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  • blackstallion2
    started a topic "Fat rider" discussion

    "Fat rider" discussion

    A timely and provocative topic, especially after the holiday. Have you been the victim of overweight rider hate, or do you fall on the other side of the issue, believing that overweight riders are fair game for criticism, regardless of ability?

    http://www.eighteenhands.com/2012/01...o-little-time/

  • Moderator 1
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    Think it's time to put this one to rest...

    Thanks!
    Mod 1

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  • analise
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    candyappy,

    You don't seem to understand that it's not" public opinion". It's a fact, whether you agree with it or not.

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  • arabhorse2
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    Originally posted by katarine View Post
    If you have a fat gay horse that likes Parelli, you're really screwed


    Shunnnnn!!!!

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  • oldernewbie
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    Originally posted by candyappy View Post
    I am saying that people are not born gay with no choice in the matter. I don't agree with it. Are we influenced by others and circumstances in our lives ? Yes. But the way we live is our choice. Drugs, booze, smoking, sex life, food, whatever ,we are the ones who choose what we do with our lives.
    As a person with several close gay/lesbian family members, I can assure you that they all were born the way they were. Choice had nothing to do with it.

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  • katarine
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    If you have a fat gay horse that likes Parelli, you're really screwed

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  • Fairview Horse Center
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    I am still overweight at 179 lbs (YEA!!!) anf 5'6" but as of January 2010, I was 340. Yes, 3-4-0 Yes, 52-54 year old people can lose, actually fast. I lost 130 lbs in the first 10 months eating about 1800 calories a day.

    I still intend to lose 40 lbs, but have dropped to 1500 calories. I have not gotten back on a horse yet - had not really ridden for 25+ years. I am not dieting, but I am counting calories daily on Livestrong My Plate.

    I have lots of tricks, and finding a new normal has been pretty easy, but time consuming. I figure I am worth it. I eat a LOT of yummy food, including hamburgers, hot dogs, bacon/eggs/hash browns, and pizza, weekly. I eat about 6 meals plus a 100 calorie late night snack daily.

    I am waiting to ride as I do not want to invest in boots yet, and can't ride without them.

    I have always been very active - even at 340, running a 35 horse barn, and often cleaning 30 stalls myself, turning in and out the horses, etc.

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  • candyappy
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    Originally posted by suz View Post
    so candyapp, tell me again when you chose to be straight?
    Are you "gay" and I offended you because you are unhappy and feel you had no choice in the matter? I was commenting about the article in the first post. I don't happen to agree with public opinion on the matter of " being wired that way at birth". Why is it such a problem for you guys? Just move on already.

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  • arabhorse2
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    Now Lex, you HAD to know that was going to happen!

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  • LexInVA
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    This thread has gone off the rails.

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  • moonriverfarm
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    I was born straight. I have chosen romantic partners based on that fact. A gay person is born gay. IF they choose companionship and affection, they choose it from a person of their own sex. Who in this world does not need affection and love? Just because they were born gay they should not love and be loved?????? And whoever thinks a person would CHOOSE to be made fun of, shunned, whispered about, and ostracized needs to rethink that notion.
    I am female, I am not transgendered because I am happy as a female. I am straight, I am not gay because I am attracted to men. I did not choose either, that's just how the good Lord made me. The same Lord who loves us all. And I choose to be a Christian despite the jabs and innuendo of others.

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  • yellow-horse
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    I'm not gay but I am fat, I thought I'd get that over with first. I was fat as a teen, lost weight and became rather slim and trim for about 30 years at 105 and 5'2". I am now over 60, 5'1" for some reason and 140, I was 160, I've lost weight, I felt better at 105.
    I gained weight when I hit menopause and I also stopped competing and working days as a BM and nights as a nurse, I bought my own place and no longer do 12 stalls a day, I've made my place so easy I don't do stalls, the hardest thing I do on a daily basis is open a gate.
    I started going to a gym 5 days a week in order to get fit enough to ride right again, I have been puttering around on horses for the past 10 years, I met a woman I'd like to take lessons with so am spending the winter trying to at least get fitter if not drop another 20lbs.I don't feel fit enough to take lessons, not so much because of weight but carrying around extra weight and being out of shape is not making me graceful on horseback.
    I have to tell you about my daughter, she has been obese since a child, it is my fault, she became an obese adult, she was over 300 lbs when she was pregnant and had high blood pressure and became type 2 diabetes. 2 years ago she had a health scare and was worried she would not live long enough to raise her son, she became a vegan and changed her entire life, she lost 150lbs, she is off her 4 diabetic meds and off her bp and cholesterol meds, she is off all her meds. Her endo guy was the one who encouraged her to go vegan but he was stunned as she actually not only changed her diet but her lifestyle, she only has to see him once a year for hgba1c's and she still monitors her blood sugars. She was obese for 30 years with wild weight fluctuations from dieting but no weight loss lasted more than a few months, this change she has made is life changing, it is how she lives now, she is happy, her husband who was 400+ lbs is now 250lbs, he's 6'4", she's 5'7". They look and feel great, she's training for a strong man {women?} contest. I mention her because I am proud of her but also because I saw how hard this was over 30 years for her to make a huge change. I would not say her struggles were a choice, she really could not lose weight by just limiting calories, she had to go full out vegan for her weight loss to be stable, so I have to think there is something about maybe her early food habits and diet and something else intrinsic to her that makes eating what is considered a normal american diet impossible for her.

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  • analise
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    paintball,

    That's totally true. I have a friend who used to live in South America (Brazil) and she said it was a major change for her system when she moved back to the States. And then she turned out to be sensitive to corn (which wasn't a problem in Brazil) but became a huge problem for her here in the US because EVERYTHING has corn syrup in it. Plus it took her and the doctors forever to figure out that's why she felt ill all the time.

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  • paintball
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    SOMETHING is up with the food in this country. I arrived in March and within only one month(!) I gained 10-15 pounds (135 to 148). I was eating the same as I had been back home (Aus), working out and riding my bike everywhere.

    So I was puzzled, and kinda frustrated. I started working out harder, I've never worked this hard at the gym in my whole life. I reduced my portions, tried to eat less snacks. The result - I lost maybe 2 pounds. A little of the gain is muscle, but not that much.

    I started reading food labels (I don't eat fast food), and OMG there is sugar in everything!! And most of it is corn syrup, which I know doesn't affect the body like sucrose does. HFCS is not generally used in Aus (probably because of the sugar cane industry, haha) so I'm wondering if that's the difference.

    To anyone trying to lose weight, you have my total sympathy, because I know how hard it is possible to work and still not lose weight. All I can suggest is trying to stay away from sugar - but it's everywhere!

    Also, FWIW - the BEST rider I ever saw (and he was doing showjumping) was easily 230 pounds, he had big big shoulders but rode SO lightly. So sure, balance is really the issue, not weight.

    And! To the people with tall daughters, get them into volleyball or basketball! I never felt short (at 5'8) til I started playing volleyball, height is such a wonderful advantage.

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  • Opus1
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    - I was eating Taco Bell while reading the past 6 pages. Those cheap-ass tacos have never tasted better. (And yeah, I'm fat.)

    - The cinnamon-melt things from McD's sound fabulous. I may have to try them now. Thanks, meupatdoes(?)! I think.

    Originally posted by paulaedwina View Post
    Ermm...yeah....well I'm having this problem from a mounting block. I really need a "mortified" icon. Sorry, don't mean to hijack the thread, but the trend is quite alarming.

    Paula
    Y'know, I was pretty good with mounting for a good, long while this past year. And then, one day, maybe in December? I started to doubt myself. Now suddenly, I'm struggling when I mount. I think I'm just over thinking it and letting my head get in the way. (I'm about your size, give or take. And the horses I ride are 17'2h)

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  • arabhorse2
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    Originally posted by candyappy View Post
    I am saying that people are not born gay with no choice in the matter.
    So you CHOSE to be heterosexual when you were just a fertilized egg?

    Yeah, I'm not thinking that's how it happened.

    Let me guess, you consider yourself a 'good' Christian, too.

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  • suz
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    so candyapp, tell me again when you chose to be straight?

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  • candyappy
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    Originally posted by Moesha View Post
    I'm not sure what you are saying no too? It is proven that a person's environment and many factors like heredity come into play in regards to a person's health. There are major factors that do also inlfuence communities as well which are socio-economic in nature and can therefore be seen as a problem within a race or group of people.

    And as far as sexuality, people are born with sexual preference, obviously as as person grows this develops, into adult sexuality but people do not just choose to be gay or straight.

    So again not sure what you are saying "Sorry no" too.
    I am saying that people are not born gay with no choice in the matter. I don't agree with it. Are we influenced by others and circumstances in our lives ? Yes. But the way we live is our choice. Drugs, booze, smoking, sex life, food, whatever ,we are the ones who choose what we do with our lives.

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  • Moesha
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    Originally posted by candyappy View Post
    I didn't call it a disease? What people do in their sex life is their choice. Just like for most people being overweight is their choice.
    Of course grown Adults do make their own sexual decisions, that is true, but sexual preference is inherent , while anyone can choose to experiement or do what they want, sex is sex and there is no rule you have to be attracted in anyway to who you are with,but as far as sexual preference goes people are born gay or straight. That is not a choice.

    There are certain societal norms in any group of people and some groups do have overall charcteristics, when it comes, to income levels, health, money decisions, housing choices, etc...

    While there are certainly many people who through bad habits choose to not excercise or not stay in shape, there are many who struggle horribly and are in misery and turmoil with themselves over their weight issues.

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  • candyappy
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    Originally posted by arabhorse2 View Post
    Sorry, but YES.

    You must be one of those people who think gays choose to be gay, and that it's 'curable'. It ain't a disease, sweetie.

    I didn't call it a disease? What people do in their sex life is their choice. Just like for most people being overweight is their choice.

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