.
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                        • #52
                          Originally posted by mp View Post


                          Does it surprise anyone that the pony was "rescued from abuse"? And "her responses to fear are unpredictable." I bet *I* can predict when the pony is likely to react badly ... and it's when her owners expect her to.
                          Exactly. Poor poor L. L. Bean if this happens. It continues to amaze me that some certain people are able to sleep at night.

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                          • #53
                            Originally posted by mp View Post
                            I bet *I* can predict when the pony is likely to react badly ... and it's when her owners expect her to.
                            Yeah, I'm relatively certain that if my horse HAD acted up during his fireworks-accentuated dressage lesson, I would have been like, "What the he11?! THE HALF HALT STILL COUNTS."


                            I'm also fairly certain that HE is fairly certain of this, which is probably why he paid attention and didn't try any shizzle in the first place.
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                            • #54
                              I don't think the pony is the one that needs the sedatives.
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                              • #55
                                My money says the pony has normal reactions to the fireworks, but owners are drama-prone and think that every little spook is a "panic attack" or trauma from abuse or PTSD or whatever they're going to call it. I agree that it is time to sedate the owner. She's not the first one to deal with a so-called "rescue" animal during fireworks shows.

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                                • #56
                                  I object to any reduction or cessation of fireworks. My retired mare LOVES fireworks, and will stand and gaze at the display from her pasture. To deprive her of a massive 4th of July fireworks display would be irreparably damaging to her psyche, and tantamount to abuse.

                                  So there

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                                  • #57
                                    My horses live across the road from Quantico's proving grounds. There's a shooting range nearby, as well chain saws, lawn mowers and kids on bikes.

                                    They don't even look up.

                                    Pony's owners need to chill. Fireworks don't do anything for me, but I'm firmly in LL Bean's corner on this one.
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                                    • #58
                                      Originally posted by SwampYankee View Post
                                      We have a collection of testosterone-poisoned asshat neighbors who can't help themselves from shooting off large, commerical-grade, illegal fireworks very near our fields at every opportunity--spring break, New Year's, birthdays, and of course the 4th of July. Half the time when I'm in the middle of trying to feed!
                                      Do you live next door to me?
                                      Two of mine have gotten used to it. I moved my gelding on New Year's because he's very reactive and I didn't want to chance it. I would not have turned down an offer to pay for it. It cost me $100 for trailering and one night board but at least I wasn't worried about my excitable boy.

                                      LL Bean is being more than accommodating. It is incredibly self centered and unrealistic to think that this large a public celebration should be cancelled so that one pony doesn't have to spend the night somewhere else.
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                                      • #59
                                        I can only hope that all of us here who side on L.L. Bean will be there to support L.L. Bean when this 30-year-old pony bites the dust during or after the fireworks.

                                        Seriously. I can see this happening. Lawsuits are the name of the game these days.

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                                        • #60
                                          And although the fireworks show is increasing/changing, considering LL Bean has been there forever, bet they've been in place much longer than the pony owner. And if you google her, she has also been on the Town Council, and opposed to development - may or may not have been substantiated. Perhaps missing her place in the spotlight.

                                          Just sounds like a drama llama (sorry llamas!).
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