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  • Wearing helmet = disqualification

    I recently began riding my horse western after years of showing hunters. He prefers the western saddle due to a kissing spine. He is doing quite well at it, and I have done one show so far. I don't ride helmetless, so I of course stand out. But who cares, right? Wrong. I found an upcoming show with "ranch horse" classes that say the required attire includes a cowboy hat. My horse's way of going would have been great for these classes, but because I would choose to be safe I would automatically lose. Ugh...
    UPDATE: post#75 about show

    That said does anyone have ideas on how to make a cowboy hat helmet. The discontinued Troxel ten gallon helmet is probably worse than just wearing a helmet. In other western shows, I thought about blinging out my solid, black GR8 with maybe some small conchos, etc. Ideas?
    Last edited by VTHokie; Jan. 23, 2012, 11:47 PM.

  • #2
    I think I'd seen a cowboy hat helmet many years ago. Maybe it was in that video "Every Time Every Ride"?

    Aha! http://www.thehorsediary.com/12/cowb...tem-by-troxel/

    Paula
    He is total garbage! Quick! Hide him on my trailer (Petstorejunkie).

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    • #3
      Hmmm...
      Maybe bring your helmet to the store and find a big ol' mans cowboy hat that would fit over it?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by VTHokie View Post
        I found an upcoming show with "ranch horse" classes that say the required attire includes a cowboy hat. My horse's way of going would have been great for these classes, but because I would choose to be safe I would automatically lose. Ugh...
        Did you actually call the host office and ask if you could wear a helmet? If you need to, blame it on multiple past concussions. There should be no issue with you wearing a helmet, and it shouldn't affect your placings.

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        • #5
          Maybe buy a small English showing helmet ( like da Charles Owen jr8 or gr8) and cram a cowboy hat on top? I don't know if this would work...

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          • #6
            I would call and talk to them to be sure. Most places would allow an exception for helmets.
            It's not about the color of the ribbon but the quality of the ride. Having said that, I'd like the blue one please!

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              #7
              Originally posted by paulaedwina View Post
              I think I'd seen a cowboy hat helmet many years ago. Maybe it was in that video "Every Time Every Ride"?

              Aha! http://www.thehorsediary.com/12/cowb...tem-by-troxel/

              Paula
              Yeah, that's the one that was discontinued because it looks like a ten gallon hat and no one was buying it.

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              • #8
                Oh too bad.

                Paula
                He is total garbage! Quick! Hide him on my trailer (Petstorejunkie).

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by GoForAGallop View Post
                  Did you actually call the host office and ask if you could wear a helmet? If you need to, blame it on multiple past concussions. There should be no issue with you wearing a helmet, and it shouldn't affect your placings.
                  I won't be doing this particular show since they will most certainly hold it against me since they are so specific about looking "authentic". But still would like ways to look more western for shows where a helmet is okay although rare.

                  Below is from the rulebook:
                  EXHIBITORS ATTIRE: In all performance events and conformation classes, it is mandatory that all exhibitors wear traditional western attire
                  that reflects the true ranch lifestyle. Appropriate western attire includes a long sleeve shirt with collar (buttons or snaps are preferred), a western hat
                  and boots with heels. ARHA’s main focus is on the performance and ability of the horse and rider. Clothing with excessive crystals, glitter or sequins is not permitted.

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                  • #10
                    Umm--what is the governing body for this organization? Both USEF (of course) and AQHA mandate that riders must not be penalized for wearing a helmet. Doesn't meant the judge won't be prejudiced, but you should be allowed to show with one. Please check with show management and if necessary, with the governing body.

                    And let us know what you find out!

                    ETA--What rule book? What organization??
                    "One person's cowboy is another person's blooming idiot" -- katarine

                    Spay and neuter. Please.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by monstrpony View Post
                      Umm--what is the governing body for this organization? Both USEF (of course) and AQHA mandate that riders must not be penalized for wearing a helmet. Doesn't meant the judge won't be prejudiced, but you should be allowed to show with one. Please check with show management and if necessary, with the governing body.

                      And let us know what you find out!

                      ETA--What rule book? What organization??
                      It is a reining association. They are having a show with a simultaneously run schooling show with the ranch horse classes.

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                      • #12
                        Perhaps you could contact the association after the show and explain why you did not attend. Suggest that the class rules be changed for next time to allow helmets. After all, a concussion and/or a traumatic brain injury would certainly interfere with the "ability of...the rider" that, according to the rule is the main focus of the class.

                        Personally, I think it's an unfortunately worded rule that needs to change, and if people thought about, they might have worded it differently. If I were involved with the organization, I'd be worried about liability issues if someone were injured in a class where helmets were prohibited.
                        It's 2017. Do you know where your old horse is?

                        www.streamhorsetv.com -- website with horse show livestream listings and links.

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                        • #13
                          From the American Ranch Horse Association rule book, pg 29:

                          11. GENERAL WEARING APPAREL: In all performance
                          events and conformation, it is mandatory to wear
                          appropriate western attire including long sleeve shirt with
                          collar, western hat and western boots with heel. The use of
                          spurs, chaps, chinks and hard hats are optional.

                          Look up the ARHA on line, you can find their rule book, and show it to show management. Reining should be under AQHA, and they have a similar statement in their rules.

                          Even a schooling show should follow ARHA rules if they're serious about ranch horse classes.
                          "One person's cowboy is another person's blooming idiot" -- katarine

                          Spay and neuter. Please.

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                          • #14
                            where in NC are you located?

                            If you are out east there is a show circuit that runs out of the Martin County ag center that has working western classes and I think they allow helmets

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                            • #15
                              The National Reining Horse Association allows helmets:

                              It is mandatory for all riders to use appropriate western tack
                              and western attire while showing; this would include a long sleeveshirt, western hat or safety helmet, boots, western saddle, and western bridle.

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                              • #16
                                11. GENERAL WEARING APPAREL: In all performance
                                events and conformation, it is mandatory to wear
                                appropriate western attire including long sleeve shirt with
                                collar, western hat and western boots with heel. The use of
                                spurs, chaps, chinks and hard hats are optional.


                                Hard hats=helmet?

                                Paula
                                He is total garbage! Quick! Hide him on my trailer (Petstorejunkie).

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by paulaedwina View Post
                                  11. GENERAL WEARING APPAREL: In all performance
                                  events and conformation, it is mandatory to wear
                                  appropriate western attire including long sleeve shirt with
                                  collar, western hat and western boots with heel. The use of
                                  spurs, chaps, chinks and hard hats are optional.


                                  Hard hats=helmet?

                                  Paula
                                  Yes.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by VTHokie View Post

                                    Below is from the rulebook:
                                    EXHIBITORS ATTIRE: In all performance events and conformation classes, it is mandatory that all exhibitors wear traditional western attire
                                    that reflects the true ranch lifestyle. Appropriate western attire includes a long sleeve shirt with collar (buttons or snaps are preferred), a western hat
                                    and boots with heels. .
                                    and a gun I guess, now does it have to be loaded? need a big knife too

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                                    • #19
                                      Are you showing for the prizes/ribbons or to have fun with your horse?

                                      If it was me I wouldn't care I would still wear my helmet and go out and have fun with my horse. The only think that would be my stop is money. Am I going to have fun and can I afford to do the show.
                                      My life motto now is "You can't fix stupid!"

                                      Are you going to cowboy up, or lie there and bleed

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                                      • #20
                                        These are fairly western styled
                                        http://www.troxelhelmets.com/category/western
                                        I ride in this one, and they are quite comfortable - look better in person too!
                                        Dee
                                        Founder of the I LOFF my worrywart TB clique!
                                        Official member of the "I Sing Silly Songs to My Animals!" Clique
                                        http://wilddiamondintherough.blogspot.ca/

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