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  • #21
    You CAN sell a horse with issues, and as everyone has said, transparency is the key. Disclose EVERYTHING (every seller should do this anyway in such a litigious society) and let the buyer decide what they're willing to put up with. And yeah, the price will be lower than if he had no issues and was pushbutton.

    My current horse was sold to me as a bit of a problem. The seller had sold him before and he had come back six months later because the new owners said he wouldn't stand for mounting and had bolted while they were getting on, causing a fall. The seller is a good one and will take back a horse that doesn't work out. She told me about the problem and did hold him lightly when I tried him. He made no move to take a step, let alone bolt. Other than that, very pleasant, easy ride. No rear, no bolt, no buck...so I bought him. For three figures, including delivery. The horse has never once, in the five years I've owned him, taken so much as a step when I mount; he stands like a rock. And he's turned out to be lovely, cleans up locally in just about everything. To this day, I can't figure out what his former owner was doing to cause his behavior (NOT saying the OP is the problem in this case!) or if they were exaggerating it (like they jabbed him in the rib and he walked/trotted a few steps-OMG he BOLTED!) or what. But he's such a great horse, honestly, I would have worked with retraining him to stand anyway. He was the bargain of the century for me. That might not have been true for everyone, hence the lower price, but it worked out great with the right match!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Bluey View Post
      My opinion, for what it's worth, the horse needs some more training by a good trainer, so he doesn't has those "issues".

      If not, he can be sold with full disclosure and at a cheap enough price so the training it will take to make him lose his "issues" will be accounted for.
      this......exactly! My new mare is a spookie bugger and extremely careful over fences (double whammy). While I paid a lot (in my books for her), she was priced well below market value for a fancy, well bred mare that wins or places top 3 in nearly everything she enters! Because of the cheaper price than other horses that do as well as her, I am able to keep a pro on her and she is becoming better each ride and in turn I am also learning to deal with her issues!
      Go Ahead: This is a dare, not permission. Don't Do It!

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      • #23
        Ehh, not everyone's idea of a problem horse is the same though. A lot of it depends on what the potential buyer has in the way of a toolbox to deal with the horse's particular issues, and how the horse would be kept. People with their own farms have a flexibility in dealing with certain behavioral/management issues that people who board do not.

        Be honest and evaluate each prospective buyer and the situation the horse would be in.
        Full-time bargain hunter.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by sellingquestions View Post
          I'm interested in people's thoughts on how to sell the problem horse. Lets assume (for the sake of argument) that the horse is sound and does not have any medical issues. It has good ground manners, and does not crib.

          But, for the sake of argument, lets say that the horse can be a little tough to get going at the beginning of a ride. May throw in some obstinate "I don't feel like working today" bucks at the beginning of the ride. Can be looky or spooky until it gets going. Once horse gets going, its a nice mover and quite trainable. Horse is not a "pro ride" because it's just not that tricky after the first five minutes.

          Is it possible to sell this horse? How? Does it need to be sold by a professional?

          Just curious about people's experience and thoughts!
          Honestly, like other posters have said, from the brief description this horse doesn't sound THAT bad, in fact, this is the type of horse I personally enjoy! My current horse is difficult to ride, but not dangerous, and its all the more rewarding when we get it right!

          I am one of those riders out there that enjoys some personality and challenge from the horse under saddle - and I am no 3'6" jumper/prelim eventer/PSG dressage rider - just enjoy some spark! And there are more of me out there - but you may need to sell at a lower price.

          Poor ground manners on the other hand, I can't take - I fully admit that I like to maximize my training time in the saddle - and I want the time on the ground with the horse grooming and caretaking to be RELAXING not frustrating! So I personally would never buy a horse with trailering or tieing issues or who won't stand for the farrier - I don't want to waste my time working on that stuff when I could be in the saddle riding out the spooks and the bucks

          So your horse sounds great!!

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          • #25
            Back in the day we owned a QH mix of some sort who was a really great horse - easy to show, easy to handle. He did like to throw a rear in now and then - sounds horrible right? But all he would do is stand on his rear legs levade style for a few seconds if he felt full of it. We used to laugh it off and keep going. Not a mean bone in his body. So, as others have said, if they are non-malicious bucks, ride on. But do warn people, as it sounds like you will do anyway. Some brassy teenager will love him!

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            • #26
              Originally posted by oldernewbie View Post
              Some brassy teenager will love him!
              Exactly. When we were kids, we were just aching for a horse with some fun in it to liven up our day. In fact, in a book a friend of our published, there is a photo of my sister just grinning from ear to ear as her young QH did some naughty bucking. He wasn't trying to kill her and would have been pretty shocked himself if she came off. He was just being a little fresh.

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              • #27
                OP, have you tried 5 minutes on the longe before you get on? I have a TB that sounds similar to yours -- he's not spooky but will play a bit if he hasn't been ridden in a day or two. A quick turn on the longe will get the sillies out.

                On the other hand, while I am sort of contemplating selling him because I don't have time for him, the thought is too depressing so I'll probably just keep him. He's lovely, but in this market even a very pretty green TB who is not dead quiet seems borderline unsaleable and I hate selling horses.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by SmartAlex View Post
                  Exactly. When we were kids, we were just aching for a horse with some fun in it to liven up our day. In fact, in a book a friend of our published, there is a photo of my sister just grinning from ear to ear as her young QH did some naughty bucking. He wasn't trying to kill her and would have been pretty shocked himself if she came off. He was just being a little fresh.
                  My horse when I was 16 just HAD to get in a little buck before getting down to serious business. He never got me off, it was just his way of having fun, or so I thought then. He was a great horse!

                  Some teenager will love yours!
                  What's wrong with you?? Your cheese done slid off its cracker?!?!

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