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    Carriage hijakced in St. Louis

    Link to the whole story here:
    http://horsetalk.co.nz/2012/05/10/ca...ls-it-for-home
    Yes, I smell like a horse. No, I don't consider that to be a problem.

    Originally posted by DottieHQ
    You're just jealous because you lack my extensive koalafications.
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    yiekes!

    Will we find out why the man attacked the carriage?

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    • #3
      Geezum...

      Stolen yearlings, cart races in Ireland, beheaded horse on the beach, and now a hijacked carriage....

      That supermoon really was something, eh?

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      • #4
        Next: Zombie horses!
        "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier

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        • #5
          seriously, we need to reopen insane asylums. we need to stop being PC about. There are people attacking horses left and right! the black magic in England, racing in Ireland, and in general, America has plenty to fill quite a few asylums.
          www.facebook.com/doggonegoodgoodies
          http://doggonebakedgoods.com/

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          • #6
            It may have NOTHING to do with it but it comes with suspicious timing. Just Yesterday someone posted on https://www.facebook.com/CarriageHorseCruelty

            Feel free to check out the above page and look at the comments on their pictures about what they feel is abuse. Things like horses eating out of buckets on the ground, foam in horses mouths , chestnuts = tumors , resting a hind leg = lame. I know it sounds extreme but they are waging war on horses and our right to own and use them as we see fit.


            with this convo asking for advice and help for a St. Louis carriage horse ban. We keep saying its not just NYC that is in jeopardy .

            driana Frida Critters
            hi, i am St Louis trying to ban carriage horses along with the local animal rights group. The public relations person for Anheuser Busch (local) is saying that we are opening ourselves to slander and libel for stating that "spent" carriage horses are sent to slaughter (she claims they are all lovingly adopted by the drivers...). I have given her links to HSUS and the FOIA info about the NYC horses...
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            Yesterday at 5:02pm
            Carriage Horse Cruelty They are just trying to intimidate you. As long as you are not specifically claiming that they are doing it, it is not slander.
            Yesterday at 5:08pm
            Adriana Frida Critters we never mentioned their company by name. but of course, now i want to find hard evidence to show her that she is not just delusional, she is willfully ignorant. Thanks.
            Yesterday at 5:09pm
            Carriage Horse Cruelty Best way to do that is to catch them dead to rights. Find the nearest livestock auction and then watch them closely. If you decide to go that route there are groups that can give you advice on how to best do it and document it.
            Yesterday at 5:12pm
            Adriana Frida Critters thanks. i may just do that. if you are to follow the conversation (which is still going on) it is on the St Louis Animal Rights Team page under the "summer campaign against carriage horses".
            23 hours ago
            Carriage Horse Cruelty ok, will take a peek. Let us know if you need any help.
            23 hours ago
            Adriana Frida Critters thanks
            23 hours ago · 1
            Adriana Frida Critters oh, btw, she is trolling this page as well. she cut and pasted this thread to use it as "evidence" of something. And the FACT that I am an Atheist bothers her...LMAO. Figures. (hello facebook stalking troll!)
            "I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"

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            • #7
              Meanwhile, two soldiers who saw the initial carriage-jacking unfold had stopped their car and picked up Turner. The three set off in pursuit of the carriage. They also arrived in time to intervene to protect Harry.
              Anyone know if the soldiers who stepped in to led a hand are A) male and B) single?

              I might know someone looking for a knight in shining armor. Forget the white horse though, I.... I mean they, don't want to have to keep that clean....

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              • #8
                I live in St. Louis about 15 minutes way from downtown (at least for the next 10 days, until my upcoming move to Ohio), and sadly I'm not surprised The downtown area where the hijacking occurred has a mix of sports stadiums, tourist attractions like the Arch, bar/restaurant/clubs, all surrounded by some very poor, depressed areas with a lot of crime. I've personally never been really comfortable with going downtown.

                The stable for the carriage horses is just a block away from the baseball stadium, so this is very much in the middle of the city. Several weeks ago the carriage company had to alter their route to/from the stable because local hoodlums had taken over public roads for illegal street racing

                BES
                Proudly owned by 2 chestnut mares
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                • #9
                  So glad the horse is ok. Good boy, headed home!

                  Who attacks a horse?! Honestly.
                  Tell a Gelding. Ask a Stallion. Discuss it with a Mare... Pray if it's a Pony!

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                  • #10
                    Wow, thanks BES for making St. Louis sound like it's the wild west and a dangerous place.
                    Perhaps it's best you move to Ohio. I am sure it is much safer there.

                    And I am a City resident, and I work downtown.
                    My new mantra - \"Life is too short not to eat ice cream.\"
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by hackinaround View Post
                      It may have NOTHING to do with it but it comes with suspicious timing. Just Yesterday someone posted on https://www.facebook.com/CarriageHorseCruelty

                      Feel free to check out the above page and look at the comments on their pictures about what they feel is abuse. Things like horses eating out of buckets on the ground, foam in horses mouths , chestnuts = tumors , resting a hind leg = lame. I know it sounds extreme but they are waging war on horses and our right to own and use them as we see fit.


                      with this convo asking for advice and help for a St. Louis carriage horse ban. We keep saying its not just NYC that is in jeopardy .

                      driana Frida Critters
                      hi, i am St Louis trying to ban carriage horses along with the local animal rights group. The public relations person for Anheuser Busch (local) is saying that we are opening ourselves to slander and libel for stating that "spent" carriage horses are sent to slaughter (she claims they are all lovingly adopted by the drivers...). I have given her links to HSUS and the FOIA info about the NYC horses...
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                      Yesterday at 5:02pm
                      Carriage Horse Cruelty They are just trying to intimidate you. As long as you are not specifically claiming that they are doing it, it is not slander.
                      Yesterday at 5:08pm
                      Adriana Frida Critters we never mentioned their company by name. but of course, now i want to find hard evidence to show her that she is not just delusional, she is willfully ignorant. Thanks.
                      Yesterday at 5:09pm
                      Carriage Horse Cruelty Best way to do that is to catch them dead to rights. Find the nearest livestock auction and then watch them closely. If you decide to go that route there are groups that can give you advice on how to best do it and document it.
                      Yesterday at 5:12pm
                      Adriana Frida Critters thanks. i may just do that. if you are to follow the conversation (which is still going on) it is on the St Louis Animal Rights Team page under the "summer campaign against carriage horses".
                      23 hours ago
                      Carriage Horse Cruelty ok, will take a peek. Let us know if you need any help.
                      23 hours ago
                      Adriana Frida Critters thanks
                      23 hours ago · 1
                      Adriana Frida Critters oh, btw, she is trolling this page as well. she cut and pasted this thread to use it as "evidence" of something. And the FACT that I am an Atheist bothers her...LMAO. Figures. (hello facebook stalking troll!)
                      This is the St Louis group:

                      https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/ST...am/91565842024
                      VP Horse & Carriage Association of NYC

                      https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-F...ref=ts&fref=ts

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MunchingonHay View Post
                        seriously, we need to reopen insane asylums. we need to stop being PC about. There are people attacking horses left and right! the black magic in England, racing in Ireland, and in general, America has plenty to fill quite a few asylums.
                        Shoot, I could fill up at least 3 of 'em right here in Fairfield County!!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SwampYankee View Post
                          Shoot, I could fill up at least 3 of 'em right here in Fairfield County!!

                          seems like it's cheaper to just put a roof over the county!

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                          • #14
                            EVERY city has high crime areas you might not want to walk through alone at night (or any time of the day). I grew up in the Cincinnati area and went to college in Cleveland. Same thing...those cities have their bad areas. Overall, I don't think it's any worse here in St. Louis than anywhere else.

                            Compared to other cities I've lived in, St. Louis does seem to have an unusual patchwork of neighborhoods ranging from very, very poor to extremely pricey right next to each other. Things can change within a block, and then change back again. I've lived here for 9 years, and as a non-native learning my way around, I found figuring out where the line between "safe" and "non-safe" neighborhoods lies challenging. Other "transplants" I know have had similar experiences.

                            That being said, I have LIKED living here and am only leaving due to a job opportunity I couldn't pass up, not because I'm fleeing some crime ridden "wild west." As far as tarnishing the city's reputation, nothing I wrote regarding crime in the city or relative crime in specific areas of the city is untrue. Pretending that there aren't parts of the city with significant problems doesn't help matters. I don't understand this if-you-don't-like-it-just-leave mentality.

                            To keep things HR, the combination of horses in an urban area with lots of non-horse people is bound to lead to some incident or another eventually.....because as a species, humans just aren't that bright. As several current threads on COTH demonstrate
                            BES
                            Proudly owned by 2 chestnut mares
                            Crayola Posse: sea green
                            Mighty Rehabbers Clique

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                            • #15
                              Remind me never to mess with St. Louis horses. Though there is no mention of how the 60 YO carriage driver is doing after being hit by the cane and jumping out of the carriage, the press notes that Harry the horse got the next day off and a massage.

                              In true horse loving fashion, they ignored the people and focused on what was important - is the horse okay?
                              <><

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by hasahorse View Post
                                Wow, thanks BES for making St. Louis sound like it's the wild west and a dangerous place.
                                Perhaps it's best you move to Ohio. I am sure it is much safer there.

                                And I am a City resident, and I work downtown.
                                Uhhh, have you watched the news recently? StL is a dangerous place to live, statistically speaking. Frankly, I wouldn't want to stroll about many parts of downtown with my horse (although she is probably tougher than most of the thugs around ).

                                And I have lived within about 30 minutes of downtown for over 30 years.
                                "And now . . .off to violin-land, where all is sweetness and delicacy and harmony and there are no red-headed clients to vex us with their conundrums."

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by hackinaround View Post
                                  It may have NOTHING to do with it but it comes with suspicious timing. Just Yesterday someone posted on https://www.facebook.com/CarriageHorseCruelty

                                  ]
                                  I went to the link posted and commented on 3 pictures and while commenting on the 4th when I tried to post it I had already been banned! And I didn't even say anything rude or mean. I posted on one pic where a horse had peed and they were going on about how the horse must have splashed itself, but I posted that you could clearly see the horse's legs were totally clean. I then posted a couple times and how cute and healthy some of the horses were. They move fast!!

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by ElisLove View Post
                                    I went to the link posted and commented on 3 pictures and while commenting on the 4th when I tried to post it I had already been banned! And I didn't even say anything rude or mean. I posted on one pic where a horse had peed and they were going on about how the horse must have splashed itself, but I posted that you could clearly see the horse's legs were totally clean. I then posted a couple times and how cute and healthy some of the horses were. They move fast!!
                                    Its sad huh? People who know nothing about horses attacking and protesting and convincing other non horse people that what they are seeing is abuse.

                                    I feel like the NYC carriage's and other equine pursuits that are under attack from this ilk are similar to the first line of defense.....if we lose them we open up the flood gates for these people to do the same to other groups.
                                    "I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by hackinaround View Post
                                      Its sad huh? People who know nothing about horses attacking and protesting and convincing other non horse people that what they are seeing is abuse.

                                      I feel like the NYC carriage's and other equine pursuits that are under attack from this ilk are similar to the first line of defense.....if we lose them we open up the flood gates for these people to do the same to other groups.

                                      Yep.
                                      Divided we fall. Like dominoes.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by ElisLove View Post
                                        I went to the link posted and commented on 3 pictures and while commenting on the 4th when I tried to post it I had already been banned! And I didn't even say anything rude or mean. I posted on one pic where a horse had peed and they were going on about how the horse must have splashed itself, but I posted that you could clearly see the horse's legs were totally clean. I then posted a couple times and how cute and healthy some of the horses were. They move fast!!
                                        Yeah.... I got banned from there a few days ago (and apparently a few other pages I never commented on! ) these people are nuts...
                                        Clancy 17hh chestnut Dutch WB, '99. Owned and loved since '04 and still goin'!

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