No. And if I was your co-worker busting my butt to pick up the slack, I would hope you get caught and fired.
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This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.
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The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.
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When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:
Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.
Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.
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Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.
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Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.
Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.
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Have you ever called in sick so you could ride?
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I have not, but I probably would if I really wanted to go do something. I don't have the kind of job where someone else picks up the slack when I am gone (most of the time) so there is no guilt which is nice. Of course, it means I am playing catch up the next day but most of the time that also is not a big deal. Despite lots of other issues, my job is nice in that we can take a vacation/personal day at a moments notice if need be.
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I've never called in sick unless I was actually sick, especially since I only get 3 sick days and 10 vacation days a year. I HAVE taken a vacation day just to ride though."My biggest fear is that when I die my husband is going to try to sell all my horses and tack for what I told him they cost."
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I'd never call out so I could ride. I've called out because of an emergency when no one else was able to be here when the vet arrived. Or called to say I'm coming in late once because on my way to work I see a riderless horse wandering down the street and was in the process of catching horse and getting on the horn with my land lady who had the owners cell number to at least call and see if she's conscious/able to answer phone or if we needed to go on a search for an unconscious person.
And once I had an afternoon shift working at the portrait studio and had to call out because my lovely horse bashed my leg on a tree and I couldn't walk much less run back and forth from the sitting areas, back/printer, sales/viewing computers. But that time I called three of the girls who were off and called out armed with someone ready to cover the shift.
I don't like calling out, it throws a wrench in everyone else's day. But I was/am a little spoiled, after I left the first vet clinic I worked at (Where I'd work open-close 5-6 days a week. AM as assistant, PM as receptionist) I had shifts where I could either ride before or after work.
But no, I would never call out expressly so I could ride. It's unfair to everyone who showed up to work, and purely selfish IMHOOwned by a Paint/TB and an OTTB.
RIP Scoutin' For Trouble ~ 2011 at 10
RIP Tasha's Last Tango ~ 2010 at ~23
RIP In Sha' Allah ~ 2009 too young at 5
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Nobody picks up my slack when I'm not at work, so I don't have the type of job where it affects my co-workers. I just have to suffer through catching up when I get back.Originally posted by saultgirl View PostNo. And if I was your co-worker busting my butt to pick up the slack, I would hope you get caught and fired.
I probably would never do it (I've been working FT for almost 20 years along w/riding and haven't done it so far
), but it sure is tempting.
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Yeah, that was me at WEG, it was a beautiful day and the competition was so enthralling I called in 2 hours. Otherwise I sort of wouldn't recommend it - if you ride and break your arm you're going to need a lot more than 5 sick days.Originally posted by sketcher View PostI've called in sick form the middle of what turned out to be a 5 hour trailride. I just couldn't bear to go in on that particular memorable day.Courageous Weenie Eventer Wannabe
Incredible Invisible
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Working in stables and living right there, no one called in sick to go ride.
Not only that, we would beg to go on trail rides and participate in the more interesting lessons in our day off, so we were riding those days also.
I can't imagine trying to remember lies, how to not give yourself away later about what you did that "sick" day.
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My facebook status the other day was "We really need to get lights in the outdoor arena because this whole full time job thing cuts into my riding time."
I like the idea of the headlamp. I have one and just never thought about riding with it at night. One friend told me to get a miner's helmet.
That said, I have called into work just sick of working. My last job I had put in my two weeks notice and the last week, my grandfather (who I hated!) died. I was listed as next of kin in his obit, so I used berevement time that I was eligible for to "mourn my loss." Errr... I was reintroduced to my couch, spent some time in the saddle and got lots of cuddle time with my dogs. So, three extra paid days off, I went back in for 1 1/2 days and took off at noon on Friday and started my new job on Monday.
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Calling in sick, when you are not sick, is theft. You are "stealing" a day of work, that you are getting paid for. It is dishonest.
Having said that, I don't understand the US mentality of "sick days" which many people seem to see as an entitlement to take off, for whatever reason. I think your only 3 weeks vacation sucks.
If I employed you, and your employment expected you to be in the office during specific hours, and I found out that you had taken a sick day to go riding, I would fire you.
However all of this is dependent on your arrangement with your employer. For example, I get paid to do a job, not necessarily to work from 8 - 5. So, often, I may take a couple of hours in the afternoon to do something personal, but then do my work in the evening instead - that is the nature of my work.
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I've never done it JUST to ride, but I've done it for vet/farrier/dentist appointments when I can't make other arrangements.
I figure I'm allowed to use my sick time for my own doctor/dentist appointments, or a child or dependent's appointments. I don't see how my horses are different than dependents.
Don't fall for a girl who fell for a horse just to be number two in her world... ~EFO
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This. exactly. I have taken time off to ride, but NEVER sick time. Never. karma terrifies me.Originally posted by RockinHorse View PostI would never call in sick to ride because:
A) I would probably fall off and break something which would be hard to explain since I was supposed to be home sick in bed
B) I am afraid Karma would get me and I would wake up sick for real the next day
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i'm with Texarkana - I will take off for a vet appointment. We can take off for our kids - why not our pets? Especially since I don't have kids?
i'm a teacher, so I "pay" either way - either for a sub or the next day when I have to do double the work because I was gone one day. Argh.
I am planning on taking a "sick day" the last weekend of March because my good buddy KarenC is coming down to visit, and I will go xc schooling at the Park. They always have open schooling days after a major show, but geez - most of us work during the week! not fair."Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison
So, the Zen Buddhist says to the hotdog vendor, "Make me one with everything."
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Same here. I've even used sick time for vet appointments.Originally posted by Mtn trails View PostI have but I work in aerospace and no one picks up the slack. I get more than enough sick/vac time and you need to use it or lose it. And it was such a beautiful day and all my friends were going sooooo

Love the aerospace industry, but that's another thread."Be the change you want to see in the world."
~Mahatma Gandhi
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Like you said "is dependent on you arrangement with you employer."Originally posted by Kate66 View PostCalling in sick, when you are not sick, is theft. You are "stealing" a day of work, that you are getting paid for. It is dishonest.
Having said that, I don't understand the US mentality of "sick days" which many people seem to see as an entitlement to take off, for whatever reason. I think your only 3 weeks vacation sucks.
If I employed you, and your employment expected you to be in the office during specific hours, and I found out that you had taken a sick day to go riding, I would fire you.
However all of this is dependent on your arrangement with your employer. For example, I get paid to do a job, not necessarily to work from 8 - 5. So, often, I may take a couple of hours in the afternoon to do something personal, but then do my work in the evening instead - that is the nature of my work.
I am paid by the hours I work. So if I take a week off I don't get paid for that week. If I leave at noon I only get paid for the hours I worked. So if I call in and say I am taking a heath day no one is out or picking up my slack.
More people should take sick/heath days IMO, they would be eaiser to work with. Most people are over stressed from work and take it out on co workers.My life motto now is "You can't fix stupid!"
Are you going to cowboy up, or lie there and bleed
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Of course I've called in sick so I could ride. Or go shopping. Or do other things. Mental health is just as important as physical health. And I've had days at work where my boss has said "why don't you go ride your horse?" I'm very lucky in that I've had great bosses. And I'm glad I don't work for a company or a person that would fire me for calling in sick when I wasn't. It's not stealing--it's time that I have earned and that is owed me.
What about taking a sick day because you have to stay home with your sick child? Is that also wrong?Proud member of Appendix QH clique
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