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  • When bad things happen to good boarders..or "how my farm went bankrupt while I was on holiday".

    After coming from the boarding facility from H*ll last year, I really thought I'd found a good place. Nice facility, great turnout for my youngster, friendly people with lofty amibitions. Too lofty, it seems.

    Imagine my shock, while lounging on the sunny shores of Lake Superior yesterday, I get a cell phone call from a fellow boarder (one I had never met - I keep odd hours due to shiftwork) saying that the people that ran the barn I board my filly at had packed up and left in the middle of the night.

    Now when I say packed up, I mean packed up. They started packing at 6PM, had all their horses shipped out by 11. They took everything that was not nailed down. She was accepting board payments for July 1st right up until an hour before she left. Turns out, not only does she not own the facility like she said (leases it), but she owes a ton of money to the vet, farrier, hay guy, feed store...you get the picture.

    Here is the catch. She took the feed. The hay. Everything. Of course, the few boarders who were there at the time realized what was going on (as the furniture was being hauled from the house) and confronted them, and they were handed a plain letter stating that staff (a capable girl, but it's a large farm) has been retained until July 5th, after that your horse must be off the property. OH, and this letter was handed out to five people who happened to be there. Out of fifteen boarders. Of course, word spread fast, and a few of the boarders decided to spend the night in the barn, fearing creditors etc. At 4AM, apparently she came back to get the remainder of the feed that had been left and had to be physically restrained from doing so.

    And the ultimate? Since I was on holiday, I was not there to get the letter. A fellow boarder had to search the unlocked and empty house for contact info for me. The woman had taken the list of emergency contacts from the barn, along with everything else. I guess she had no intention of calling me. She knew I was out of town, as well. By a fluke, I'd given them a typed sheet of emergency numbers. I remember she'd laughed at me and called me "anal" because, of course, all the contact info was in the barn HA! The boarders found this sheet in a pile of papers in the house - otherwise, I would still be sitting on a sunny shore up on Lake Superior in blissful ignorance that my horse may not be eating, or have a home after Saturday.

    It is a very good thing I did not go to Europe, because our holiday was cut short by five days. We immediately packed up and drove back - an 8 hour drive today.

    I'm still in shock. That the woman who diligently cashed my cheque every month and smiled at me and made small talk would abandon the animals leaving little food and almost no care, and did not have the decency to call me (or any other boarders for that matter). That she thinks that five days is sufficient time to find a new boarding facility. That she took money (one new boarder moved in on Monday, paid a months board, and promptly moved out yesterday amongst the controversy) and tried to cash my cheque for July's board this morning (stop payments are wonderful things) without batting an eye.

    On the up side, the boarders are fantastic. Not only did they track me down, they have contacted the real owners of the facility and negotiated some lead time rather than this Saturday's deadline, and they have purchased hay, feed and a water trough - they took the water troughs! - as well as taking turns feeding, mucking, and sleeping in the barn.

    Since I have the next few days off - goodbye, vacation - I am going to help out. But, at least there isn't the panic there was yesterday of having to find a boarding facility by Saturday.

    I don't understand. I was at my first boarding facility from the age of 11 to 29. I am still friends with them. They were ethical, honest, and good friends - alas too far away from where I now live.

    What is wrong with horse people?!?!? I understand it is very difficult to make it in the boarding business, but to abandon the animals like that with NO word to me...is inexcusable. To cash board cheques for a month that they would not be providing service, inexcusable. I would dearly love to name the facility and individual here, but don't want to cross that line. I'm not sure if that's ok or not, so I'm erring on the side of caution. I will say it is Cambridge, Ontario. Some of you may know who I'm speaking of.

    I am SO angry!!!!
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    After coming from the boarding facility from H*ll last year, I really thought I'd found a good place. Nice facility, great turnout for my youngster, friendly people with lofty amibitions. Too lofty, it seems.

    Imagine my shock, while lounging on the sunny shores of Lake Superior yesterday, I get a cell phone call from a fellow boarder (one I had never met - I keep odd hours due to shiftwork) saying that the people that ran the barn I board my filly at had packed up and left in the middle of the night.

    Now when I say packed up, I mean packed up. They started packing at 6PM, had all their horses shipped out by 11. They took everything that was not nailed down. She was accepting board payments for July 1st right up until an hour before she left. Turns out, not only does she not own the facility like she said (leases it), but she owes a ton of money to the vet, farrier, hay guy, feed store...you get the picture.

    Here is the catch. She took the feed. The hay. Everything. Of course, the few boarders who were there at the time realized what was going on (as the furniture was being hauled from the house) and confronted them, and they were handed a plain letter stating that staff (a capable girl, but it's a large farm) has been retained until July 5th, after that your horse must be off the property. OH, and this letter was handed out to five people who happened to be there. Out of fifteen boarders. Of course, word spread fast, and a few of the boarders decided to spend the night in the barn, fearing creditors etc. At 4AM, apparently she came back to get the remainder of the feed that had been left and had to be physically restrained from doing so.

    And the ultimate? Since I was on holiday, I was not there to get the letter. A fellow boarder had to search the unlocked and empty house for contact info for me. The woman had taken the list of emergency contacts from the barn, along with everything else. I guess she had no intention of calling me. She knew I was out of town, as well. By a fluke, I'd given them a typed sheet of emergency numbers. I remember she'd laughed at me and called me "anal" because, of course, all the contact info was in the barn HA! The boarders found this sheet in a pile of papers in the house - otherwise, I would still be sitting on a sunny shore up on Lake Superior in blissful ignorance that my horse may not be eating, or have a home after Saturday.

    It is a very good thing I did not go to Europe, because our holiday was cut short by five days. We immediately packed up and drove back - an 8 hour drive today.

    I'm still in shock. That the woman who diligently cashed my cheque every month and smiled at me and made small talk would abandon the animals leaving little food and almost no care, and did not have the decency to call me (or any other boarders for that matter). That she thinks that five days is sufficient time to find a new boarding facility. That she took money (one new boarder moved in on Monday, paid a months board, and promptly moved out yesterday amongst the controversy) and tried to cash my cheque for July's board this morning (stop payments are wonderful things) without batting an eye.

    On the up side, the boarders are fantastic. Not only did they track me down, they have contacted the real owners of the facility and negotiated some lead time rather than this Saturday's deadline, and they have purchased hay, feed and a water trough - they took the water troughs! - as well as taking turns feeding, mucking, and sleeping in the barn.

    Since I have the next few days off - goodbye, vacation - I am going to help out. But, at least there isn't the panic there was yesterday of having to find a boarding facility by Saturday.

    I don't understand. I was at my first boarding facility from the age of 11 to 29. I am still friends with them. They were ethical, honest, and good friends - alas too far away from where I now live.

    What is wrong with horse people?!?!? I understand it is very difficult to make it in the boarding business, but to abandon the animals like that with NO word to me...is inexcusable. To cash board cheques for a month that they would not be providing service, inexcusable. I would dearly love to name the facility and individual here, but don't want to cross that line. I'm not sure if that's ok or not, so I'm erring on the side of caution. I will say it is Cambridge, Ontario. Some of you may know who I'm speaking of.

    I am SO angry!!!!

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    • #3
      Youch!!!

      Thank goodness for good fellow boarders! Good luck!
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      • #4
        Wow! I feel awful about your situation..I'm glad the other boarders cared enough to track you down. I'm sure this will be all the buzz in our area for the next little while.

        you know I can't let you slide through my hands..wild horses couldn't drag me away..

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        • #5
          Wow, Goodyfourshoes...

          I'm so sorry you had to go through this - but it sounds like you found some great folks in your fellow boarders.

          Although I can't do anything practical to help, I'm sending some West Coast hugs and best wishes for a new barn situation. And who knows...perhaps everything happens for a reason and you are about to find the barn of your dreams???

          "Waste no time arguing what a good person shall be, be one."
          -Marcus Aurelius
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          • #6
            OH, I am so sorry, in Cambridge??, wow thats close.
            Usually I read about things like this and its always far away. When its close to home, somehow it hits you harder.
            Any luck finding another place with everything thats going on?
            One question, was this a western place or english. I heard of another western barn doing the same thing, a few years ago. Again in this area.

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            • #7
              wow- damn, but that reads like some sortof sick detective novel or something! She is certifiable, and I am jsut sorry you weren't there to smack her stupid as she was running amok. It sounds like the other boarders are super incredible, and you are so lucky. I hope you guys can do something to nail her for that, but I doubt it. Were the owners of the facility just freaking out?

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              • #8
                ladybug... Our national tree is a _ _ _ _ _ and in the winter we burn _ _ _ _ in our fireplaces.

                Goodyfourshoes I'm so sorry to hear you were one of the ones affected by this. Interesting to hear the actual story... what a bunch of scumbags. Do the owners have anyone in mind to take over the place and run it - properly this time? I hear it's a lovely facility. I know someone that was very recently checking the place out as a potential boarder and she said a number of things didn't sit well... the managers horses were turned out in the grass paddocks while the boarders were in dirt paddocks, etc. I'm sure she'll comment herself when she sees this thread.

                I hope it works out for you, and quickly!

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                • #9
                  Hmmmmm....I am personally acquainted with said managers as I had a brief 6 week stay at this barn this spring and then felt something wasn't quite right.

                  It's a crying shame the way this happened. Goody didn't even mention a boarder's mare that's due to foal any day now edited to add: Goody...you are sounding very familiar...are you actually the boarder with the expecting mare?

                  I know of a couple of stalls that are available on short notice if anyone is in a pinch, PT me.

                  LadyBug> it was predominantly English (1 or 2 western boarders)

                  Goodyfourshoes> have you found a place yet? What a situation to be in...not only to be "homeless", but to also feel so utterly duped. I know exactly how you feel.

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                  [This message was edited by DH on Jul. 03, 2003 at 12:59 AM.]
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                  • #10
                    That majorly sucks. I was thinking can't you take some sort of legal action against the leasee with the other boarders? Also, can't the true property owners file a lawsuit for breach of contract?

                    Either way, good luck with finding a new place!

                    - L.

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                    • #11
                      Okay I got the name of the barn (thanks to Nikita's puzzle ) but could someone in the know PT me the name of the barn manager as I would hate to run into her using a new farm name.

                      Really sorry you are going through this. It's unbelievable how selfish and horrible people can be.

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                      • #12
                        That is horrible! Since I have just moved into a new barn, glad I can get there every day now.

                        Funny how I like my horse more than I do most people.

                        I hope things work out for you Goodyfourshoes!and you find a nice place to board.
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                        • #13
                          Jeez Goody! I am so sorry that this had to happen to you and all of your fellow boarders. Like the others who have posted, I cannot imagine how this woman could do something like this to you, or to the horses under her care. Dear Lord, to even try to steal the feed!

                          Though, stealing that probably means that she has someplace to go, to put her horses. Anybody know of a "new" trainer who has just set up business near where you are? Or someone who just "bought" a horse facility that was on the market. Wonder if any realtors with equine facility experience might know something?

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                          • #14
                            OMG!! Absolutely unbelievable! I spent years and years in law enforcement, and thought I'd seen everything and then something like this comes along. Losers, idiots, ack ack ack - there are not enough bad names to call them. Thank goodness for the other boarders - they sound like a great crew.

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                            • #15
                              You know, those are people who DESERVE to be strangled with a lawsuit, or better yet several. You definitely lost money on your vacation, not to mention it sounds like breach of contract on their part. You may not get any money out of them, but you could sure make their lives miserable. Do you have any friends or relatives who are lawyers and could help you out here?

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                              • #16
                                Whoa! What a horrible story. What is WRONG with these people? Kind of along the same line, have you all seen this thread over in Horse Care?

                                http://chronicleforums.com/groupee/f...911&m=78560605

                                I'm giving my barn owner a big hug today.

                                Goodyfourshoes, you have my sympathy. What a mess. I hope SOME good will come out of it all. I just hope these folks find NO peace until they make amends.

                                Wow. I'm speechless.

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                                • #17
                                  would the owners lease to a cooperative? would the boarders be willing to form one? run it the way you want it.
                                  more hay, less grain

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                                  • #18
                                    Bumblebee - email me and I can give you her name.

                                    I, too, had no idea at all that this place wasnt owned by her and her husband - that they were merely renting/leasing the facility.
                                    It was posted on EMG (and taken down after a day) that the place was declaring bankruptcy but no word at that time that they planned on doing a midnight exit off the property.

                                    I am now curious - her aunt (Sheryl) was also a boarder there - was she also left high and dry like the rest of the boarders? Along with the fellow with the Holsteiner stallion?

                                    Goodyfourshoes - I am so sorry for you and the other boarders. Perhaps someone decent will take over the facility and you can all stay on?

                                    There are a good amount of stalls at Pegasus Equestrian Centre in the Carlisle / Waterdown area - if anyone needs the contact info for them - let me know

                                    Good luck to all!

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                                    • #19
                                      Goody, so sorry to hear you're going through this mess. If you are in a bind, please feel free to email me. Our farm is just west of London and I would be more than happy to pick your horse up and offer lodging until you find something closer to home.

                                      "If you are going through hell, keep going." ~Churchill~
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                                      • #20
                                        Wow This person actually contacted me to buy a horse from me last fall!!!! Am I ever glad she didn't follow up!

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