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  • #21
    I dunno, I thought the OP was kinda clueless herself in her other thread for considering a companion goat for her filly in a pen (in mountain lion country), instead of just training the horse to come in when called.

    We all have our lessons to learn, I guess.
    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack in everything
    That's how the light gets in.

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      #22
      My horses have never been turned out because they were in training barns and got worked 6 days a week. I've ridden for 18 years and showed at the national level so I am not clueless at all. I was also a working student so I did my share of grunge work to be able to show and have a horse.

      The filly and the mare she was out with know how to come in when you whistle but they started completely ignoring us.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by WarDance View Post
        This is also my firs experience at a boarding barn.
        Since you're new to this boarding thing, let me give you a little advice I learned as a boarder since 1983: unless there is a safety concern at the barn, STFU and MYOB. If there is a safety concern, tell the BM or BO, then STFU and MYOB.

        It's one thing to express concern for a potentially over-horsed newbie. It's quite another to disparage her taste in fashion.
        I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right
        Violence doesn't end violence. It extends it. Break the cycle.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by tuppysmom View Post
          My first equine was an ungelded 2 yr old palomino Shetland Pony.

          He taught me more than any horse I have owned since then, and there have been lots, as in more than a 100 have come through our barn.

          I was 8 years old and earned the money to buy him by selling pumpkins that I grew in our back yard.

          Oh, and I lived in a subdivision and lead my pony back and forth to his $2 per month rented barbed wire fenced, no shelter, pasture by sitting on the tailgate of my older brother's jeep. And yes, sometimes we had to drag him a bit to get him to follow.

          And I had bright red everything! Life was wonderful !!!!
          Those were the days, huh? My (single) mom paid $25 a month for a "fancy" pipe corral at the dairy across from our subdivision - to keep the $50 Mustang in. I thought that was horse heaven because it had a covered metal roof on one end AND access to the auto waterer that was for the cows next door. My tack box was an old Barbie suit case that I kept ALL of my tack in (which consisted of the above mentioned blue bridle and pad, a curry comb, a dandy brush, hair comb and some scissors).

          I didn't even know that there were places where people wore "riding clothes". I loved that horse more than the world and felt like the luckiest kid on the planet. Looking back, I was the luckiest kid on the planet.

          Thank God I never ran in to anyone like War Dance......

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          • #25
            Originally posted by WarDance View Post
            My horses have never been turned out because they were in training barns and got worked 6 days a week. I've ridden for 18 years and showed at the national level so I am not clueless at all.
            Oh, you're clueless my dear.

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            • #26
              If you board at an eventing facility, it sounds like this girl ought to fit right in! As an eventer, I take great delight in owning all sorts of heinous colored tack and horse equipment. I'm that tacky kid (ok, 20-something, whatever) you see at horse shows who is all decked out in her colors. And I love it! Maybe you think rhinestones on saddles are bad, but I did just see a very expensive dressage saddle for sale at Rolex that had rhinestones on the flap and cantle. If you board at an eventing barn and there AREN'T any eccentric, silly, color-loving people there yet, it sounds like you really needed the new boarder's presence!

              Perhaps this girl is a little naive, but she'll find out pretty soon how over her head she might be (or maybe she'll be very, very lucky and have hit the jackpot with an easy-to-break saint of a horse). That's when you can say something- like "I've heard Tom Thumbs aren't very good bits, would you link to borrow my french link? It's not as harsh." Maybe she could've bought a more suitable horse from your friend, but she wanted a mustang, and hey, they need homes anyways. If it doesn't work out, maybe she'll have enough extra money and love in her heart to hang on to this horse anyways or rehome it with someone more suitable. Offer your support and help so that she actually listens when you're concerned for her safety and pipe up.

              P.s., you should ask her where she got her leggings and report back on here. And if they sold purple ones, because they sound like something I'd love to wear!

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              • #27
                If you stopped at saying she bought an unbroke horse, is not an experienced rider, and her tack looks like it wont suit/might be dangerous I might have believed that you were concerned.

                But then you went on to ridicule tack, clothes, colors and decorations. Straight down to Jr High.

                Sorry, wont share in ridiculing. If you cant offer to help, then leave her alone. Some of us remember when we were "clueless newbies". We also remember those who helped and were kind and those who only wanted to snicker and feel superior.

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                • #28
                  Wouldn't it be funny if this gal and her new horse were trail riding by fall, and the gal does in fact know multiple disciplines? That's where I'm betting my money. Life can be funny that way.
                  "Aye God, Woodrow..."

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by WarDance View Post
                    So it gets better. She already has a trunk full of tack. She proceeds to show me her collection of nylon tie dye halters and hot pink nylon with rhinestone halters. Then she shows me her fuzzy leopard print purple saddle pad! Then in comes the hot pink bareback pad! Her saddles are also those cheap, gawdy saddles you can get off ebay for like $300 new. It came complete with blue rhinestone hearts on the breastplate and a matching bridle that she has all ready to go with a tom thumb bit! Her other saddle is one of those cheap Abetta western saddles.

                    It literally looks like the Tacky Tack blog exploded in our tack room right now! I began to wonder if this was all some kind of joke but it's real. I'm actually legitimately worried about the safety of this girl though. She's obviously very clueless. I don't know what our BO was thinking letting her board here because it sounds like she could be a huge liability. I guess it's a possibility she didn't tell the truth. However, people that bring dangerous horses and refuse to work with a trainer will be told to leave. It's happened once before.

                    I think I should take some pictures of what happened in our tack room. It's pretty scary!
                    Originally posted by WarDance View Post
                    Oh and I'm not a teenager. I'm in my mid 20's. This girl is probably in her early 20's. She dresses like she's 12 though. She was wearing some leggings with neon galloping horses and a pink skirt over them!

                    And when asked what type of riding she does she says she does everything! I also touched the rhinestones on the saddle and I'm pretty sure it's plastic.
                    This is just some petty Mean Girl stuff right here.

                    It's one thing to have genuine concern because she's a novice with a young unbroke horse, but quite another to rip on her for her tack color choices. Be nice. The snotty Mean Girl act doesn't look good on you.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by hundredacres View Post
                      WarDance, you must be lucky to have had someone show you the ropes already so you know what's cool and what's not, huh? There are worse things in the world than colored tack. And for what it's worth, the Abetta saddles aren't that bad . And I was once a girl at a stable with a Mustang and a blue nylon halter and ugly bareback pad. I didn't have any saddles though - we didn't have money for one. I guess looking back on it, people like you probably laughed at me as well. *shrug*

                      She may not know much about horses, but don't ruin it for her since this is her first. Horse people should support one another, not criticize.

                      The best thing you could do is befriend her and hope some of the wisdom you have LEARNED (you weren't born with it!) rubs off on her.

                      ETA: rhm rider, I hope you are a teenager too. There's hardly an excuse for this kind of criticism from an adult.
                      This. And make sure she has a good helmet. I'd also mention where she can get riding lessons, to "get her muscles back in shape". And I would definitely befriend her, and offer to help her if she'd like.
                      I definitely wouldn't make fun of her tack. She has probably always dreamed of owning a horse, and if colored tack makes her happy, so be it. I'd make sure that she has a snaffle bit to start him in, and a nice heavy cotton rope leadrope. Explain that nylon really causes burns, and doesn't give you much control if you need it because it's hard to hold on to.
                      If you really try to be nice and offer her safety advice, explaining "why" you could really be a help.

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                      • #31
                        Nobody ever steals the stuff in the effed up colors.
                        Originally posted by The Saddle
                        Perhaps I need my flocking adjusted.

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                        • #32
                          Originally posted by WarDance View Post
                          The filly and the mare she was out with know how to come in when you whistle but they started completely ignoring us.
                          Yeah. Clueless. And filly and mare know it. They're probably out there ridiculing your taste in clothing.
                          Ring the bells that still can ring
                          Forget your perfect offering
                          There is a crack in everything
                          That's how the light gets in.

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                          • #33
                            Geesh, OP, you are 20+ years old, and still act like a bratty teenager? Grow up and actually act your age, won't you?

                            I have money to buy expensive tacks and horses, and yet I find your ridiculing this girl extremely repulsive.

                            When you are actually knowlegeble about horses, maybe, just maybe, you will be more humble, huh?

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                            • #34
                              Originally posted by WarDance View Post
                              It literally looks like the Tacky Tack blog exploded in our tack room right now!
                              The majority of Bailey's accessories (including his shipping clothing and custom-made/embroidered halter) are green and gold/Green Bay Packers colors. As rustbreeches said, none of that tack has EVER gone missing

                              I have also never noticed a difference in performance between the green pad with gold trim, my navy pad, or the white with black piping dressage pad. Does brightly colored equipment just not work as well as traditionally colored tack
                              I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right
                              Violence doesn't end violence. It extends it. Break the cycle.

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                              • #35
                                Originally posted by WarDance View Post
                                My horses have never been turned out because they were in training barns and got worked 6 days a week.

                                .
                                CLUELESS!!!

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                                • #36
                                  I can remember wanting a horse so much I hurt inside. It was like a private club where only the worthy need enter, or so it seemed to me. Finally, as as adult, I found a barn that welcomed newbies, and a trainer who was willing to show me the ropes. Got my first horse, an OTTB mare, and haven't looked back. But at first it was so intimidating. If people at that first barn had acted judgmental and superior I wouldn't have lasted long.

                                  Thank goodness there are still kind people out there who want to welcome newcomers into the world of horses.

                                  And, as someone said, if you have really ugly and gawdy gear at a boarding stable, no one will "borrow" it and not return it.

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                                  • #37
                                    Back in the Stone Age (around 1980), in my late teens, I worked at a barn, and was quite willing to pass my supreme knowledge (and smug attitude) along to others, almost as well as the OP.

                                    One day, we had a new boarder...A rather unkempt girl, fly away hair, kind of leggy, seemed a bit disorganized. Very chatty, and appeared clueless. Her "horse" showed up the next day. Today I think we would call him a hony, he was a dappled gray gelding, with a cute little head, tank body, and stumpy little legs. All of 15 hands...maybe...

                                    My friends and I just smiled as we led our tall TB's (school horses) out to the open jumping field where we had our lessons. New boarder threw her saddle onto her gelding (traditional tack, no neon way back then).

                                    Those two together had freakin' WINGS! That girl could ride, and that hony could fly!!! She was the most natural, fearless rider I'd ever seen. Shortly after that, one day at the barn, they jumped over a convertible, just for giggles. He could also clear empty hay wagons. She absolutely cleaned up in jumping classes, and was a blast to ride with on hunter paces.

                                    Now, in my late forties, I continue to struggle along. While I consider my self an intermediate rider, and good horseman, I'm glad after those first few days of smugness, I came off my high horse (he he), and made a friend. That girl was a breath of fresh air!!

                                    Moral of the story...Don't judge a book by it's cover. At least give this new boarder a chance. Or, give some guidance, and make a difference in someone's life, and their horses' welfare. Or, like another poster said MYOB, and stay in your own little world. JMHO...

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                                    • #38
                                      Dress doesn't matter. I'm glad you both are in an evener barn. They seem to be very helpful with the things that matter, safety for horse and rider and health of your horse.
                                      I got my horses when I was in my 30s and was an English rider in a western penning barn. Many people helped us showing us the real basics.
                                      I hope you and she get help with what you need when you need it.

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                                      • #39
                                        You are in your 20s? You should be concerned with your own problems. Really, grow up.

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                                        • #40
                                          Originally posted by WarDance View Post
                                          My horses have never been turned out because they were in training barns and got worked 6 days a week.
                                          That is so sad. Every race horse I have ever galloped or trained got some kind of turnout time, be it a round pen, a small paddock, or something around a couple acres, depending on their temperament.
                                          Originally posted by The Saddle
                                          Perhaps I need my flocking adjusted.

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