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  • URGENT ACTION NEEDED TODAY! Update: Anti slaughter amendment vote today!!! 9/14

    US Senate Moves to Stop Horse Slaughter
    URGENT ACTION NEEDED TODAY!

    Sept. 9, 2005


    Dear Humanitarian:

    The US Senate is poised to vote on legislation to stop the brutal slaughter of American horses for human consumption in foreign countries. An identical measure by Congressmen John Sweeney (R-NY) and John Spratt (D-SC) passed overwhelmingly in the US House of Representatives on June 8.

    Senator John Ensign (R-NV), one of only two veterinarians in Congress, and Senator Robert C. Byrd (D-WV) are expected to introduce an amendment to the Senate Agriculture Appropriations bill that prohibits the use of any federal taxpayer funds to slaughter horses.

    Please take a moment to contact your Senators TODAY, urging his or her immediate support of the Ensign/Byrd amendment to the Senate Agriculture Appropriations Bill. The Senate will consider the amendment during the week of Sept. 12 (most likely on Tuesday, Sept. 13), so your immediate assistance is critical. If you would like additional facts or need to find the name of your Senators, visit our Web site at http://www.saplonline.org/horses.htm or call us at (703) 836-4300.

    WHAT YOU CAN DO:

    Please call or fax your Senators today. Refer to the fact sheet below for specific points to discuss.

    Ask your Senators to support the Ensign/Byrd Agriculture Appropriations Amendment (prohibiting your tax dollars from being spent on horse slaughter) and respectfully request his or her specific position the issue.

    Capitol Hill Operator: (202) 224-3121 (they will help you reach your Senators)

    Your immediate assistance is essential to ensure the Senate hears from an outpouring of concerned constituents; the House of Representatives did, and the horses won. Please share our "Dear Humanitarian" eAlert with family, friends and coworkers, and encourage them to make phone calls and send faxes, too. As always, please share any responses you receive from Congress with us.

    Thank you so much for your help!

    Sincerely,

    Cathy Liss
    Legislative Director
    Society for Animal Protective Legislation
    (A Division of the Animal Welfare Institute)
    http://www.saplonline.org/

    ________________________________

    FACTS ABOUT HORSE SLAUGHTER

    Last year three foreign-owned slaughter plants cruelly slaughtered more than 65,000 horses for human consumption in Europe and Asia.
    Tens of thousands more of America's horses were exported and slaughtered in other countries. Slaughter is NOT humane euthanasia. Horses suffer horribly on the way to and during slaughter.
    Passage of the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act (AHSPA) will reduce animal suffering - hence its wide support throughout the equestrian and veterinary world, as well as the humane community.
    Americans support an end to horse slaughter for human consumption overwhelmingly (polls from Kentucky, Texas and Utah respectively show that 82, 72 and 69 percent of those questioned oppose the practice). In California, a 1998 ballot initiative (Prop. 6) banning horse slaughter for human consumption passed with 60 percent of the vote.

    1. Sick and old horses to slaughter

    Question: Is it true that slaughter is only a last resort for infirm, dangerous or horses who are no longer serviceable?

    Answer: 92.3 percent of horses arriving at slaughter plants in this country are in "good" condition, according to the US Department of Agriculture's Guidelines for Handling and Transporting Equines to Slaughter.

    2. Neglect and abuse

    Question: Will horse abuse and neglect cases rise significantly following a ban on slaughter?

    Answer: There has been no documented rise in abuse and neglect cases in California since the state banned horse slaughter for human consumption in 1998. There is no documented rise in Illinois following closure of the state's only horse slaughter plant in 2002.

    3. Cost of caring for "unwanted horses."

    Question: If there is a ban on horse slaughter, will horse rescue and retirement groups have the resources to take care of unwanted horses? Should the government have to pay for the care of horses given up voluntarily by their owners?

    Answer: Not every horse going to slaughter will need to be absorbed into the rescue community. Many will be sold to a new owner, others will be kept longer and a licensed veterinarian will humanely euthanize some. Opponents of this legislation admit passage of the bill will not necessarily lead to an increase in the number of horses sent to rescue facilities, precisely because humane euthanasia is so widely used. It is not the government's responsibility to provide for the care of horses given up voluntarily by their owners, as these animals are private property. Hundreds of horse rescue organizations operate around the country, and additional facilities are being established (a list is available).

    4. A safe and humane solution for sick, old and unwanted horses

    Question: If slaughter is not an option, what will we do with sick, old and "unwanted horses?"

    Answer: Approximately 690,000 horses die annually in this country (10 percent of an estimated population of 6.9 million) and the vast majority are not slaughtered, but euthanized and rendered or buried without any negative environmental impact. Humane euthanasia and carcass disposal is highly affordable and widely available. The average cost of having a horse humanely euthanized and safely disposing of the animal's carcass is approximately $225, while the average monthly cost of keeping a horse is approximately $200.

    5. Export of horses for slaughter abroad

    Question: If there is a ban on horse slaughter in the United States, will there be an increase in the export of horses for foreign slaughter? Will horses suffer from longer transport for slaughter in countries where there may be weaker welfare laws?

    Answer: Horse slaughter has declined dramatically in the United States over the past decade, but there has been no correlating increase in the number of American horses exported for slaughter abroad. Further, the AHSPA prohibits the export of horses for slaughter abroad and contains clear enforcement and penalty provisions to prevent this from happening. Risk of federal prosecution and the high costs associated with illegally transporting horses long distances for slaughter abroad are strong deterrents.

    6. Standards of care at sanctuaries and rescue organizations

    Question: Is it true no standards exist for horse rescue facilities that take unwanted horses?

    Answer: The Doris Day Animal League and the Animal Welfare Institute published "Basic Guidelines for Operating an Equine Rescue or Retirement Facility" in 2004. Additionally, the Association of Sanctuaries and the American Sanctuaries Association provide accreditation programs, a code of ethics and guidelines for the operation of sanctuaries and rescue organizations. Horse rescue groups must also provide for the welfare of horses in their custody in compliance with state and local animal welfare laws.

    7. Use of horsemeat in pet food

    Question: If there is a ban on horse slaughter, will horsemeat no longer be available for pet food?

    Answer: There is no horsemeat in pet food. This practice stopped decades ago and has some connection to the enactment of protections for America's wild horses in 1971. The US public and Congress were outraged to learn federal agencies were rounding up and allowing the exploitation and slaughter of these national treasures for items such as pet food. Some by-products of the horse slaughter industry are used in various consumer items, but they are derived from the rendering of dead horses (a different process than slaughter and not affected by the AHSPA) and other animals.
    www.horse-protection.org

    No Horses to Slaughter Clique
  • Original Poster

    #2
    US Senate Moves to Stop Horse Slaughter
    URGENT ACTION NEEDED TODAY!

    Sept. 9, 2005


    Dear Humanitarian:

    The US Senate is poised to vote on legislation to stop the brutal slaughter of American horses for human consumption in foreign countries. An identical measure by Congressmen John Sweeney (R-NY) and John Spratt (D-SC) passed overwhelmingly in the US House of Representatives on June 8.

    Senator John Ensign (R-NV), one of only two veterinarians in Congress, and Senator Robert C. Byrd (D-WV) are expected to introduce an amendment to the Senate Agriculture Appropriations bill that prohibits the use of any federal taxpayer funds to slaughter horses.

    Please take a moment to contact your Senators TODAY, urging his or her immediate support of the Ensign/Byrd amendment to the Senate Agriculture Appropriations Bill. The Senate will consider the amendment during the week of Sept. 12 (most likely on Tuesday, Sept. 13), so your immediate assistance is critical. If you would like additional facts or need to find the name of your Senators, visit our Web site at http://www.saplonline.org/horses.htm or call us at (703) 836-4300.

    WHAT YOU CAN DO:

    Please call or fax your Senators today. Refer to the fact sheet below for specific points to discuss.

    Ask your Senators to support the Ensign/Byrd Agriculture Appropriations Amendment (prohibiting your tax dollars from being spent on horse slaughter) and respectfully request his or her specific position the issue.

    Capitol Hill Operator: (202) 224-3121 (they will help you reach your Senators)

    Your immediate assistance is essential to ensure the Senate hears from an outpouring of concerned constituents; the House of Representatives did, and the horses won. Please share our "Dear Humanitarian" eAlert with family, friends and coworkers, and encourage them to make phone calls and send faxes, too. As always, please share any responses you receive from Congress with us.

    Thank you so much for your help!

    Sincerely,

    Cathy Liss
    Legislative Director
    Society for Animal Protective Legislation
    (A Division of the Animal Welfare Institute)
    http://www.saplonline.org/

    ________________________________

    FACTS ABOUT HORSE SLAUGHTER

    Last year three foreign-owned slaughter plants cruelly slaughtered more than 65,000 horses for human consumption in Europe and Asia.
    Tens of thousands more of America's horses were exported and slaughtered in other countries. Slaughter is NOT humane euthanasia. Horses suffer horribly on the way to and during slaughter.
    Passage of the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act (AHSPA) will reduce animal suffering - hence its wide support throughout the equestrian and veterinary world, as well as the humane community.
    Americans support an end to horse slaughter for human consumption overwhelmingly (polls from Kentucky, Texas and Utah respectively show that 82, 72 and 69 percent of those questioned oppose the practice). In California, a 1998 ballot initiative (Prop. 6) banning horse slaughter for human consumption passed with 60 percent of the vote.

    1. Sick and old horses to slaughter

    Question: Is it true that slaughter is only a last resort for infirm, dangerous or horses who are no longer serviceable?

    Answer: 92.3 percent of horses arriving at slaughter plants in this country are in "good" condition, according to the US Department of Agriculture's Guidelines for Handling and Transporting Equines to Slaughter.

    2. Neglect and abuse

    Question: Will horse abuse and neglect cases rise significantly following a ban on slaughter?

    Answer: There has been no documented rise in abuse and neglect cases in California since the state banned horse slaughter for human consumption in 1998. There is no documented rise in Illinois following closure of the state's only horse slaughter plant in 2002.

    3. Cost of caring for "unwanted horses."

    Question: If there is a ban on horse slaughter, will horse rescue and retirement groups have the resources to take care of unwanted horses? Should the government have to pay for the care of horses given up voluntarily by their owners?

    Answer: Not every horse going to slaughter will need to be absorbed into the rescue community. Many will be sold to a new owner, others will be kept longer and a licensed veterinarian will humanely euthanize some. Opponents of this legislation admit passage of the bill will not necessarily lead to an increase in the number of horses sent to rescue facilities, precisely because humane euthanasia is so widely used. It is not the government's responsibility to provide for the care of horses given up voluntarily by their owners, as these animals are private property. Hundreds of horse rescue organizations operate around the country, and additional facilities are being established (a list is available).

    4. A safe and humane solution for sick, old and unwanted horses

    Question: If slaughter is not an option, what will we do with sick, old and "unwanted horses?"

    Answer: Approximately 690,000 horses die annually in this country (10 percent of an estimated population of 6.9 million) and the vast majority are not slaughtered, but euthanized and rendered or buried without any negative environmental impact. Humane euthanasia and carcass disposal is highly affordable and widely available. The average cost of having a horse humanely euthanized and safely disposing of the animal's carcass is approximately $225, while the average monthly cost of keeping a horse is approximately $200.

    5. Export of horses for slaughter abroad

    Question: If there is a ban on horse slaughter in the United States, will there be an increase in the export of horses for foreign slaughter? Will horses suffer from longer transport for slaughter in countries where there may be weaker welfare laws?

    Answer: Horse slaughter has declined dramatically in the United States over the past decade, but there has been no correlating increase in the number of American horses exported for slaughter abroad. Further, the AHSPA prohibits the export of horses for slaughter abroad and contains clear enforcement and penalty provisions to prevent this from happening. Risk of federal prosecution and the high costs associated with illegally transporting horses long distances for slaughter abroad are strong deterrents.

    6. Standards of care at sanctuaries and rescue organizations

    Question: Is it true no standards exist for horse rescue facilities that take unwanted horses?

    Answer: The Doris Day Animal League and the Animal Welfare Institute published "Basic Guidelines for Operating an Equine Rescue or Retirement Facility" in 2004. Additionally, the Association of Sanctuaries and the American Sanctuaries Association provide accreditation programs, a code of ethics and guidelines for the operation of sanctuaries and rescue organizations. Horse rescue groups must also provide for the welfare of horses in their custody in compliance with state and local animal welfare laws.

    7. Use of horsemeat in pet food

    Question: If there is a ban on horse slaughter, will horsemeat no longer be available for pet food?

    Answer: There is no horsemeat in pet food. This practice stopped decades ago and has some connection to the enactment of protections for America's wild horses in 1971. The US public and Congress were outraged to learn federal agencies were rounding up and allowing the exploitation and slaughter of these national treasures for items such as pet food. Some by-products of the horse slaughter industry are used in various consumer items, but they are derived from the rendering of dead horses (a different process than slaughter and not affected by the AHSPA) and other animals.
    www.horse-protection.org

    No Horses to Slaughter Clique

    Comment


    • #3
      Totally agree old horses, lame, etc. are not the main ones slaughered. Horse slaugher is no differant then any other livestock the most desired ones are younger and in good shape thats the ones with the most meat.

      Your numbers are way off though, according to the AHC in 2004 there were over 9 million horses in the U.S.

      And horse meat is used in pet foods, I've delevered some to a dog food company here in Mn. myself from the rendering plant.
      Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

      Comment


      • #4
        when do they vote?

        Comment

        • Original Poster

          #5
          Blondy,

          The vote is expected to come as early as next Tuesday.
          www.horse-protection.org

          No Horses to Slaughter Clique

          Comment

          • Original Poster

            #6
            The senate is expected to vote on the Ensign/Byrd amendment tomorrow!

            Please continue making faxes and calls both today and tomorrow!

            Please crosspost this message far and wide!

            ALABAMA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-AL) 202-224-5744
            202-224-3416
            Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) 202-224-4124 202-224-3149

            ALASKA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Ted Stevens (R-AK) 202-224-3004 202-224-2354
            Senator Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) 202-224-6665
            202-224-5301

            ARIZONA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator John McCain (R-AZ) 202-224-2235 202-228-2862
            Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ) 202-224-4521 202-224-2207

            ARKANSAS

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Blanche Lambert Lincoln (D-AR) 202-224-4843
            202-228-1371
            Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR) 202-224-2353 202-228-0908

            CALIFORNIA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) 202-224-3841
            202-228-3954
            Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) 202-224-3553 415-956-6701


            COLORADO

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Ken Salazar (D-CO) 202-224-5852 202-228-5036
            Senator Wayne Allard (R-CO) 202-224-5941 202-224-6471

            CONNECTICUT

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Christopher J. Dodd (D-CT) 202-224-2823
            202-224-1083
            Senator Joseph I. Lieberman (D-CT) 202-224-4041
            202-224-9750

            DELAWARE:

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE) 202-224-5042
            202-224-0139
            Senator Thomas R. Carper (D-DE) 202-224-2441
            202-228-2190

            FLORIDA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Mel Martinez (R-FL) 202-224-3041 202-228-5171
            Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) 202-224-5274 202-228-2183

            GEORGIA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Saxby Chambliss (D-GA) 202-224-3521
            202-228-2090
            Senator Johnny Isakson (R-GA) 202-224-3643
            202-228-0724

            HAWAII

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Daniel K. Inouye (D-HI) 202-224-3934
            202-224-6747
            Senator Daniel K. Akaka (D-HI) 202-224-6361
            202-224-2126

            IDAHO

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Larry E. Craig (R-ID) 202-224-2752
            202-228-1067
            Senator Mike Crapo (R-ID) 202-224-6142 202-228-1375

            ILLINOIS

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Richard J. Durbin (D-IL) 202-224-2152
            202-228-0400
            Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) 202-224-2854 202-228-4260

            INDIANA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX
            Senator Richard G. Lugar (R-IN) 202-224-4814
            202-228-0360
            Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) 202-224-5623 202-228-1377

            IOWA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Charles E. Grassley (R-IA) 202-224-3744
            202-224-6020
            Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) 202-224-3254 202-224-9369

            KANSAS

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS) 202-224-6521 202-228-1265
            Senator Pat Roberts (R-KS) 202-224-4774 202-224-3514

            KENTUCKY

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) 202-224-2541
            202-224-2499
            Senator Jim Bunning (R-KY) 202-224-4343 202-228-1373

            LOUISIANA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator David Vitter (R-LA) 202-224-4623 202-228-5061
            Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) 202-224-5824 202-224-9735

            MAINE

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Olympia Snowe (R-ME) 202-224-5344 202-224-1946
            Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) 202-224-2523 202-224-2693

            MARYLAND

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD) 202-224-4524 202-224-1651
            Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) 202-224-4654
            202-224-8858

            MASSACHUSETTS

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Edward Kennedy (D-MA) 202-224-4543
            202-224-2417
            Senator John Kerry (D-MA) 202-224-2742 202-224-8525

            MICHIGAN

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) 202-224-6221 202-224-1388
            Senator Debbie A. Stabenow (D-MI) 202-224-4822
            202-228-0325

            MINNESOTA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Mark Dayton (D-MN) 202-224-3244 202-228-2186
            Senator Norm Coleman (R-MN) 202-224-5641 202-224-1152

            MISSISSIPPI

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Thad Cochran (R-MS) 202-224-5054 202-224-9450
            Senator Trent Lott (R-MS) 202-224-6253 202-224-2262

            MISSOURI

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Christopher S. Bond (R-MO) 202-224-5721
            202-224-8149
            Senator Jim Talent (R-MO) 202-224-6154 202-228-1518

            MONTANA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) 202-224-2651 202-224-0515
            Senator Conrad R. Burns (R-MT) 202-224-2644
            202-224-8594

            NEBRASKA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) 202-224-4224 202-224-5213
            Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE) 202-224-6551 202-228-0012

            NEVADA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) 202-224-3542 202-224-7327
            Senator John Ensign (R-NV) 202-224-6244 202-228-2193

            NEW HAMPSHIRE

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH) 202-224-3324 202-224-4952
            Senator John Sununu (R-NH) 202-224-2841 202-228-4131

            NEW JERSEY

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Jon S. Corzine (D-NJ) 202-224-4744
            202-228-2197
            Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) 202-224-3224
            202-228-4054

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            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Pete V. Domenici (R- NM) 202-224-6621
            202-228-0900
            Senator Jeff Bingaman (D- NM) 202-224-5521
            202-224-2852

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            Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) 202-224-6542
            202-228-3027
            Senator Hillary R. Clinton (D-NY) 202-224-4451
            202-228-0282

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            Senator Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) 202-224-6342
            202-224-1100

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            Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND) 202-224-2043 202-224-7776
            Senator Byron L. Dorgan (D-ND) 202-224-2551
            202-224-1193

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            Senator Mike DeWine (R-OH) 202-224-2315 202-224-6519
            Senator George Voinovich (R-OH) 202-224-3353
            202-228-1382

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            Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) 202-224-5754 202-224-6008
            Senator James M. Inhofe (R-OK) 202-224-4721
            202-228-0380

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            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) 202-224-5244 202-228-2717
            Senator Gordon Smith (R-OR) 202-224-3753 202-228-3997

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            Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA) 202-224-4254 202-228-1229
            Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) 202-224-6324 202-228-0604

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            Senator Jack Reed (D-RI) 202-224-4642 202-224-4680
            Senator Lincoln D. Chafee (R-RI) 202-224-2921
            202-228-2853

            SOUTH CAROLINA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator James DeMint (R-SC) 202-224-6121 202-228-5143
            Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) 202-224-5972
            202-224-3808

            SOUTH DAKOTA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator John Thune (R-SD) 202-224-2321 202-228-5429
            Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD) 202-224-5842 202-228-5765

            TENNESSEE

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator William H. Frist (R-TN) 202-224-3344
            202-228-1264
            Senator Lamar Alexander (R-TN) 202-224-4944
            202-228-3398

            TEXAS

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) 202-224-5922
            202-224-0776
            Senator John Cornyn (R-TX) 202-224-2934 202-228-2856

            UTAH

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT) 202-224-5251
            202-224-6331
            Senator Robert F. Bennett (R-UT) 202-224-5444
            202-228-1168

            VERMONT

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Patrick J. Leahy (D-VT) 202-224-4242
            202-224-3479
            Senator James M. Jeffords (I-VT) 202-224-5141
            202-228-0776

            VIRGINIA

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator John W. Warner (R-VA) 202-224-2023
            202-224-6295
            Senator George Allen (R-VA) 202-224-4024 202-224-5432

            WASHINGTON

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) 202-224-2621 202-224-0238
            Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA) 202-224-3441
            202-228-0514

            WEST VIRGINIA


            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Robert C. Byrd (D-WV) 202-224-3954
            202-228-0002
            Sen John D. Rockefeller, IV (D-WV) 202-224-6472
            202-224-7665

            WISCONSIN

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Herb Kohl (D-WI) 202-224-5653 202-224-9787
            Senator Russell D. Feingold (D-WI) 202-224-5323
            202-224-2725

            WYOMING

            Member Name DC Phone DC FAX

            Senator Craig Thomas (R-WY) 202-224-6441 202-224-1724
            Senator Michael Enzi (R-WY) 202-224-3424 202-228-0359
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            No Horses to Slaughter Clique

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            • #7
              Sent faxes to my two senators last Friday.
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              \"Horses lend us the wings we lack\"

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              • #8
                Thanks for the numbers I've already contacted mine here in Mn. to vote against it but freinds in the Dakotas just asked me this past weekend if I knew how to get ahold of theirs to do so.
                Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                • Original Poster

                  #9
                  Thanks, luvmytb's! Please try to follow up with a phone call as well.

                  Gail
                  www.horse-protection.org

                  No Horses to Slaughter Clique

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                  • #10
                    I called both my senators and they support the Ensign amendment! yay! Thanks for posting the contacts, I havent been on coth much since the cber thread was banned but knew I could get the scoop here! Thanks

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                    • Original Poster

                      #11
                      That's great news, certifiedgirl!!

                      Thanks so very much for all of your hard work!

                      Gail
                      www.horse-protection.org

                      No Horses to Slaughter Clique

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                      • #12
                        Country, Why can't you just start your own thread for those of you that are for slaughter?

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                        • #13
                          I phoned and faxed my two senators (Boxer and Feinstein) and am going to fax as many other senators as I can without my boss catching me!!

                          I heard elsewhere that the calls and faxes are getting some notice...keep it up everyone!
                          Until they are safe.
                          www.safehorses.org

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                          • #14
                            I already contacted my senators, and talked to someone in Senator Lugars office and he told me that they are getting a loooot of calls today. He asked me questions also and I was very willing to talk to him as to why I am against slaughter. With the other senator all I was able to do was voice that I am against slaughter and that was it. I also called the IL. senators....

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                            • #15
                              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gazenna:
                              Country, Why can't you just start your own thread for those of you that are for slaughter? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              Why? She just proved that horsemeat is used in pet food.

                              Putting Flame suit on...
                              And what is so wrong with horse slaughter? It's better then them standing in a field starving to death. I think they need to find a way to put them down without suffering and more humane shipping to the plants. That's what needs to be changed.

                              Tell me, what will happen to the horses if the bill is passed? Are you and the rest of you Anti-slaughter people going to take them under your wing? Are you going to pay for their care until they die of old age?

                              What about Cows, Pigs, Goats, Lambs, Chickens? Is it ok for them to be slaughtered?

                              I'm not trying to be snarky but I want to know. If I could have it my way, there wouldn't be any suffering of animals including humans.
                              "Common sense is so rare nowadays, it should be classified as a super power."-Craig Bear Laubscher

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                              • #16
                                Got about half the list faxed at this point...
                                Until they are safe.
                                www.safehorses.org

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                                • #17
                                  Nikki....Country is a he not a she not that it matters.aAs far as horses standing out in a field straving. Most people that have let horses strave do let them strave with no intentions of getting rid of them first. I have seen it happen over and over. And also as far as what will happen to all those horses, well that remains to be seen does it not. Maybe some people with be less likely to just dump their horses off at a sale and decide to put just a little more effort into fixing a problem that they may be having with their horse. Maybe some people will be less likely to breed every mare they have to find that perfect horse that they think will come out of their mare.Maybe the people who use lies to buy someones advertized horse that they think is gonna go to a good home will stop doing that. Maybe the cruelity and abuse at the auctions will cease since breaking laws at those places seems to be exceptable, and nothing gets done about it. Maybe horse thieves will think twice about stealing other peoples horses. Maybe other cruel sports where horses are used and tortured for the spectators pleasure will stop. There are many more maybes I am sure. So why are you for slaughter? Do you or someone in your family deal with slaughter bound horses? As far as all of us that are anti slaughter and your remark about taken all those horses that would have gone to slaughter under our wings, that is a ridiculous question cause those horses just will never fall in our laps it is up to the owners of those horses to be responsiable for them. Now that is not saying if one would happen to come my way that I would not do whats right and take him/her under my wing so to speak. I am certain that most if not all anti slaughter people feel like I do.....

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                                  • #18
                                    For all your maybes theres a maybe not. Until some thought has gone into the end result of this bill I'm against it. Its basically axbill just to have one no long term thought has gone into it. Pretty much done on emotion nothing else. I'm for horse welfare not peoples agendas.
                                    Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                                    • #19
                                      BTW gazenna I've asked this before but never got an answer but could you explain your therory that breeding makes more horse go to slaugher. We slaugher about 6 times fewer horses now then 10 years ago but theres about 30% more horses in the U.S. now then 10 years ago. The numbewrs don't come close to supporting your claim.

                                      And horse theif will decline? Why? The anti slaugher groups say it will not be profatable to haul truck loads of horses to plants in Can. and Mex. So how is it profatable for someone to steal a horse and sell it at a plant in the U.S.?
                                      Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                                      • #20
                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by county:
                                        BTW gazenna I've asked this before but never got an answer but could you explain your therory that breeding makes more horse go to slaugher. We slaugher about 6 times fewer horses now then 10 years ago but theres about 30% more horses in the U.S. now then 10 years ago. The numbewrs don't come close to supporting your claim.


                                        County have you read the white paper or not, it answers this question quite well? http://www.trfinc.org/news/TRF_WhitePaper.pdf

                                        And horse theif will decline? Why? The anti slaugher groups say it will not be profatable to haul truck loads of horses to plants in Can. and Mex. So how is it profatable for someone to steal a horse and sell it at a plant in the U.S.? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        Boy I don't get this statement? "How is it profitable to steal a horse and sell it to slaughter?" Doesn't that answer itself?

                                        As far has trucking horses into Canada and Mexico for slaughter, the way fuel prices are going this will not be a profitable undertaking, once HR 503 passes it would be illegal and hardly worth the money for a black market.

                                        Your above statement says it all, we are slaughtering far fewer horses and have a larger population of horses in the US. Obviously people are being more responsible, certainly the stats don't indicate an abuse and neglect rise. Those who are left are irresponsible owners and breeders, those who are duped at auctions and yes, stolen horses. Once again boils down to money, money, money.............
                                        NO HORSES TO SLAUGHTER CLIQUE
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