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  • Oh Craigslist - How long before a kill buyer comes knocking for this one?

    Uff.... I feel like writing this lady, and warning her that her "free horse" is most likely going to become a "main course". But really, what are the options here?

    http://stockton.craigslist.org/grd/2740775758.html

    Free Quarter Horse (Tracy)

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    Date: 2011-12-07, 9:04AM PST
    Reply to: sale-psrzt-2740775758@craigslist.org---------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Ungelded 4 year old quarter horse FREE to good home only- cannot be used for riding adults he has bad back. His old owner said it was Chiropractic. Can be trained for smaller weight. Not saddle trained. Needs to see Ferrier ASAP. He has been a backyard horse for his whole life and we are his second home.


    His first home 'Prince' serviced a 7 yr old boy with Ceberal Palsey but he got too heavy for Prince and in our home our 4 yr old daughter has Grand Mal sezures and Aspergers Syndrome. He was gental mannered but we NEVER used him to ride!!!


    My estranged husband cannot care for him as he is disabled as well & doesn't work and doesn't have the money to service his needs. He might be reluctant to see him go but it's for Prince's best interests to have a FOREVER HOME with no drama and for our daughters safety he has got to go!!!

    My horse answers to the name 'Prince' -great PET but a bit onery. He bit me on my buttocks last April while I was getting his feed. He prefers to be fed @8 and I was late... while I was newly sick from a TBI so while still recovering he hasn't seen me much after that.

    Quirky personality, he likes to kick on our backyard fence gate when hungry or bored. He respects working dogs and handled my dogs well. Friendly to all people- but he needs good training and patience. I do not want him to suffer negelect-he is on a half acre & he has gotten sulky...I'm not interested in boarding him but if you want to he NEEDS to be gelded. Facilities will not board a Stallion.

    PRINT OUT this ad when you go to see him...my estranged husband is his caretaker for now, his name is Peter.
    I don't live there anymore, but my name is Rachel.
    Address is : 31145 South Koster Road

    Tracy,Ca 95304 (rural) HORSE beyond backyard redwood fencing but INSIDE his own white ranch style fencing-Pic not avaiable...sorry.
    APPSOLUTE CHOCKLATE - Photo by Kathy Colman

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    A 4yo that's back is so bad he cant carry a 7yo child? Unless that is one big kid, I think it is in the horse's best interest to go to a kill buyer. Seems to me a better fate than he is in now. Especially considering that most of the people looking for a free horse are by no means willing or able to offer this guy the expensive and on going care he would need.
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    • #3
      WOW Not too many sadly.

      Originally posted by Appsolute View Post
      Uff.... I feel like writing this lady, and warning her that her "free horse" is most likely going to become a "main course". But really, what are the options here?

      http://stockton.craigslist.org/grd/2740775758.html

      Free Quarter Horse (Tracy)

      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Date: 2011-12-07, 9:04AM PST
      Reply to: sale-psrzt-2740775758@craigslist.org---------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Ungelded 4 year old quarter horse FREE to good home only- cannot be used for riding adults he has bad back. His old owner said it was Chiropractic. Can be trained for smaller weight. Not saddle trained. Needs to see Ferrier ASAP. He has been a backyard horse for his whole life and we are his second home.


      His first home 'Prince' serviced a 7 yr old boy with Ceberal Palsey but he got too heavy for Prince and in our home our 4 yr old daughter has Grand Mal sezures and Aspergers Syndrome. He was gental mannered but we NEVER used him to ride!!!


      My estranged husband cannot care for him as he is disabled as well & doesn't work and doesn't have the money to service his needs. He might be reluctant to see him go but it's for Prince's best interests to have a FOREVER HOME with no drama and for our daughters safety he has got to go!!!

      My horse answers to the name 'Prince' -great PET but a bit onery. He bit me on my buttocks last April while I was getting his feed. He prefers to be fed @8 and I was late... while I was newly sick from a TBI so while still recovering he hasn't seen me much after that.

      Quirky personality, he likes to kick on our backyard fence gate when hungry or bored. He respects working dogs and handled my dogs well. Friendly to all people- but he needs good training and patience. I do not want him to suffer negelect-he is on a half acre & he has gotten sulky...I'm not interested in boarding him but if you want to he NEEDS to be gelded. Facilities will not board a Stallion.

      PRINT OUT this ad when you go to see him...my estranged husband is his caretaker for now, his name is Peter.
      I don't live there anymore, but my name is Rachel.
      Address is : 31145 South Koster Road

      Tracy,Ca 95304 (rural) HORSE beyond backyard redwood fencing but INSIDE his own white ranch style fencing-Pic not avaiable...sorry.
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      • #4
        I don't see any kind of a good future for this guy. If his back cannot support the weight of a 7 year old with CP, he must be in pain all the time.

        He needs to get out of his current situation, but he really has no place to fit into.

        Sad to say, I think that compassionate euthanasia might be his best option.

        Spending his life, all alone out in back of the house, ungelded, unbroke and lonely and dependent on a disabled man -- is no place for him.
        "He lives in a cocoon of solipsism"

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          #5
          hum.... I remember something about a norcal rescue that has low cost euthanasia clinics, maybe I can find their info and pass it along to the "seller".


          Just sent this to the poster of the add:


          Hello,

          I saw your post on craigslist regarding the free horse. I just want to make you aware that there are many people who will pose as a “good home” and pick up horses to be sold to slaughter. The horses which go to slaughter are often hauled long distances in pretty horrific conditions before being “processed” in either Canada or Mexico. It’s a terrible, horrible way for a horse to die.

          If your young stallion has such a bad back that he cannot support the weight of a child, it is most likely that he is in constant pain.

          Sound, healthy, “valuable” horses are going for free in this current economy. There isn’t anyone willing to take on a horse with serious medical issues for free.

          I urge you to do the right thing for this horse, which by the sounds of it would be a dignified and pain free death through euthanasia. There is a rescue group in northern California which provides access to low cost euthanasia clinics.

          Information regarding this can be found on their website:

          http://horsehumane.org/eclinic.htm

          Good luck to you,
          APPSOLUTE CHOCKLATE - Photo by Kathy Colman

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          • #6
            I am very curious as to what kind of a reply, if any, you get from that response (which was very well-put, BTW)...
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            • #7
              Why is it so hard for some people to accept their very-crippled horse might be better off humanely euthanized? Do people really think a very-unsound 4 yr old will have a great life ahead of him? Or do you think that the seller really doesn't realize how awful a fate awaits their horse if a killbuyer takes him?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Appsolute View Post
                Just sent this to the poster of the ad:
                VERY well written. Thank you for doing that.
                Veterinarians for Equine Welfare

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by philosoraptor View Post
                  Why is it so hard for some people to accept their very-crippled horse might be better off humanely euthanized? Do people really think a very-unsound 4 yr old will have a great life ahead of him? Or do you think that the seller really doesn't realize how awful a fate awaits their horse if a killbuyer takes him?

                  I think a lot of people delude themselves. It's also easier to pass the buck than to shoulder the burden of making that final decision.

                  I'm not excusing it. Or condoning it. This owner may just be truly ignorant and I hope the OP's kindly meant email is well received.

                  But these types of ads remind me of people who dump their pets in rural areas, thinking that some kindly farmer will take in the family pet. Or drop the pet off at the shelter absolutely sure the arthritic, aged animal is adoptable. They are willfully blind, I guess.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Credosporthorses View Post
                    A 4yo that's back is so bad he cant carry a 7yo child? Unless that is one big kid, I think it is in the horse's best interest to go to a kill buyer. Seems to me a better fate than he is in now. Especially considering that most of the people looking for a free horse are by no means willing or able to offer this guy the expensive and on going care he would need.
                    Kidding right? He can't carry a child but he'll withstand a long trip in a slippery truck crammed full of horses, many of which may be bigger than he is and many of which may enjoy trying to kick the bejusus out of their riding companions?

                    How about euthanasia? How about a bullet to the head? Why must he suffer MORE before he goes?
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                    • #11
                      The posting is gone. Hope your extremely well-written email has some effect on what they do with this guy....
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                      • #12
                        I was having trouble getting past the fact that they said the stallion "serviced" a 7 year old boy.

                        The whole thing is just sad

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                        • #13
                          Even with low cost euthansia, unless these folks have the property to bury the carcass on, they will have to pay for rendering which can cost several hundred dollars.
                          I don't always feel up to arguing with your ignorance

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Monica67 View Post
                            Even with low cost euthansia, unless these folks have the property to bury the carcass on, they will have to pay for rendering which can cost several hundred dollars.
                            Maybe you didn't intend to make it sound this way, but are you implying they should not have to take responsibility for their own horses because it might cost them a few dollars?

                            Several hundred dollars isn't alot to a horse owner, relatively speaking. For example, it's what a single horse-trailer load of hay costs. If "several hundred dollars" can be a justification for allowing a horse to suffer, would it be fair to let owners stop feeding their horses if hay is inconveniently expensive? At what point does money outweigh all personal responsibility?
                            Veterinarians for Equine Welfare

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                            • #15
                              Several hundred dollars isn't alot to a horse owner.


                              This is about as factual as the statement that "In the US, every puppy and kitten born has a loving and caring home."

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                              • #16
                                Not implying they should not have to take any responsibility at all.

                                Just pointing out that there are two factors to the euthanasia equation.

                                One is the service the vet does and the other is the rendering cost.

                                So to simply state low cost euthanasia is only half correct when it concerns the vet portion.
                                I don't always feel up to arguing with your ignorance

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                                • #17
                                  Unfortunately, given the post, I'd bet dollars to donuts no one is gonna go for euth'ing the horse. It sounded odd as it was, that the husband didn't want the horse gone anyway and you had to print out the ad and give it to him, etc.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by katarine View Post
                                    Several hundred dollars isn't alot to a horse owner.

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                                    Thank you and good day.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Big_Tag View Post
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                                      • #20
                                        Don't the euthanasia clinics take care of the entire thing? I can't imagine you take your horse to them, pay the low cost, and then have to haul the carcass. Or maybe you do????

                                        I hope the person takes the advice of the COTH'r and lets this guy go humanely.

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