• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Which of the Olympic disciplines fetches the highest average horse prices?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #41
    No way Reining would have the highest priced horses. Because a sound, slightly green, low level, QH Reiner with good conformation would be a LOT less expensive then a similar WB jumper or dressage horse.
    Proud owner of Finger Lakes' Finest Devilshire.

    Comment


    • #42
      Show jumping does seem to be the money sport.
      Horse Show Names Free name website with over 6200 names. Want to add? PM me!

      Comment


      • #43
        1
        Last edited by smokygirl; Jan. 2, 2012, 01:45 AM.
        "Sadly, some people's greatest skill, is being an idiot". (facebook profile pic I saw).

        Comment


        • #44
          Originally posted by 7HL View Post
          You're right, we, those that ride western, should all just leave.

          As far as COTH being publish, I venture to say better then 50% on here do not have a subscription to COTH.

          Geesh, touchy much? All I meant is that the general readers/person interested in COTH doesn't ride western primarily and since the focus of the magazine is not western, they're unlikely to have a western forum. Perhaps Western Horseman has a dressage forum??

          I was not saying that western riders should just go away. I've done cutting, a little reining, WP back in the day (of the "up in the bridle, arched neck/braided reins and romel era), H/J, lots of trail, eventing, and dressage. But I would classify myself as an "english" or "former eventer" or "dressage" rider and I don't own a western saddle. Had to borrow one to pony my youngster a couple of years ago!

          Comment


          • #45
            For those of you questioning the amount of prize money available to reiners, currently there are 14 riders who have earned over $1 million in prize money, 4 who have earned over $2 million in prize money, and one who has earned over $3 million and $4 million. There are 22 stallions who have sired offspring who have won over $1 million, 9 who have sired offspring who have earned over $2 million, 7 who have sired offspring who have earned over $3 million, 3 who have sired offspring who have earned over $4 million, 3 who have sired offspring who have earned over $5 million, 2 who have sired offspring who have earned over $6 million, and 1 who has sired offspring who have earned over $7 million and $8 million.

            Anyway you look at it, that's some serious prize money being offered. The NRHA is proud of these achievements and posts these lists on their website.
            Friends don't let friends ride junk!

            Comment


            • #46
              Originally posted by Dana View Post
              For those of you questioning the amount of prize money available to reiners,
              No one is questioning that there is some decent prize money available to Reiners. What is being questioned is anyone who thinks Reining is a bigger sport than showjumping. It isn't, quite simply. It doesn't have the kind of money SJ has at the top end and is confined to mostly one country (it is very much a tiny minority sport, even among horse sports, outside of North America.... and no, don't go telling me about some Italian winning a big competition, or Anky riding at the WEG, it's still a tiny sport outside of NA.

              currently there are 14 riders who have earned over $1 million in prize money, 4 who have earned over $2 million in prize money, and one who has earned over $3 million and $4 million.
              Those are lifetime earnings.
              Just to give you a bit of perspective... Eric Lamaze has earned about $2.5m at just Spruce meadows alone... That's just one venue... That doesn't take into account the other 48 weeks of the year when he is riding around the world, for the last 20 odd years that he has riding.
              Rodrigo Pessoa has somewhere in the region of €7m (that's like $10m). Add in the Beerbaum, Tops, Bengtsson etc etc, they would be all in the same neighborhood. If you are talking about riders with more than $1m lifetime, there's probably dozens and dozens of those.


              There are 22 stallions who have sired offspring who have won over $1 million, 9 who have sired offspring who have earned over $2 million, 7 who have sired offspring who have earned over $3 million, 3 who have sired offspring who have earned over $4 million, 3 who have sired offspring who have earned over $5 million, 2 who have sired offspring who have earned over $6 million, and 1 who has sired offspring who have earned over $7 million and $8 million.
              Go look up what the top WB sires have in progeny earnings.

              Comment


              • #47
                I'm not arguing the fact that SJ probably has, consistently, the most high-dollar horses. I was just pointing out that there is a lot of money in the reining now, and more and more countries are becoming involved in the sport.

                As you mentioned, the Italians are all over it. If you go to one of the big futurities/derbies, there are tons of foreigners here buying horses and shipping them overseas. There is a large quarantine facility here in Oklahoma that we've used when importing WBs. The bulk of their business is shipping reiners overseas.

                Dana
                Friends don't let friends ride junk!

                Comment


                • #48
                  So what's the average price range for these reining horses that are going to Europe?

                  Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

                  Comment


                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Foxtrot's View Post
                    Reiners ? I had no idea they were so valuable. But their careers are relaltively short, are they not?
                    Friend's reining horse is one of the top non-pro horses in the country, showed at the worlds in OK City. He's 13. Been doing this since he was ? very young, was bred for it.

                    She says that the pro trainer/rider/breeders do move their horses along to compete at the top levels at a very young age, to grab the money prizes offered for 2yo's and the like. They retire early to breeding. The racehorse model, as it were. Like racing it's not because that is their capability or even what's best for the horse physically, but because that's where the prize money is.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X