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URGENT ACTION NEEDED TODAY! Update: Anti slaughter amendment vote today!!! 9/14

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  • #41
    Gail I was wondering how the Senate was going to get anything done with the hearings going on (amazing how someone can talk non-stop and say nothing) (Brown) .

    County skinny horses certainly are bought by middleman, taken to feedlots and fattened up, then sold to slaughter, happens all the time.

    Mysticaldreamer, that mare your talking about sounds like a good candidate to be euthanized not sent to slaughter. The sad fact is many of these so called mean and unmanagable horses are the fault of people. Be it abuse, neglect or poor breeding, very few horses are born rogue and then it can usually be traced back to poor breeding. I have been around horses almost my whole life, I can count 2 horses that would fit that description, one was woefully neglected, the other I don't know. Also most horses that end up in the slaughterhouses are NOT mean and unmanagable, quite the opposite. It seems we become very good at creating problems and then finding the easiest out, better yet one that can make us money too.
    NO HORSES TO SLAUGHTER CLIQUE
    http://www.cafepress.com/maneshirts

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    • #42
      Sweaty,

      thanks for putting my thoughts into words and posting here!

      Today's local paper featured a "rescue from slaughter success story", Rescue Story,
      I hope some of our local government officials read their papers with their morning coffees.

      I appreciate the media for finally doing stories like this to make more folks aware of what goes on in our backyards (namely Shepherdsville). This is horse country after all, and we pride ourselves in our horse industry!
      ************************
      \"Horses lend us the wings we lack\"

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      • #43
        Skinny young horses are, meat buyers have no use for skinny old horses, takes way to long to fatten them.
        Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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        • #44
          Country, Have you ever been told you are rude? Whats important to me is trying to make a difference for horses, not you. I will not comment on anything else you say, instead I will use you to give me that much more incentive to do what I try to do.

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          • #45
            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Welp - Guess what, slaughter is illegal here in MO </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

            OMG!!! But Puppy Mills aren't?????... what ***^% laws in MO
            Aefvue Farm Ft.Lauderdale

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            • #46
              gazenna whats at the top of my priority list is making a diiferance for livestock also. And your at least on this board the biggest example of why I do what I do.

              And look back at all your posts from you to me on this thread and others on this board and tell me there not rude. And be honest
              Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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              • #47
                Hmmmm?
                Not sure where that came from, but

                Wished they were illegal. Not that anyone follows the horse slaughter laws here in MO anyway. The killer sellers just take them over to Illinois and sell them for meat there, right over the line about 30 miles from where I live.

                Ever been in puppy mill country in MO? Quite interesting. (banjo - please) (ammonia please). The puppy mill people are not really people, yet I think they are aliens, or felons, meth heads.

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                  #48
                  Yet another change on the schedule!

                  Please, make more calls now! The full bill is up next and the amendment at any time. We need everyone to flood the Hill!!!!!!!!!!!

                  You can watch live on C-Span 2

                  Gail
                  www.horse-protection.org

                  No Horses to Slaughter Clique

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                  • #49
                    Let us know -

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                    • #50
                      Geez Country, I have no trouble admitting if I have souned rude, and maybe at times I have, but the words I use come from deep inside of me. How can you say that you really care about the wefare of horses that end up at the slaughter house when there is so much deception used in this business?
                      Maybe there is a little piece of you that really wants to help the slaughter bound horses, but how can you sincerely help them and be as pro slaughter as you are, it makes zero sense to me. I have read before that you have horses at home that you do consider your pets, and you have said those horses will live out their lives with you. Could you please tell me why those horses are special to you? Are those horses special to you personally or to you family?

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                      • #51
                        Same reason/s some of the cattle, hogs, and sheep I've had are or have been pets and most the rest have been livestock. Same reason/s that some of the people I've met in my life have become very good freinds while others are just people I meet. None of any species are exactly the same.
                        Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                          #52
                          It looks as though the Commerce Appropriations bill is going to take up the rest of the day.

                          The Ag Appropriations bill (and our amendment) are next on the docket following Commerce.

                          My guess is our bill wont be up til early tomorrow.

                          Please keep those faxes and calls going out!
                          Im told that they are really getting a lot of calls, nevertheless, we need to keep this groundswell going a little bit longer!

                          Thanks to everyone for working so hard on behalf of the horses!

                          Gail
                          www.horse-protection.org

                          No Horses to Slaughter Clique

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                          • #53
                            True, that mare could have been euthanized, but I had no control over that. The owner did. I would rather see her go to slaughter than be left in a pasture and starved or negleted. That particular instance was bad breeding.

                            Again, I must support Country.
                            Morgan

                            *Let God into your heart for He IS your Hero.

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                            • #54
                              any vote yet?

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                              • #55
                                I just called both of my senators again. Sen. Spectors office brushed me off, but Sen. Santorum's office took my name and address, and said that I would receive an answer on his position via the mail. Hope I wasn't too late for the vote.

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                                • #56
                                  Is there a website with the information on who voted for and against the slaughter act in the house. I would like to know who I am voting for next term.
                                  Thanks!!

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                                  • #57
                                    No vote yet, there is some talk right now that it will be postponed til next week. Anyone have verification?
                                    NO HORSES TO SLAUGHTER CLIQUE
                                    http://www.cafepress.com/maneshirts

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                                    • #58
                                      I received notification that they would not vote until next week.

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                                      • #59
                                        They are voting on the Commerce bill right now...Agriculture bill is next up, but I believe Frist just said on the floor that votes will not happen until Monday. I am watching to see if the amendment is at least introduced today.
                                        Until they are safe.
                                        www.safehorses.org

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                                        • #60
                                          I hope the bill doesn't pass.

                                          Here are some tidbits of info that everyone might find interesting, some of which are actual facts and others are JMO:
                                          - The average age of horses slaughtered are 1-2 years old, about the same age as cows.
                                          - Horses go from an auction to a feedlot where they spend weeks/months wallowing in piles of grain, they get free range on the eating, I'm sure it's a terrible experience for them. LOL
                                          - If slaughter is banned then horses bound for slaughter will be forced to travel for longer periods of time to get to their destination.
                                          - No we don't have a problem with an excess amount of horses currently, but if there's no horse slaughter industry then we probably will be.
                                          - I'm sure cows, pigs, chickens etc are just as "terrified" as horses are when they "meat" their maker (sorry about the pun LOL) So what's the difference between horses and these other animals? Many view them as pets, and many of them are pets to us.
                                          - No I wouldn't ever send one of my horses for slaughter but what right do I have to tell other people what to do with their animals.
                                          - If people can't send their unwanted horses to slaughter, what will they do with them instead? Find another way to dispose of them that might not be as "humane".
                                          - Horses are classified as livestock.
                                          - How will these "laws" be enforced?
                                          - Horses and all animals should be treated humanely throughout the process of transport and slaughter. They should ride in trailers tall enough for them, and they should get breaks for rest, food and water.

                                          Anyhow that's just how I see the whole issue of horse slaughter, no need to flame me, I was just stating my view from the other side of the fence.
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