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Tennessee Walking Horse Soring Issue *Update post 1*

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    Thanks for sharing that. Discouraging to say the least.
    from sunridge1 Go get 'em Roy! Stupid clown shoe nailing, acid pouring bast@rds.

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    • Did you really expect anything else?

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      • Some of the remarks by Sarah Lynn came off as very condescending - basically, that unless you have participated in showing a TWH in rail classes, you cannot possibly understand it and just need some "education."

        IMO, it is the people who do own and ride naturally-gaiting flat-shod TWHs who "understand" - maybe better than anyone - just how much of a perversion the Performance Horse classes really are.

        We know because we have experiences to compare it to. We know how versatile and willing and stoic the breed is, and we know that the true gait doesn't come from pads or chains or chemicals.

        Rail classes, to me, are of little importance when it comes to the whole package of what a horse can offer. It just leaves me asking "is that all it can do? Go in circles with crap on its feet to make it step higher and look flashy?"

        The fact that the TWHBEA has put the padded/performance horse on a pedestal as the "ultimate" representative of the breed just goes to show that maybe they are the ones who don't really understand.
        Please copy and paste this to your signature if you know someone, or have been affected by someone who needs a smack upside the head. Lets raise awareness.

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        • The more things stay the same, the more things...stay the same.

          For us who are long in the tooth on all this it's deja vu all over again. The Sore Lickers are hunkered down and their appologists are fawning at the feet of the outraged, insisting that "all is well."

          It's not.

          G.
          Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

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          • Original Poster

            Well, we followed the money back to owners and breeders (who are all entangled on BOD lists of the various HIOs and judges also) who will not be influenced by public outrage. CFF Farm posted a while back inquiring if there was a list of owners so we could appeal to them. I think we should boycott whatever businesses the owners are in. Years ago i remember a link to the Marriot Hotels. And all those Ritz horses..... someone from Ritz Carlton owns BL horses. I bet many of the owners have businesses that are national in scope - not just local. What if we hit the FB pages of the big companies ? and emailed headquarters ? I dont know how to find out what business these fatcat owners and breeders are in. Any suggestions ?
            from sunridge1 Go get 'em Roy! Stupid clown shoe nailing, acid pouring bast@rds.

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            • -Sarah Lynn:

              To answer your question, WHOA will amend its rules and regulations to accommodate whatever might be any future requirements of the federal government pertaining to the show ring presentation of the Tennessee Walking Horse.

              "We ain't gonna do it til we has too."

              Not knowing just what your involvement with the TWH might be, I really don't want to overload you with information, much of which you would not understand unless you actively participate in rail competition horse shows.

              "It's a Big Lick show thang, you wouldn't understand"

              Deplorable.
              All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
              -Edward Burke

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              • Originally posted by WalkInTheWoods View Post
                Well, we followed the money back to owners and breeders (who are all entangled on BOD lists of the various HIOs and judges also) who will not be influenced by public outrage. CFF Farm posted a while back inquiring if there was a list of owners so we could appeal to them. I think we should boycott whatever businesses the owners are in. Years ago i remember a link to the Marriot Hotels. And all those Ritz horses..... someone from Ritz Carlton owns BL horses. I bet many of the owners have businesses that are national in scope - not just local. What if we hit the FB pages of the big companies ? and emailed headquarters ? I dont know how to find out what business these fatcat owners and breeders are in. Any suggestions ?
                Start with the owners of WGCs, a google search should give up some info. Then on to the top studs and advertisers in The Voice. I have a copy of the 2010 sire summary, I'll start digging.
                All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
                -Edward Burke

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                • "As CEO of W. B. Johnson International, Bill Johnson, made his fortune as the largest Waffle House franchisee in the US. Johnson also acquired the rights to the Ritz-Carlton Hotel Company name in 1983 and expanded the hotel throughout the world, eventually selling those operations to Marriott International."
                  From Tuesdays horse

                  Bill and Sandra Johnson own Waterfall Farms, and were suspended for hpa violations in 2011. 1 year, $1,000.00 fine each for soring JFK All Over.

                  Going to dig some more...
                  All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
                  -Edward Burke

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                  • Originally posted by WalkinAfterMidnight View Post
                    -Sarah Lynn:

                    To answer your question, WHOA will amend its rules and regulations to accommodate whatever might be any future requirements of the federal government pertaining to the show ring presentation of the Tennessee Walking Horse.

                    "We ain't gonna do it til we has too."

                    Not knowing just what your involvement with the TWH might be, I really don't want to overload you with information, much of which you would not understand unless you actively participate in rail competition horse shows.

                    "It's a Big Lick show thang, you wouldn't understand"

                    Deplorable.
                    That's exactly what I got out of it, as well. I never recieved a reply to my last message, so I wonder if it became food for thought, or if I ended up on the SPAM list.

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                    • W B Johnson Properties Llc filed for chapter 7 on May 1, 2012.

                      Karma anyone?
                      All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
                      -Edward Burke

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                      • You would think that as many "dislikes" a person receives on his videos would be an indication of how many of us currently dislike abusive TW practices. BUT this guy fights over every response in hopes of justifying his position. It makes me feel good that some of us are "under his skin". I hate the "Big Lick" oops I mean the "Big YucK" and am opposed to the shoeing, the soring, and anything that makes these horses look like abnormal cartoon characters so their owners can get a few bucks or a ribbon. Poor souls!!

                        Celebration video TW
                        http://youtu.be/ZH-X6nu5grI

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                        • Originally posted by Char View Post


                          Not knowing just what your involvement with the TWH might be, I really don't want to overload you with information, much of which you would not understand unless you actively participate in rail competition horse shows. I did talk to Annette in the registration office at the Tennessee Walking Horse Breeders' and Exhibitonrs' Association and discovered you live in Bay Springs, MS.
                          I love how she basically called you an idiot...and when did you move to MS????
                          I'm not a CPA.

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                          • the stable @ 1803 hwy 64 w Shelbyville Tn. is listed on the tax roll of Bedford Cty belonging to Floyd and Beverly Towne Sherman of Dallas Tx.,now these two have HPA violations all the way back to 1989,trainer none other than Jackie the Jerk. horses: Executive Order and A Mark for Me. just to name two.

                            another fellow who worked for the Jerk is None other than Dr.Mark Akin DVM of Maryland i believe.

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                            • Originally posted by Guilherme View Post
                              The more things stay the same, the more things...stay the same.

                              For us who are long in the tooth on all this it's deja vu all over again. The Sore Lickers are hunkered down and their appologists are fawning at the feet of the outraged, insisting that "all is well."

                              It's not.

                              G.
                              I agree with this assement of the situation 100% This is what has been happening over and over again for going on 60 years.

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                              • There was a Mark Akin, DVM, in Memphis. Sold his practice to his employees and now practices out of Tupelo. One of his ex-employees is my horses vet.

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                                • what ya bet your Vet can tell ya a few stories.

                                  i asked my Vet about soring, they do not treat at farms that are BL,no coggins or health records, will go in an emergency colic ect. i gave out a name they flat out told me NO service to that farm.i asked do you feel that the practice BL is harmful the answer was yes. but there are Vets that are in it for the $$,coggins test 25 bucks yrly shot another 50.00 farm call 55 to 75 bucks.you do the math.

                                  my vet says my practice will not work at BL farms period. im keeping my Vet.

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                                  • [QUOTE=Char;6366294]
                                    Originally posted by walknsound View Post

                                    Ditto.

                                    I recieved more email responses from Mr. Hamilton from PRIDE, and they were none too pretty. I'm now racist, and do not care about child abuse, nor abuse in other horse breeds and industry, and I only care about picking on TWH.



                                    *sigh*
                                    I'm surprised he didn't remind you that the Nazis killed 10 million people and point out how you don't care about them, either. (wry grin).
                                    My warmbloods have actually drunk mulled wine in the past. Not today though. A drunk warmblood is a surly warmblood. - WildandWickedWarmbloods

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                                    • Originally posted by kathy s. View Post
                                      Char,

                                      Why don't you forward all those emails to Roy Exum (the man writing the columns for the Tennessean). I bet he would have a field day with that! Or have them published in the TWH mags.
                                      Also, find out who's over him and go over his head, with copies of his responses.

                                      I was quite taken by how literate and well informed your letter was. You supported your points with facts, and it was very very well written. I think your response to this yahoo should be to whoever is responsible for hiring him, or putting him in his position. That person may well be appalled at how he responded to you. Especially considering your connections and concerns about support of the group etc. Add the word "fundraising" or something like that to your desires and possiblitlities, and speak about your influence nationally (coth is national) for support and concern about how the group conducts themselves when you move on up the ladder with your next letter and with forwarding the responses of that turd. He insulted your intelligence and attempted to shame you for speaking your concerns so intelligently! He must be stupid, stupid, stupid. (Remembewr that movie?)
                                      My warmbloods have actually drunk mulled wine in the past. Not today though. A drunk warmblood is a surly warmblood. - WildandWickedWarmbloods

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                                      • Thought I'd add this guy to the list of nice, natural moving, horses. He's daddy to some of a friend's foals.

                                        http://www.ivoryknollranch.com/index.html
                                        Groom to trainer: "Where's the glamour? You promised me glamour!"

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                                        • now thats what i like to see clean hooves,with a good stride,beautiful movement.what color

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