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Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.
2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.
3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.
4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.
Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.
Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.
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When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:
Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.
Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.
Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.
Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.
Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.
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Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.
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(Revised 2/8/18)
Board Rules
1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.
This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.
Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.
Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.
2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.
3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.
4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.
Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.
Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.
Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:
Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.
Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.
Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.
Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.
Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.
Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.
Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.
5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.
6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.
If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.
Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.
7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.
8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.
Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.
Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!
(Revised 2/8/18)
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I've never dealt with Camelot. A friend of mine sent me the link because she wanted help going and getting a mini from there that isn't in the website anymore. Unfortunately, I can't do much but spread the word and donate when I have the money. As a college student there isn't exactly enough money to properly buy & take care of a horse. As soon as I have the ability to do more I plan on it. But at least getting the word out helps :-/. I wish i could save them all. No animal deserves to be dumped. They didn't ask to be overbred, badly bred, ect. All they want is to be loved.
The part that bothers me is how these poor animals are treated once the meat buyers get their hands on them. I didn't realize that the rescues were so involved at Camelot. I've only ever heard about horses going to meat from there.
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Xbittersweet, no need to cry
Camelot does an AMAZING job as someone said and yes, almost every horse ends up being sold. As of right now, of the 19 horses in the pen as of Wednesday night, only 2, yes TWO are still available, hip no's 533 and 535. The stocky large pony mare and the ridgy wb type gelding.
If you want to help spread the word about available horses, go on FB and 'LIKE' Camelot Horse Weekly. Nowadays, I think you'll also want to specify that you want all updates.
It's important that people check the list and spread the word, because even if you're not looking your friends (and friends of friends) might be. I emailed a friend in Colorado because for $300, I think that pony might be great for her daughter!~Kryswyn~ Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo
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It's even sadder going there in person - I had to stop. It's very sad. But again, there are so many unwanted horses out there, for whatever reason. If a person can't afford to pay next month's feed bill (or whatever other reason), then off they go.
I know some people who got nice horses there, and others who got horses with serious problems. They are not misrepresenting the horses, you just don't know what you are going to get (and they don't either). You are taking a gamble when you're buying from there. As long as you know that going in ...
It used to be the kill pen was full of the junk horses - the ones that were lame, or very, very old, or super skinny - not so much anymore. Signs of the economy I guess.
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Somebody go get that foxhunting mare! She is beautiful.
My own pony was a throw away, she was found on the side of the rode as a two year old. She is an absolute champ and I love her to death.
There are worse fates than the auction, the auctions are generally run by 'animal people' who have an interest in making sure those horses survive, receive food and water and maybe someone will rescue them. In the midwest we have a problem with people that just turn horses loose in state parks and such, not realizing that just because a horse can graze does not mean it will survive on its own.A student in all things.
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Yep. There are worse ends than being run through the auction and shipped, even. I still remember the pictures of Mr. ABJ (who didn't make it), and just recently on CL there was a listing for a horse who'd been found wandering by the side of the road. He'd been rehabbed and no one ever claimed him. Getting locked in the barn or pipe corral without food or getting turned loose to fend for themselves is a terrible way to go. Horses can't just live off the land, but some people apparently can't even be bothered to haul to a sale or find anyone, even a broker, to take it.Originally posted by HappyGirl77 View PostSomebody go get that foxhunting mare! She is beautiful.
My own pony was a throw away, she was found on the side of the rode as a two year old. She is an absolute champ and I love her to death.
There are worse fates than the auction, the auctions are generally run by 'animal people' who have an interest in making sure those horses survive, receive food and water and maybe someone will rescue them. In the midwest we have a problem with people that just turn horses loose in state parks and such, not realizing that just because a horse can graze does not mean it will survive on its own.
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Originally posted by danceronice View PostYep. There are worse ends than being run through the auction and shipped, even. I still remember the pictures of Mr. ABJ (who didn't make it), and just recently on CL there was a listing for a horse who'd been found wandering by the side of the road. He'd been rehabbed and no one ever claimed him. Getting locked in the barn or pipe corral without food or getting turned loose to fend for themselves is a terrible way to go. Horses can't just live off the land, but some people apparently can't even be bothered to haul to a sale or find anyone, even a broker, to take it.
Yeah, like that mare and foal Sunkissed took in not too long ago, starved...found with 2 dead stallions on the property....
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At least Frank is honest.Originally posted by Kryswyn View PostXbittersweet, no need to cry
Camelot does an AMAZING job as someone said and yes, almost every horse ends up being sold. As of right now, of the 19 horses in the pen as of Wednesday night, only 2, yes TWO are still available, hip no's 533 and 535. The stocky large pony mare and the ridgy wb type gelding.
If you want to help spread the word about available horses, go on FB and 'LIKE' Camelot Horse Weekly. Nowadays, I think you'll also want to specify that you want all updates.
It's important that people check the list and spread the word, because even if you're not looking your friends (and friends of friends) might be. I emailed a friend in Colorado because for $300, I think that pony might be great for her daughter!I wasn't always a Smurf
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