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  • #41
    Originally posted by Oberon13 View Post


    Oh, Tamara...this was me in junior high (though I stopped at 5'9'')...I feel for your daughter. I wish she could see how fantastic it is to be tall and athletic and strong.

    Keep her on her horses, as I know you will if you can. I just wanted to throw some encouraging vibes out there for her.
    it IS heartbreaking...she is a beautiful person physically and inside herself and she just sees "fat" because she is so tall...

    she did get a happy boost when we went skiing with my baby sister and she was taller than her Tante Ka...it was like "wow I am being a grown up" and she asked why the Christmas tree was so much shorter...I said "Silly you are 4 inches taller"

    so the horses are the equalizers for her...

    Tamara
    Production Acres,Pro A Welsh Cobs
    I am one of the last 210,000 remaining full time farmers in America.We feed the others.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by candyappy View Post
      The article was off in the part where it lumps religion, sexual orientation, and being fat to be the same as race. You can't choose your race, but the other things are all by a persons doing. People choose their religion, choose who to be with and this applies also to weight. You choose what and how you eat. If I feel my clothes getting tight I lay off the foods I know are causing it and make sure to exercise a bit more. That is my choice and my horses are thankful. Is it hard to maintain my weight? Sure. It is a discipline, just like riding is. We keep our horses fit and know how obesity effects them, but we don't apply it to ourselves. We should for our own good and for our horses. That being said, I have more important things to do than criticize a fellow rider about their weight. I gained 40 pounds with each child and know the struggle of getting that off ( 3 times). I know for many people weight is a life long struggle and they do the best they can. It shouldn't keep them from riding.
      While the lifestyles we lead both by choice and not do effect our health, a person's sexual orientation is like race, people are born with their sexual identities.
      "All life is precious"
      Sophie Scholl

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      • #43
        Having lost 100 lbs + over the last several years, I can tell you that judging a person soley by their current size is ridiculous, especially if the attitude is that they are fat, don't do anything, eat everything, etc. It's impossible to say what that person is going thru. Heck, they could be down 200 lbs - unless you ask you don't have a clue. As long as their horse (and mine) is appropriately sized, I don't see the deal.

        I still have about 40 lbs to go - and yet my gelding comes running into the barn when I call him. I don't think he minds the riding so much...

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Sport View Post
          I find this very judgemental.

          Obesity is a health condition that can be seen and obviously judged or this topic wouldn't be here.

          Do you judge people who smoke in the same manner, or someone with high blood pressure or high cholesteral? All CAN be a result of life choices. However not so horrible to look at.

          In a very small number of people obesity might be medical, but sadly in our " i am a victim" society we refuse to take responsibility for what/ how much we put into our bodies. Smokers too- made the choice to smoke and as a result are addicted to nicotine. I see an alarming number of teens / 20's who have a ring of flab around their middle who would otherwise be a healthy looking person. I think it all comes down to crappy food and no exercise and that is all choice.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Moesha View Post
            While the lifestyles we lead both by choice and not do effect our health, a person's sexual orientation is like race, people are born with their sexual identities.


            Sorry, no.

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              #46
              Are there people out there who really think that some people "choose" to be fat? Really? That might explain the vitriol...

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              • #47
                Timely and provocative? Hardly...this ground has been covered multiple times..It is just another lets bash the fat people thread..

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                • #48
                  You know what, if you are out and see someone you feel is too fat or out of shape or weak to ride, then say something to THEM. Put it out there. Coming here and complaining about fat people doesn't help their horses.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by candyappy View Post
                    Sorry, no.
                    Sorry, but YES.

                    You must be one of those people who think gays choose to be gay, and that it's 'curable'. It ain't a disease, sweetie.
                    Homeopathy claims water can cure you since it once held medicine. That's like saying you can get sustenance from an empty plate because it once held food.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Tamara in TN View Post
                      I'm 140lbs and 5'6
                      my Middle child is 13yos and 5'9 at least and 170 lbs

                      she is well on to meeting and matching her daddy's 6'1 (plus a bit) height
                      she may surpass him soon....

                      and she cries about how tall and fat she is :< because everyone in her class is many inches smaller than her

                      I keep trying to tell her that 6 foot tall athletic women with legs like gazelles do not weight 105 lbs...she just cries...

                      only on horseback is she confident and happy about her size...then she is just a kid on a horse

                      Tamara
                      My DD is also like yur daughter. At 19 she stands 6ft1 and always felt too heavy and too tall. She also has a thick skeleton so will never be a skinny person no matter how much weight she were to lose. (to me she is the proper weight for her height).She also wears a DD bra (poor kid).She has a 17h horse and looks great on her. The saddle fitter watched her ride and said that she had a very light seat for a larger rider. Her horse does not seem to suffer either.

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                      • #51
                        Originally posted by arabhorse2 View Post
                        Sorry, but YES.

                        You must be one of those people who think gays choose to be gay, and that it's 'curable'. It ain't a disease, sweetie.
                        Thank you. Took the words right out of my mouth.
                        Yogurt - If you're so cultured, how come I never see you at the opera? Steven Colbert

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                        • #52
                          You're welcome, Mtn.

                          I really dislike when someone claims that being gay is a choice. Oh sure, someone is going to CHOOSE to be belittled, harassed, treated like crap, or even killed for their sexual orientation. Sure sounds like a delightful choice, doesn't it?

                          For the record, I'm a rampant heterosexual. My orientation was set genetically, just like every other person's.

                          Now back to your regularly scheduled trainwreck about how fat people shouldn't be allowed to ride.
                          Homeopathy claims water can cure you since it once held medicine. That's like saying you can get sustenance from an empty plate because it once held food.

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                          • #53
                            Originally posted by blackstallion2 View Post
                            Are there people out there who really think that some people "choose" to be fat? Really? That might explain the vitriol...
                            Yes, many people do "choose" to be fat but it's not a simple matter of choice like electronic voting is. It's choice after choice after choice in how they live that makes those people overweight and unhealthy. Nobody shoved five Fraps a week down their throats or made them eat McDonalds on a regular basis with a gun held to their head.
                            Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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                            • #54
                              Oh dear...RUN Lex...run!!!!!
                              You jump in the saddle,
                              Hold onto the bridle!
                              Jump in the line!
                              ...Belefonte

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                              • #55
                                Some people ARE too fat to ride.

                                What is so hard to comprehend about that?

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                                • #56
                                  Originally posted by MistyBlue View Post
                                  Oh dear...RUN Lex...run!!!!!
                                  I am here to chew bubblegum and kick some ass. Fortunately, I have sugar-free bubblegum.
                                  Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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                                  • #57
                                    Originally posted by katarine View Post
                                    Some people ARE too fat to ride.

                                    What is so hard to comprehend about that?
                                    I think that's really easy to comprehend.

                                    What I can't comprehend:

                                    (a) what the frequently recurring threads about weight are supposed to accomplish,

                                    (b) why it is anyone's business besides the rider's and his or her trainer's -- do you TRULY see this as horse "abuse"? The type you feel you have to take action on? Or does it just cause you to feel superior? And does it occur frequently enough in your life for you to need to form a policy about it ("my treatise on appropriate actions to take upon encountering abusive fat riders")?

                                    (c) why I open the threads.


                                    P.S. The "you" I used above is the global "you" not the katarine "you".
                                    Shall I tell you what I find beautiful about you? You are at your very best when things are worst.
                                    Starman

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                                    • #58
                                      I'm with you, JoZ. I do see peeps on horses they are too big for, and the horse is struggling, and no, I don't say a thing. What am I going to do, walk up and pull them off? One was a gal at a horse camp on a cute TWH. The mare was sagging under the weight, she had trouble with the weight. But as I told my DH, the only short term fix is to write a check, and I'm not buying that horse.

                                      What else ya gonna do? Ya, the universal ya. Cousin of y'all.

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                                      • #59
                                        Originally posted by JoZ View Post
                                        I think that's really easy to comprehend.

                                        What I can't comprehend:

                                        (a) what the frequently recurring threads about weight are supposed to accomplish,

                                        (b) why it is anyone's business besides the rider's and his or her trainer's -- do you TRULY see this as horse "abuse"? The type you feel you have to take action on? Or does it just cause you to feel superior? And does it occur frequently enough in your life for you to need to form a policy about it ("my treatise on appropriate actions to take upon encountering abusive fat riders")?

                                        (c) why I open the threads.


                                        P.S. The "you" I used above is the global "you" not the katarine "you".
                                        You do know this is "The Internet", right?
                                        Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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                                        • #60
                                          Originally posted by LexInVA View Post
                                          I am here to chew bubblegum and kick some ass. Fortunately, I have sugar-free bubblegum.
                                          Can I have some?
                                          Rebel Without Cash!

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