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  • #21
    What amazes me is that there is no anti-bestiality law in Washington state.

    Wonder what can be done about that...???
    "The standard you walk by is the standard you accept."--Lt. Gen. David Morrison, Austalian Army Chief

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      #22
      Just a note: I got this info off another message board where one of the posters happens to be a neighbor of said farm, she had no idea what was going on. From what she says the police have said "non back-door type" was what happened on the video evidence. And there seems to be a ring of people who use this farm to release tension?

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        #23
        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">What amazes me is that there is no anti-bestiality law in Washington state.

        Wonder what can be done about that...??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


        Here is the list someone on the other post listed.

        ""I looked up the State by State breakdown..... Glad I live in Michigan!

        Legality by US State

        (as of 3 July 2004. This information was gathered by countless individuals over time from information freely available from the public domain. Please be aware that this data is not guarenteed to be current, as state laws change frequently and with little fanfare.)

        Penal codes are cited where applicable.

        Bestiality is legal (or at least not expressly outlawed) in these U.S. states:

        * Alaska
        * Arizona
        * Colorado
        * Connecticut
        * Florida
        * Hawaii
        * Iowa
        * Kentucky
        * Louisiana
        * Missouri
        * Nebraska
        * Nevada
        * New Hampshire
        * New Jersey
        * New Mexico
        * Ohio
        * Oregon
        * South Dakota
        * Texas
        * Vermont
        * Washington
        * West Virginia
        * Wyoming

        Bestiality is a confirmed misdemeanor in these states:

        * California (Penal Code Section 286.5 Misdemeanor)
        * Minnesota (Minn. Stat. @609.294, (1993) Either fine of not more than $3,000 or sentence of not more than 1 year.)
        * New York (NY CLS Penal @130.20 (1994) Class A misdemeanor)
        * Utah (Bestiality 76-9-301.8 Class B Misdemeanor)

        Bestiality is a confirmed felony in these states:

        * Delaware (11 Del. C. @777 (1993) Class D Criminal felony)
        * Georgia (O.C.G.A. @16-6-6 (1994) 1-5 yr. jail sentence)
        * Idaho (Idaho Code @18-6605 (1994) "length of imprisonment in excess of 5 years is in discretion of court.")
        * Kansas (K.S.A. @2103506 (1993) Aggravated crime, sodomy, security level 2 felony)
        * Maine (17-A M.R.S. @ 251 (1994) Class C Crime; 3-5 yrs)
        * Maryland (Unnatural/Perverted Sexual Acts Article 27, Section 553. Up to $1,000 fine, max of 10 years prison)
        * Massachusetts (Mass. Ann. Laws ch. 272 @34 (1994) Jail sentence of not more than 20 years)
        * Michigan (MCL @750.185 (1992) Jail sentence not more than 15 years)
        * Mississippi (Miss. Code. Ann., @97-29-59 Sentence of not more than 10 years)
        * Montana (Mont. Code. Ann., @45-5-505 (1994) 10 year sentence and/or $50,000 fine)
        * North Carolina (N.C. Gen. Stat. @14-177 (1994) Class I felony. 3-10 yrs)
        * Oklahoma (21 Okl. St. @886 (1994) "imprisonment not to exceed 10 years")
        * Rhode Island (R.I. Gen. Laws @11-10-1 (1993) 7-20 years)
        * South Carolina (S.C. Code Ann. @16-15-120 (1993) 5 yrs jail and/or fine of at least $500)
        * Virginia (Va. Code. Ann. @18.2-361 (1994) Class 6 Felony)
        * Washington D.C. (DC Code @22-3502 (1994) ("Sexual Psychopath" chapter) Fine not more than $1000 and/or sentence of not more than 10 yrs)

        Bestiality is illegal in these states but the exact penalty varies or is unconfirmed:

        * Alabama (Code of Ala. @13A-6-63 (1994) "sodomy in 1st degree" criminal offense)
        * Arkansas (Ark. Stat. Ann. @13A-6-63 (1994) "sodomy in 1st degree" criminal offense)
        * Illinois (720 ILCS 5/12-12 (1994) Crime)
        * Indiana (Burn Ind. Code. Ann. @35-42-4-2 (1994))
        * North Dakota (N.D. Cent. Code @12.1-20-03, 12.1-20-07, 12.1-20-12 (1993) Various penalties, & can be considered either "gross sexual imposition", "sexual assault" or "deviate sexual act")
        * Pennsylvania (18 Pa. C. S. @3101, 3123 and 3124 (1994))
        * Tennessee (Tenn. Code. Ann. @39-13-501 (1994))
        * Wisconsin (Wis. State. @944.17 (1993))""

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        • #24
          What is it lately. It seems this sort of stuff is all over the place.

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          • #25
            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ~Freedom~:
            What is it lately. It seems this sort of stuff is all over the place. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

            Yup. My English & Welsh friends were all talking about a BBC documentary on it a couple weeks ago.
            "The standard you walk by is the standard you accept."--Lt. Gen. David Morrison, Austalian Army Chief

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            • #26
              Just when you think you've heard it all.
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              • #27
                <span class="ev_code_GREEN"> That is the MOST disgusting thing I have ever heard of. Why in the HECK would someone do that? UGH! </span>
                Thoroughbreds: classic

                Turn. N. Burn.

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                • #28
                  And WHY?

                  Here's another article... with all the same questions we have.

                  eeeewwww ewww eww...

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                  • #29
                    From the article - I think these questions sum it up perfectly...

                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Questions about the man, the horse and the goings-on at that farm in Enumclaw.

                    Why would he ... ?

                    And then, how did they ... ?

                    But then, wouldn't it ... ?

                    There are answers, to be sure. Just none I can print here.

                    ... And yet, bestiality is not against state law here.

                    Which leads to one more question:

                    Are you kidding me? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                    I am fairly confident that in the not too distant future there will be some fairly explicit (pun intended) laws on the books in Washington...
                    Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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                    • #30
                      INSANE! How twisted do you have to be??

                      IMHO, any offense of this nature against animals or people should warrant life in prison. People like this are a menace to society as a whole and cannot be rehabbed.

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                      • #31
                        does it go without saying that this is nothing new? have heard these stories (maybe not death therefrom, but you know, the weird people up the holler, down the road and such...) practically all my life or at least from PG age and upwards. am guessing it is a rarely prosecuted offense as you would probably have to get it on video tape to prove it.
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                        \"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.\"—George W. Bush

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                        • #32
                          Sorry--but something struck me as quite comical...did anyone ever consider there was no law in Washington state because it was never NEEDED!

                          Look at the states where it is a felony or higher crime.

                          Gotta LOVE the south.

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                          • #33
                            Good point LMH and yet this doesn't explain the absence of FLORIDA (and Texas!!!) from the list. Or sure, SFL isn't quite the "South" but what they lack in heritage they more than make up for in deviancy...

                            Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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                            • #34
                              no doubt a southern transplant.
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                              \"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.\"—George W. Bush

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                              • #35
                                EEEWWWWWW - Do we REALLY need a law to tell people not to have sex with animals??????? Like we need a law to tell people not to stick their hand in a running dispose-all??? DUH?!! EEEWWWWWWW - Gives a whole new meaning to that Deliverance scene "squeel like a pig" - Did I mention, EEWWWWWW.
                                www.waterhorsefarm.com

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                                • #36
                                  jetsmom - haaaa haaaa - jingles for joe - haahaaa - that made me pee my pants!!
                                  www.waterhorsefarm.com

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                                  • #37
                                    Wow, what is the world coming to?

                                    I think that man had some issues...
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                                    *Katie and Stormin Norman(11 year old OTTB)

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                                    • #38
                                      You all are welcome to discuss the article, as long as it stays PG.

                                      You are NOT welcome to bring up the names, unless they are mentioned IN PRINT somewhere reputable (i.e. a newspaper ... an internet forum does not count). Unless charges were filed against an individual, you can't say stuff like that here.

                                      Those of you who had your posts deleted know what I'm referring to, and the rest of you don't need to worry about it.

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                                      • #39
                                        Upon reading the update, it would appear as though the deviant was catchin' and the horse was pitchin', based on their investigation into this particular case. Which I think makes sense if you think about the proximity and postures involved in activities conducted with either one pitchin'. But if you think tooo much, it boggles the mind.........
                                        But it's really irrelevant, because the bottom line is the bastard got exactly what he deserved and the horse should be retired to a big green alfalfa pasture for the rest of his days. Good shot old boy I say.
                                        Either that or hired out to eliminate others of this pervert's ilk.
                                        "Perhaps the final test of anybody's love of dogs is their willingness to permit them to make a camping ground of the bed" -Henry T. Merwin

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                                        • #40
                                          The sad fact is that any horse who has been involved in such activity is probably going to be dangerous around humans.

                                          As twisted and sick as these people are, they have also created a very dangerous horses. A 1000 - 1200 pound horse could easily get the wrong idea once they have been "trained" to do anything like that.

                                          My point is that an animal need not be "smaller and weaker," as the articles mentions, to be abused. Thus, I believe this is truely abuse, as well as very dangerous for the horses - and is truely a crime of a most horrendous nature.

                                          It is times like these that I believe that people should be held accountable for their actions even if there is no specific laws on the books. We need a "how could you possibely think that that was okay" law to cover these situations. I mean really, we can't seem to write the damn laws fast enough - and people should be held accountable for their own gultenous and depraved actions.

                                          God, I think I need to go take a showered.

                                          SCFarm
                                          The above post is an opinion, just an opinion. If it were a real live fact it would include supporting links to websites full of people who already agreed with me.

                                          www.southern-cross-farm.com

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