Yeah, if you turn on your sound the girl that owns that horse was apparently on her last try and said she was going to have to put him down after that. And the vid title said it all - "Orphan Horse."
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..a clip from the movie "Buck" - extensive thread on that on this board.
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How strange that the orphan foals I raised never offered to be so mean or whatever you want to call it. The difference might be my foals were raised right out with the other horses, not in the same pens, but alongside them. They wanted to get snotty with me, they got smacked like a dam would do.Originally posted by karlymacrae View Post
I see the cowboy is trying to sack him out but I'm wondering if he got him in a smaller place, where the horse couldn't move, like a chute, and then, using hands, rubbed him all over. But, then you'd have to stick your hands and arm in between the bars of the chute. I did this with a TB filly who was wild off of a NM range. She turned out to be a decent saddle horse, not a kids horse but okay under saddle.
Maybe putting him down was the best thing after all.GR24's Musing #19 - Save the tatas!!
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Ah, that's why it seemed so familiar.What's wrong with you?? Your cheese done slid off its cracker?!?!Comment
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That is really sad to watch. I feel for the horse and the people but in that situation unless you can just turn him out somewhere and let him live then you have no option but to put him down. He is unsafe.
He has learned to turn on people. Life is just to short and full of loving horses for that type of danger.
There is a possibility that because he was an orphan that maybe he didn't have all the final wiring done. I have a "dummy" foal that I raised and he is the spookiest creature on the planet. I have given him every supplement know to mankind and have just come to the conclusion that he wasn't baked long enough. I love him dearly but I would not trust him with anyone but a seasoned rider.
He adores me and I adore him but if an animal comes near him he will sneaky attack. The dogs are not allowed near him.....and believe me they know to give him a wide berth.The rider casts his heart over the fence,
the horse jumps in pursuit of it.
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You probably didn't raise them in your house, potty train them to stay in your house, and keep all of your 18 horses intact for no real reason. Worth watching the movie...this is just a small part of it.Originally posted by goneriding24 View PostComment
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Nope, the poor darlin's had to stay out in the mean old corrals and poop/tinkle alongside the big horses. Everything was gelded when yearlings. Even the bottle fed young 'uns.Originally posted by BLBGP View PostGR24's Musing #19 - Save the tatas!!Comment
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WTH??
Someone put the link up so I can see the whole story!The rider casts his heart over the fence,
the horse jumps in pursuit of it.
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So what happens to the horse? I will get the movie.The rider casts his heart over the fence,
the horse jumps in pursuit of it.
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Yeah, I've totally heard about her lady and her housetrained horses.. definitely going to watch Buck so I can see the entire story.Comment
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Originally posted by goneriding24 View Post
You meanie poopie head,you obviously have no compassion you were treating them like
well like
ANIMALS
I'm not sure if I grew out of stupid or ran out of brave.
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There is nothing funny that that horse almost killed that guy because of an IDIOT. WOW......that makes me soo mad for the horse as well.
That horse is a total wreck. How sad.The rider casts his heart over the fence,
the horse jumps in pursuit of it.
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I admittedly didn't have time to read through every single comment, but yes, I believe the kicking was completely intentional. Watching the horse's expression, I'd venture to say that he wasn't particularly scared. However, he also didn't look that PO'd. I would wager that that horse has terrible ground manners in general. He was throwing only one foot out there UNTIL he made contact and then started double-barreling it...Like a horse that's decided to make a full-on challenge because he didn't receive a response. He didn't high-tail it outta there either. He more or less casually cantered off. He was asserting himself because he thought it was his place to do so and it makes him all the more dangerous.
Horses in my general vicinity are only allowed to pick up their feet when asked (within reason-excluding flies etc) and there is absolutely no kicking. If there is a tiger chewing on their butt and I'm standing next to it, they know better than to kick. Kicking, for any reason, is really unacceptable behavior. Period. It is my job to handle the scary things, not theirs. If something is causing them that type of mental or physical discomfort then they need move away from it without invading my personal space.
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As for "Buck," and the horse they had to put down...the handler that got hurt wasn't exactly paying attention to that very dangerous horse. In fact, everything about that horse, in that movie, really got to me. I was enjoying it until that part. Roping the horse's hind leg for control? Really?? The whole thing is sad because Buck was there to do amazing things, like get any horse under saddle...and he accomplished that...but didn't teach the horse a single thing in the process (pretty flippin' disturbing to me). It was purely to shock and awe the crowd that that aggressive horse had a rider. I believe it may have also given the injured fellow a false sense of security. He was paying more attention to the blanket than the body language of the horse from what I could see. The horse saw the opportunity to attack and went for it (and he DID look PO'd while attacking). I also believe that handler wasn't paying attention because that horse almost got him over the gate again later. That horse had the handler's number after the first attack. After seeing that poor animal being treated the way that he was, if I had any respect for "Buck," I lost it all after watching those scenes. Disgusting. That horse needed to learn respect before being backed by a rider. Grrrr. It made my blood boil a bit...and still does."Life ain't always beautiful, but it's a beautiful ride."Comment
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Vermillion, please understand that in the movie "Buck" we only got to see a very few scenes about that horse - scenes the director chose. We don't know everything that happened at that clinic. Please don't judge Buck based on footage chosen by a director to create a "feel" or "scene" for a movie.Visit Sonesta Farms website at www.sonestafarms.com or our FaceBook page at www.facebook.com/sonestafarms. Also showing & breeding Cavalier King Charles Spaniels.Comment
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Bluey here is quoting a story about a dog who bum rushed a horse and was kicked at deliberately.
IMO, the horse kicking at advancing dog and this one backing up to nail his down rider are different. This horse knew his rider posed no immediate threat while on the ground. Horse and dog? I can see why the horse went to DefCon 12.Originally posted by Bluey View PostRight, we don't know enough about this horse.
BUT, just as you have seen that pony and what happened there, you can see times where some horses are willing to do that kind of attacking, whatever the reason, for little provocation and of course when in the situations as there.
I think it depends what you do with that horse, if the horse happens to react like it did there by chance, or if it is a horse that does that regularly.
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Agreed, that this is deliberate. Doesn't preclude the other being deliberate, too.Originally posted by karlymacrae View Post
I've been riding for 42 years. I've had some fairly rank horses to deal with. But never have I experienced a "frightened" horse that's calculatedly turned its butt and tried to kick my lights out AFTER I'm already off and no longer a threat.
Horse needs a bullet. Anyone who'd try to rehome him deserves whatever sleepless nights visited upon them for a dumb decision. Because you all know that some overconfident trainer out there (or maybe someone even less competent ) would look at that horse and say, "I'll bet I can fix him" and then get seriously injured or killed by POS horse. It's axiomatic. Someone, be it egomaniacal trainer or POS horse, will bleed, or die, or both.
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Can we know this with 100% certainty? I don't think so.Originally posted by mvp View Post
ETA: We know that horses can behave "stupidly" in spooking at things as if they represented a real danger, when it is obvious to us at least that they are harmless. So why must we assume that this wasn't the case here too? We all have seen horses kick out at things that pose no immediate threat, especially if the horse is aroused or frightened in some way. While the actions in this video certainly look bad, I don't think we can rule out a defensive explanation.Last edited by fburton; Feb. 23, 2012, 04:10 AM.Comment
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That is what I think, a horse does something dangerous once, you are warned that horse may do it again.Originally posted by fburton View Post
If what the horse does is really dangerous, we have to evaluate if it is something we want to check into more, or not worth getting someone killed trying.
I doubt that this horse is such a nice, gentle horse and just there acted out of sorts.
I would say, that horse probably has been warning time and again before that he was the type to do something like he did there.
Since we don't know that, we can't say if or how bad the horse may be.Comment
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