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Update - Anyone with a herniated disk? when did you start riding again?

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  • #21
    I herniated L4/L5 in February. narcotics didn't touch the pain and I was bedridden for a month until I found pregabalin ( Lyrica) I have 4 more discs bulging according to my MRI and so much spinal arthritis that the doctors feel its a miracle I am walking at all. I spent an hour or two in the pool everyday from June until November.
    The docs don't want me to ride and despite doing pilates and walking 2 hours a day and using resistance tubing to build core strength, my spine still feels unstable when I ride. My horse stopped suddenly and jarred my spine the other day- not nice!

    However, I went from almost complete paralysis of my lower left leg and foot, and numbness from the sole of my foot up the side and back of my leg, to having complete recovery of the muscle function and return of sensation by the time I'd been swimming for 2 months. The neurologist was amazed, since he'd figured these things were permanent after 4 months of no real improvement. The pool did it. NON weight bearing exercise, lengthening the spine.

    I researched the surgery option and consulted a neurosurgeon. Surprisingly, he (the man with the knife) told me it wasn't worth having surgery because of the long term results- if you have one discectomy, the odds are you'll have a second within 5 years. And the results in terms of residual pain and loss of function, at 5 year follow up, are about the same for those who have the surgery as for those who elect not to be cut. So I figure its less risky not to have surgery, if the results are about the same. Your results may vary, especially if you live in the USA where surgery is a big, for profit business.
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    • #22
      I have a "partial" herniation / bulging of my L5 for years. I say "partial" because it is not herniated enough! to be considered a full herniation by the doctor who reviewed the MRI. Even though I have to take daily Baclofen (think that is the spelling) for the muscle spasms it causes and the pain, and when I am riding if I haven't taken my muscle relaxer for my am, noon, and pm doeses for a few days and wear a lidocain patch for the sciatic nerve I am in so much pain I twist my body to the left, drop my left shoulder and jut my right hip forward. I will say it is better when I am able to stay active with doing my stretches, band work, and force myself to ride straight (my horse who thinks he is suppose to leg yeild or half pass when I am tweaked prefers when I am straight too!)

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      • #23
        ruptured disc in October 2007, could NOT live with the pain. had a "Micro Discectomy" in December 2007. It was outpatient surgery. I had the absolute best Neuro surgeon you can get.

        I walked out of recovery feeling better than i had felt my entire life. BUT, followed the recovery directions to the letter. Been riding (getting bucked off on occasion) with no problems at all

        after the surgery it still took about 6 months for me to totally trust it again though. but, I had my surgery in the winter, so it wasnt so bad

        get a GOOD Neuro, and get it taken care of properly. this is who I got. the man is a miracle worker

        http://www.healthgrades.com/physicia...les-bill-y2dy7

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        • #24
          Very nice info......thanks to all.....I always remember these valuable information that is most helpful during the herniated disk problem.

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          • #25
            Another herniated disc at L4 here. I also have arthritis in my spine between the lowest 4 vertebrae and chronic recurring inflamation in my SI joint. I ignored increasingly bad back pain for years until it go to the point I was limping frequently and it was really affecting my ability to ride (my right leg was weak and I had a terrible time trying to follow with my arms at the canter). Finally in my mid-30s I went to doctors to get diagnosed and was told I was likely too young for a disc problem, but had exrays and MRI to be thorough. Sure enough, herniated disc, arthritis, and SI inflamation. For anyone suspecting they may have a problem, be persistent if necessary with your doctor. I have a very high pain threshold, so I think my nonchalance about the pain was misleading to my doctor, and the fact that I continued doing most of my normal activities through sheer stubbornness.

            After seeing a neurologist and starting to work with a pain management clinic, I started on an oral pain killer, muscle relaxant, and a pain patch that I wore 12 hours per day for a few months. The neurologist recommended against surgery in my case- said he prefers not to do that unless all other options have been exhausted. I also started PT at that time- love the electrical stimulation machine! Fabulous for spasms.

            I took about 6 weeks off of riding after the diagnosis, then started back just walking and trotting when I started to feel a little better (cantering bothered me and jumping killed me). I ultimately decided to get joint injections for the arthritis on the recommendation of my doctor at the pain clinic. I didn't ride again for about 2 weeks after the joint injections. The first 7 days or so following the injections were awful- pain was much worse and I was afraid I had done the wrong thing. Then, a miracle occurred and I felt better than I could remember. I realized I had been in pain so long I didn't know what it was like to be normal. The only thing I still can't do that I used to enjoy is jogging. I've tried a couple of times and it feels fine when I am doing it, but I have pain for a while after.

            If anyone recommends injections and you are on the fence, I vote give it a try. It is not a pleasant experience, but I think without the injections I would only have been able to continue riding on the flat- I wouldn't be able to jump.

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              #26
              Thanks for all the encouragement.

              This past weekend was KILLER for me - I just laid in bed popping vicodin every 4 hours - sleeping or not. Eventually couldnt take it anymore and went to the ER Sunday evening and got some IV pain meds and stronger narcotics and strong muscle relaxants (valium - my new best friend). The new drugs help alot. Also been going to PT and they are using a special tape on my back that helps reduce the load on the muscles which is helping alot also. I'm not in constant severe pain anymore like I was over the weekend and I dont need to take as many pills. Got my MRI on Tuesday and hopefully will have the results tomorrow at my doctor's appointment.
              Originally posted by Sithly
              do NOT give your 5 year old child a big bag of apples and send her out alone into a herd of 20-some horses to get mobbed. There are better ways to dispose of unwanted children.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by M. Owen View Post
                If anyone recommends injections and you are on the fence, I vote give it a try. It is not a pleasant experience, but I think without the injections I would only have been able to continue riding on the flat- I wouldn't be able to jump.

                Can I ask how often you will have to have injections?



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                • #28
                  Herniated between L5 and S1 and had surgery to repair it in Jan 2009.

                  Prior to the herniation, I'd had years of intermittent siatic pain, lower back muscle spasms, and core weakness (I literally could not complete the sit up motion). Before surgery I was on large doses of valium to keep the muscle spasms and siatic pain at bay, and I could move my toes, but couldn't feel them.

                  I woke up pain free from surgery, and the muscle spasms were gone. It took about six weeks to get feeling back in my feet. I could handle about 30 minutes at a walk on the back of a horse by that October...but it would still take a few hours of laying flat on my back to recover from that short ride. Oh, and I could bend over and touch my toes again! I figured it had been about 5 years since I could accomplish that.

                  By Jan 2010 (one year post op) I was able to handle a 30-45 min ride (mostly walking but 5-10 min at all gaits)...but still needed some down time afterwards to keep the tired and sore muscles from spasming from overwork. I only had a retired arthritic gelding to ride, so the light work was ok for both of us.

                  What helped me recover the most was getting fit and strong outside of riding. I started running 5k's and focusing on core strengthining yoga excercises in the spring of 2010, and feel it helped me greater then anything else.

                  This year I ran a half marathon, and rescued a pony. I am finding I have NO residual pain from my back in any thing do. I have no more weakness or sorenesss, and feel I have an entirely new lease on life!

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                    #29
                    12 mm disc herniation at L5-S1 and disc protrusion L4-L5. Been referred to a spine specialist. But my orthopedic doctor says no working out except swimming. Hopefully I can get into the spine doctor after christmas.
                    Originally posted by Sithly
                    do NOT give your 5 year old child a big bag of apples and send her out alone into a herd of 20-some horses to get mobbed. There are better ways to dispose of unwanted children.

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                    • #30
                      I always feel better after I know what I'm dealing with, injury-wise. Now, you have a clear diagnosis, and hopefully your pain is manageable for the time being. See the spine specialist (neuro or ortho?) and see what the plan is.

                      I am so grateful that riding was the one activity that did not hurt, well, that and lying down flat or standing very, very straight and still! My surgery was so easy and so successful and your diagnosis sounds very much like mine.

                      Good luck! and Merry Christmas. This too shall pass, you will get better, and we'll hold your hand through the whole thing, promise
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                      • #31
                        Did mine in labor with my daughter, and also ended up with an unstable SI postpartum.

                        I thought I was being a hypochondriac (don't ask, it's an ongoing mental defect) so I tried ignoring it. (That same strategy worked out when I destroyed my ACL, so you would think I would have learned something.) Went to see dr, she referred me for PT where they decided I had a weak pelvic floor since I had just had a baby, and the PT didn't help. I rode a bit, when I could. There were plenty of days I would stand on the (tall) mounting block and couldn't move my leg enough to get my foot in the stirrup. Full seat canter was agony, and I couldn't do a half halt. There were also days where it took me an hour to get dressed. Let's just say this was not a good time for me.

                        When my daughter was 14 months old I finally revisited the dr and asked for an MRI, where they figured out I had herniated L5-S1, and dr referred me to a physiatrist. Physiatrist suggested epidural injection, which helped quite a bit, and a really mean (in the best way!) PT who helped me *unbelievably*. They also suggested I not ride until we improved the situation. I stopped for nearly a year.

                        About my daughter's second birthday, I started riding again, and sometime shortly after that I could roll over in bed for the first time in two years. I'm now working on fitness and losing the damn flab that has accumulated. I really hope to get out hunting in January, did a hunter pace a couple of weeks ago and that went well. (And although I hadn't intended to jump, I got excited and that went well too.)

                        The main thing I learned was that a good PT makes a world of difference. The one I ended up with made me sweat and curse (tons of push-ups!) and she really really helped.

                        Best of luck.

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                        • #32
                          I had a herniated disk at L5/S1 that had caused me intermittent pain from age 15 on--but giving birth to my son literally ripped it to shreds. I didn't just have one massive herniation (which I did)--I had pieces all over the place. Bulges there, pieces here, blah blah blah. I knew it was bad when the MRI tech paled and her demeanor completely changed talking to me after the scan. "I can't tell you anything, of course," she said. "But...well...your pain is warranted." Funny, I was in pain, but I could ride. I couldn't sit, but I could ride (walk-trot--the canter was painful). I had a microdiscectomy/laminotomy/foraminotomy nearly 6mos after the initial "event" as I had to recover from birth and all that fun stuff, too.

                          16mos later, a cross-country flight and nearly 8 hours of cramped sitting (between car and plane) retriggered the herniation--all that was left of that disc, the tough outer lining, somehow squeezed itself out and *straight* into my sacral nerve root (branches into the sciatic mid-buttock). I thought the first injury was painful, but this absolutely flattened me. That tough stuff kinked my nerve like a garden hose. I gave birth without any pain meds whatsoever, and this pain left that completely in the dust. I couldn't walk, stand, crawl, sit, or even bathe myself lying in a bathtub (hurt too much to lift up my arms) by the end. Neurontin/gabapentin, flexiril, anti-inflammatories--all squirt guns battling a bonfire.

                          I had a repeat microdisc/lami/fora on the site four years ago, almost exactly. I have some arthritis and stiffness, but have never felt nerve pain since. I would do that surgery every day if I could to avoid the hell I was in November-December 2007.

                          I never had injections because my condition was too severe both times.

                          Oh--and my MRI (for the second time around) was so scary looking, it got me in the book Shit My Kids Ruined, heh.

                          But, since then, I've had another child and ridden regularly. I work to keep my weight at a healthy level and to keep moving--both vital for spine health. I can't sit for extended periods of time, but that's it.

                          I *highly* recommend the book The Rider's Pain Free Back. It's written by a neurosurgeon, who is an equestrian himself, who has a lot of equestrian patients. He really makes a lot of insightful points.

                          (BTW--my neurosurgeon owns and shows nationally ranked Arabian reiners, so he *definitely* understood my need to ride. "I know better than to separate a girl and her horse" he told me.)
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                          • #33
                            Fractured L-1, obliterated L-2, fractured L-3 L-4 and 5 are rotated 45 degrees forward and tipped at a right angle, S-1 is jamming into the lower corner of L-5 and pushing it upwards into the other disks. From L-1 upward I am tipped a half inch to the left. Had to have surgery to pick up all the fragments from L-2 and to try to put it back together. What is left of L-2 is bulged toward my spinal cord. Specialist told me four years ago when accident happened to do what I can now because later in life I may not beable to walk. I have complained for four years of constant right hip pain. My Chiro finally did an xray and WOW pain is warented since I broke my hip in two places and still walked on it. I live daily with lower back pain, can't sit or stand for lengthy periods of time and pretty much live in a home-medics recliner. However about six months after my accident I got back on the same horse that threw me and rode him. I have ridden him about a dozen times over the last four years. Sure it hurts like heck to ride but it hurts like heck for me to do almost anything. I had the kaypoplasty surgery and had bone cement inserted I can't twist at the waist or I throw my back out.

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                            • #34
                              Originally posted by gdolapp View Post
                              Fractured L-1, obliterated L-2, fractured L-3 L-4 and 5 are rotated 45 degrees forward and tipped at a right angle, S-1 is jamming into the lower corner of L-5 and pushing it upwards into the other disks. From L-1 upward I am tipped a half inch to the left. Had to have surgery to pick up all the fragments from L-2 and to try to put it back together. What is left of L-2 is bulged toward my spinal cord. Specialist told me four years ago when accident happened to do what I can now because later in life I may not beable to walk. I have complained for four years of constant right hip pain. My Chiro finally did an xray and WOW pain is warented since I broke my hip in two places and still walked on it. I live daily with lower back pain, can't sit or stand for lengthy periods of time and pretty much live in a home-medics recliner. However about six months after my accident I got back on the same horse that threw me and rode him. I have ridden him about a dozen times over the last four years. Sure it hurts like heck to ride but it hurts like heck for me to do almost anything. I had the kaypoplasty surgery and had bone cement inserted I can't twist at the waist or I throw my back out.

                              WOW! That sounds awful! I know how much mine has hurt, and I can't even imagine how much pain you have. Sorry to hear that.



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                                So went to the neurosurgeon (best in Houston) back in the beginning of January and had surgery the next morning. He said "why did you wait so long to come to me?" I'm a different person now - pain free and walking and moving around so much better. My coworkers and physical therapists at the clinic are all amazed. I lost a ton of muscle in my core and in my legs. PT was started 2 weeks ago and I'm now about 8 weeks post op. My neurosurgeon told me I could start riding 2-3 months after surgery. And I asked his PA again recently and she said its up to me when I ride again.

                                Also what herniated my back in the first place was cantering in two-point back in the fall then I rested for a month. Then I tried cantering in two-point again and thats when I really really herniated it and needed surgery.

                                So I don't know when to start riding again. My plan was just to do lots of walk work and a bit of trotting for at least the first month back in saddle. Which works great because I have a pasture puff that I need to get back in shape as well - so the lots of walking will be great for us. But I don't know when I should start....
                                Originally posted by Sithly
                                do NOT give your 5 year old child a big bag of apples and send her out alone into a herd of 20-some horses to get mobbed. There are better ways to dispose of unwanted children.

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                                • #36
                                  I started 3 months after surgery, exactly that way--I did tons of PT to strengthen my core, then walked and trotted, mostly in the two point, actually, as it was easier on my back than posting (worked on that concept with my PT, showed her the position/movement on both). Honestly if your surgeon says you are fixed, you are fixed! Mine told me that following my surgery, I am at no higher risk for herniation than the rest of the population. When a disk herniates, it is usually not a "traumatic event" according to my neurosurgeon. I put on my socks and did mine in totally!!
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                                    Originally posted by Calvincrowe View Post
                                    I started 3 months after surgery, exactly that way--I did tons of PT to strengthen my core, then walked and trotted, mostly in the two point, actually, as it was easier on my back than posting (worked on that concept with my PT, showed her the position/movement on both). Honestly if your surgeon says you are fixed, you are fixed! Mine told me that following my surgery, I am at no higher risk for herniation than the rest of the population. When a disk herniates, it is usually not a "traumatic event" according to my neurosurgeon. I put on my socks and did mine in totally!!
                                    Thanks - that makes me feel better. I will wait until 3 months I guess to be safe. UGH - I'm at 7 weeks post op - that means 5 more weeks until I can ride!!!
                                    Originally posted by Sithly
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