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  • Hi here is a list and suggestions for horse owners to prepare for a hurricane

    http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

    I live near the shore in NJ so we are on watch too at this time.

    Save a horse swat a mosquito.

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    • I remember Hurricane Agnes in the 1970's. The rainfall was the worst cause of damage with severe flooding all through the mid-atlantic states. Many of the more mountianous areas were hit hard as the valleys flooded and bridges/roads were destroyed.

      Here in Woodbridge, the US Route 1 as well as the Rt 123 bridges collapsed into the Occoquan River.

      Agnes came through, then went out to sea, gathered strength and came back but, again, the damage was mostly due to the rainfall. If Isabel keeps up the wind strength by coming up the Chesapeake Bay, we will see much more in the way of power outages and wind damage.

      For comparison: The Life of Hurricane Agnes

      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>ADVANCES IN THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SINCE AGNES
      The National Weather Service has made great strides since the early 1970s in computer technology, data collection and warning services. Information from automated rain and stream gauges are now available to forecasters. In addition, many more gauges have been added to the data network.

      A national doppler radar network is in place to accurately track storms and estimate the precipitation they produce. Round-The-Clock satellite coverage is now available to all forecast offices, providing additional precipitation estimates. Additionally, forecasters can now disseminate warnings and advisories in real-time to Pennsylvania county emergency management officials via direct communication links.

      More recently, a new river forecast program is under development. The Advanced Hydrologic Prediction Services (AHPS) is a National Weather Service program designed to provide longer range hydrologic products including flood outlooks, drought products and water supply guidance. This improved capability builds on the traditional expertise and responsibility of the National Weather Service flood forecasting program, and will ultimately provide the public, emergency management agencies and water resource organizations with a wide suite of products. AHPS forecasts also provide information about forecast uncertainties which can be beneficial to the users. These longer range products will include probabilistic information mostly in graphical format to describe the likelihood of various hydrologic scenarios.

      If another storm like Agnes were to occur today, there would again be major flooding and property damage. However, it is likely that advances in forecasting and warning systems would help mitigate loss of life and property.
      <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>1972 June 21 - AGNES. Made landfall on the Gulf Coast of Florida. As the storm crossed Virginia, it dumped 13.6 inches of rain on the east slopes of the Blue Ridge Mountains. The James River crested at a record high in Richmond. Virginia sustained $222 million in damage, and 13 people died from flash flooding.

      <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>VA Dept of Emergency Management

      Friendship is Love without his wings
      -Lord Byron
      "If you would have only one day to live, you should spend at least half of it in the saddle."

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      • I remember Hurricane Agnes in the 1970's. The rainfall was the worst cause of damage with severe flooding all through the mid-atlantic states. Many of the more mountianous areas were hit hard as the valleys flooded and bridges/roads were destroyed.

        Here in Woodbridge, the US Route 1 as well as the Rt 123 bridges collapsed into the Occoquan River.

        Agnes came through, then went out to sea, gathered strength and came back but, again, the damage was mostly due to the rainfall. If Isabel keeps up the wind strength by coming up the Chesapeake Bay, we will see much more in the way of power outages and wind damage.

        For comparison: The Life of Hurricane Agnes

        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>ADVANCES IN THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SINCE AGNES
        The National Weather Service has made great strides since the early 1970s in computer technology, data collection and warning services. Information from automated rain and stream gauges are now available to forecasters. In addition, many more gauges have been added to the data network.

        A national doppler radar network is in place to accurately track storms and estimate the precipitation they produce. Round-The-Clock satellite coverage is now available to all forecast offices, providing additional precipitation estimates. Additionally, forecasters can now disseminate warnings and advisories in real-time to Pennsylvania county emergency management officials via direct communication links.

        More recently, a new river forecast program is under development. The Advanced Hydrologic Prediction Services (AHPS) is a National Weather Service program designed to provide longer range hydrologic products including flood outlooks, drought products and water supply guidance. This improved capability builds on the traditional expertise and responsibility of the National Weather Service flood forecasting program, and will ultimately provide the public, emergency management agencies and water resource organizations with a wide suite of products. AHPS forecasts also provide information about forecast uncertainties which can be beneficial to the users. These longer range products will include probabilistic information mostly in graphical format to describe the likelihood of various hydrologic scenarios.

        If another storm like Agnes were to occur today, there would again be major flooding and property damage. However, it is likely that advances in forecasting and warning systems would help mitigate loss of life and property.
        <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>1972 June 21 - AGNES. Made landfall on the Gulf Coast of Florida. As the storm crossed Virginia, it dumped 13.6 inches of rain on the east slopes of the Blue Ridge Mountains. The James River crested at a record high in Richmond. Virginia sustained $222 million in damage, and 13 people died from flash flooding.

        <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>VA Dept of Emergency Management

        Friendship is Love without his wings
        -Lord Byron
        "If you would have only one day to live, you should spend at least half of it in the saddle."

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        • I hope that Isabell weakens a lot and that those that are in it's path weather the storm well. According to the latest weather track model, we are directly in the path. We have decided that, because of the risk of flying objects (the pasture is surrounded by woods), the horses will be kept in.

          My stalls open directly into the pasture (think upgraded run-in shed), is it best to close both halves of the dutch doors?

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          • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

            My stalls open directly into the pasture (think upgraded run-in shed), is it best to close both halves of the dutch doors?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

            I posted the same question... No answer yet.

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            • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

              My stalls open directly into the pasture (think upgraded run-in shed), is it best to close both halves of the dutch doors?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

              I posted the same question... No answer yet.

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              • Yes, you defintely want to batten down the hatches. Close anything that is closable.

                I personally still think they are better off outside. I will find a link for you expounding on this.

                ''Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.''
                - Pablo Picasso
                'Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.'
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                • Those of you in Va and points north might find this whole discussion of interest.

                  http://forum.nchorsenews.com/topic.a...96&whichpage=2

                  ''Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.''
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                  • Bugs (and others) about shelter-- I think you have to look at your property and make individual decisions. How is it oriented with regards to direction of the wind off of the storm? Is it near a creek? Is it at the bottom of a hill? Can it withstand gusts of 60 or higher? Is there anything that will fall on it? Will it hold up a tree or really protect horses if something large hits it?
                    Yesterday I took a hard look at the barn where my boys live. It's an older bank barn with 2 acre paddocks and a few run-in sheds. I am still not sure what we will do as the storm approaches. Probably they will stay in since the barn is stronger than the run-ins. You have to make those hard calls on an individual farm basis. If mine stay in, it will be the first time they have in a hurricane situation. Before they have weathered it out under trees or a run-in. I always worry about roofs collapsing. Too much to think about.

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                    • For the dutch door stalls, a question. Do the stalls also have an inside door the horse can use? If so, I would shut and nail a couple of boards on each half, across the doors on the outside. Few door latches, especially older ones facing the wind, will hold the doors shut. Horses inside may also be banging at the doors. That makes a lot of strain on a door.

                      If this outside door is your only one to the stall, I would put a locking bar arrangement across the both door halves. Using a double bar, four total, keeps the upper and lower door edges from vibrating much and breaking apart. Maybe wire the cross board, to the holding brackets, during the storm. I would remove the brackets when the storm is over, to prevent horse getting caught on them. Large door handles, fixed solidly to barn, might allow a board to be slid in across the door during the storm itself.

                      Good luck all.

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                      • For the dutch door stalls, a question. Do the stalls also have an inside door the horse can use? If so, I would shut and nail a couple of boards on each half, across the doors on the outside. Few door latches, especially older ones facing the wind, will hold the doors shut. Horses inside may also be banging at the doors. That makes a lot of strain on a door.

                        If this outside door is your only one to the stall, I would put a locking bar arrangement across the both door halves. Using a double bar, four total, keeps the upper and lower door edges from vibrating much and breaking apart. Maybe wire the cross board, to the holding brackets, during the storm. I would remove the brackets when the storm is over, to prevent horse getting caught on them. Large door handles, fixed solidly to barn, might allow a board to be slid in across the door during the storm itself.

                        Good luck all.

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                        • If there is any chance of flooding, don't lock your horses in! Remember the ones that drowned about a year ago?

                          Here is a path map with Wind path projections It looks like hurricane force winds for most of us.

                          Friendship is Love without his wings
                          -Lord Byron
                          "If you would have only one day to live, you should spend at least half of it in the saddle."

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                          • OMG ETBW!!...WE lived in Quantico at the time, and i SOOOO remember Agnes. I was telling my kids that my best friend had to come live with us for like 2 weeks because of the flooding.

                            Our friend, Bud Devere used to own the Ocququan Frame shop, and I recall him telling that coffins were floating down the street from the torrential floods going thru the cemetarys or something like that (I was young).

                            That was a storm to be reckoned with, yet we rarely hear of it anymore when they discuss bad hurricanes.

                            Please PT me or email me, I bet we know some of the same people from riding....anyway, as a PNW'er, I will be saying my prayers for all of you back there in hopes that you and your horses are safe and sound. I wish I could offer some help.

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                            • Well gee, the projected path takes the darn thing right to my house. I have no horses to worry about now, but we probably will have to evacuate if it stays on the same path, and to make it more complicated, I have to go to an area that's safe, find a hotel that accepts pets, do all the driving since hubby is still recovering from ankle surgery, and be near a hospital with maternity and NICU since I'm at risk for preterm labor.

                              Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I
                              Just because I have a short attention span doesn\'t mean I

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                              • Well gee, the projected path takes the darn thing right to my house. I have no horses to worry about now, but we probably will have to evacuate if it stays on the same path, and to make it more complicated, I have to go to an area that's safe, find a hotel that accepts pets, do all the driving since hubby is still recovering from ankle surgery, and be near a hospital with maternity and NICU since I'm at risk for preterm labor.

                                Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I
                                Just because I have a short attention span doesn\'t mean I

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                                • Just saw the weather forecast and the storm could either go right up the Chesapeake or it could curve and head along the shoreline. In my case it would be much worse if it went up the Chesapeake. I'm not on the water, but being in Cecil County, I'm not really not that far from the bay. The weatherman said if it goes up the Chesapeake that Baltimore will see the worst of the storm. Good news is that it has weakened a little, but the forecaster said that it is possible for it to gain strength again. The weather channel forecast for our area listed rain & wind for Thursday & Friday (extended forecast-no real details)...doesn't sound too bad, but I think they're waiting till it's more solid where the path will be. The weather channel isn't the most reliable for our local forecast. If we need to make preparations...we need to be doing them now...not as the storm is hitting!!

                                  My guys have a run in shed & Squall & Remington's side has a stall front that we built into it. The other side has PVC pipes that I put across for feeding (short term confinement). I don't think it would hold them in if we're experiencing "scary" weather situations. If it's just raining hard I'd probably leave it open & let them make the choice. If I need to, I could probably get another stall front built for the other side.

                                  On the other hand...my run in is one of the amish built ones that is delivered to your property...it is very sturdy, but not anchored into the ground or set on a foundation. If the winds are heavy enough is there a posibility of it getting lifted up or moved, etc????

                                  We also have a tiny creek (usually only 1-3 inches deep) that runs through the bottom of our property. It isn't anwhere close to the horses, (the horses are uphill) but if we get torrential downpours it is amazing what will flood.

                                  I remember hearing stories about the flood that went through MD in the 70's (Agnes- I think). It just makes me a little nervous.

                                  If you look at my website the photo "Who's the new guy?!" (I think there is actually more than 1) gives you an idea of the stall front. (I don't have the plastic tarp up...that was for when it was so cold in mid-MAY that my newborn was shivering-- The weather has been crazy this year)

                                  MKB...

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                                  • Just saw the weather forecast and the storm could either go right up the Chesapeake or it could curve and head along the shoreline. In my case it would be much worse if it went up the Chesapeake. I'm not on the water, but being in Cecil County, I'm not really not that far from the bay. The weatherman said if it goes up the Chesapeake that Baltimore will see the worst of the storm. Good news is that it has weakened a little, but the forecaster said that it is possible for it to gain strength again. The weather channel forecast for our area listed rain & wind for Thursday & Friday (extended forecast-no real details)...doesn't sound too bad, but I think they're waiting till it's more solid where the path will be. The weather channel isn't the most reliable for our local forecast. If we need to make preparations...we need to be doing them now...not as the storm is hitting!!

                                    My guys have a run in shed & Squall & Remington's side has a stall front that we built into it. The other side has PVC pipes that I put across for feeding (short term confinement). I don't think it would hold them in if we're experiencing "scary" weather situations. If it's just raining hard I'd probably leave it open & let them make the choice. If I need to, I could probably get another stall front built for the other side.

                                    On the other hand...my run in is one of the amish built ones that is delivered to your property...it is very sturdy, but not anchored into the ground or set on a foundation. If the winds are heavy enough is there a posibility of it getting lifted up or moved, etc????

                                    We also have a tiny creek (usually only 1-3 inches deep) that runs through the bottom of our property. It isn't anwhere close to the horses, (the horses are uphill) but if we get torrential downpours it is amazing what will flood.

                                    I remember hearing stories about the flood that went through MD in the 70's (Agnes- I think). It just makes me a little nervous.

                                    If you look at my website the photo "Who's the new guy?!" (I think there is actually more than 1) gives you an idea of the stall front. (I don't have the plastic tarp up...that was for when it was so cold in mid-MAY that my newborn was shivering-- The weather has been crazy this year)

                                    MKB...

                                    http://www.leakycreek.com click on the photo to enter
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                                    http://leakycreek.wordpress.com/ Rainbows & Mourning Doves Blog
                                    John P. Smith II 1973-2009 Love Always
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                                    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Everythingbutwings:
                                      From http://www.hurricaneadvisories.com/trackmap2002big.gif

                                      Right up the Chesapeake Bay, past us, through Harrisburg and on to Toronto. Isn't it nice that we can all share?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                      TORONTO? You gotta be kidding me. We had "Hazel" in '55?, but I wasn't around for that. We've been hoping for some rain, but this is just ridiculous!

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                                      • Food safety tips for after a disaster

                                        I am getting extra shavings and a truck load of gravel today. Checking batteries and
                                        stocking up on gallons of water, too.

                                        Friendship is Love without his wings
                                        -Lord Byron
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                                        • Boy, this is all a very foreign concept for someone from the midwest. I think I prefer tornadoes... you don't have 5 days of anticipation!

                                          Does anyone know how you're supposed to find out if you're in an area that's in danger of flooding? I'm not on the coast, and my barn isn't near any streams or rivers of any significant size. Our indoor ring tends to flood when we get lots of rain, but that's the only problem I've seen at the farm.

                                          I'm assuming that our main concern here in VA/MD should be housing horses someplace safe during the storm (secure barn, not in danger of falling trees, etc.) and in being prepared for loss of electricity/drinking water afterwards, right?

                                          I'm going to offer my extra buckets and 5 gallon jugs to the barn owner today for water storage... hopefully she's thought about this already.

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