• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 2/8/18)
See more
See less

Does this offend you?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by norahlee:
    I suspected that this name, Not See, was an unintended slur. Like the software program named "Publish It." Did they EVER say the name out loud?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Love is all there is<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    AHHHHHHHH, that's hysterical!!! Wonder if that indicates the quality you get with the product! ROFL!!

    To you, she's a horse. To me, she's a family member who is big, hairy, walks on all fours and is easily startled.
    ~Colleen
    ~Colleen
    www.ohiotrailriding.com/reflection.htm

    Comment


    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by starboard:
      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jumphigh83:
      The horses name IS NOT Nazi ..it is NOT SEE. Could we all please jump off the PC bandwagon and get a life?
      <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

      Why must you be nasty? Its simply a question, and it moved you enough to post a nasty reply.

      Would the name Fah Ker Harder offend you? After all, the name isnt actually Profane. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

      I agree with jumphigh. I do not have trouble with names such as that, but then I actually enunciate when I speak.

      And the second name is absolutely brilliant. Pity I'd never get away with it.

      My free advice; loosen your thong and have a laugh. You'll live longer.

      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rugbug:
      True at one point, but doesn't this bumper sticker point to the Civil War, slavery etc? It doesn't bother me that someone would choose a "Southern" lifestyle but it does bother me when someone points back to a time of oppression and glorifies it. I admittedly have a bias against the confederate flag in all forms because, to me, it signifies oppression/racism. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

      And it signifies something entirely different to just as many people -their heritage and all its glory. FWIW, it is just as big a travesty to assume the civil war was fought over slavery as it is to assume that those who wave that flag are white supremists. I do not know a single Southerner who longs for the days of slavery to return but they are fiercely loyal to their past.

      I actually own part of a Nazi flag. Am I going to burn it? Hell no. My grandfather immigrated from what was Prussia as a child. He comes from a long line of atristocrats who bred horses and cavalry officers. Most of his family served in Hilter's armies by default. Because of the stigma, it took 20 years of research to actually find out who we were as grandfather wasn't talking nor was he originally willing to share a chest that contained the last of his family's belongings from home.

      Nor does it bother my in-laws who lived through the WWII bombings of Yorkshire and London (my mother-in-law actually had a bomb come through their barn roof and not explode).

      So while we do not wave the flag from our porch, it is kept safe and will be passed to my son when the time comes. But then, I also have a photo of two great-great-uncles standing outside a tent in their Confederate uniforms on my mantle. I think that history is something to be learned from and remembered, not abhorred to the point of it's becoming unspeakable.

      Susie
      Royal Oak Sporthorses
      Dutch Warmbloods & British Sporthorses.

      Comment


      • Not See = Nazi?

        I am German and would never have had the idea of making that connection myself. To me, that are not even sound alikes.

        I really do believe that nick is nothing more than a personnal thing of the owner, who never thought of what "outsiders" might think or hear.

        If the name was meant as a soundalike of nazi, however, I wouldn't be offended but shocked and frightened.

        Anyone who is concerned about his dignity would be well advised to keep away from horses. (Prince Philip)
        --------------------------------
        Anyone who is concerned about his dignity would be well advised to keep away from horses. (Prince Philip)

        Comment


        • Well said, Celtic Witch

          II===II SUZ II===II
          "On second thought, let's not go to Camelot, 'tis a silly place"
          *No Regrets, Sentimental Journey, & Miz Scarlett*
          SCer's Clique**Group W Bench Clique**Packrats Anonymous Clique**Flying Horsewomen Clique*
          Crayola posse~ orange yellow, official pilot
          Proud owner of "High Flight" & "Shorty"

          Comment


          • Hey everyone. Not See is in my barn. He is a lovely horse with a lovely owner. His name comes from his show name, "Not Supposed to Be" because he was a suprise foal. He is really a wonderful animal, and absolutely gorgeous. I can't say enough for him or his owner, meeting them in person is truthfully the only way you would understand how wonderful they are (she's my barn manager). Hopefully Not See will find a great new owner within the next few months.
            If you are offended by his name, sorry but its his name and you are reading into it a little to far.

            Sugartowne II- "French Fry"
            Ears To 'Ya- "Jake"
            http://community.webshots.com/album/86540446bdOIrj
            Here today, gone tomorrow...

            Comment


            • Okay with all this talk about Not See we need to see a picture!

              Comment




              • six pages and you are still at it?!

                Much addo about nothing, to quote Shakespeare...

                I have to say, I get more offended by people who made it their life's work to find something to be offended by, usually fits a certain demographic group....


                But a couple of points I wanted to add, Kamikaze does not mean suicide bomber - at least not from the getgo, it means *Devine Wind*.
                Y'all need to watch "Midway" and "Tora Tora Tora" more often...a term derived from Japanese history...longtime before WWII....

                And lastly, the Civilwar was not about slavery, most folks could've cared less about it, bt it was a nice tool to achieve victory, kind of like shooting the Indian Ponies....
                According to my information, Maryland, as Union State also had Slavery, and did not abbolish it with the Emancipation Proclamation, but some time after the war...talking about double standart....


                That where mu 4 cents worth, carry on!

                Talk Spotted Dogs
                http://pub31.ezboard.com/fdalmatianp...ssageboardfrm1

                Comment


                • Celtic Witch, that was a good post - my stepfather was in WWII at 18, landed at D-Day, got shot in France, etc. We have a copy of Mein Kampf downstairs that they jacked from someone's library (it has the name of the newly-weds it was presented to in the front), in addition to a Nazi flag that he also 'liberated'. It lives downstairs in the basement. I look at it as his war memorabilia, the same as the bullet casing they removed from him that lives on his key chain (Airport security tried to remove it as a 'weapon' - he was so angry he could barely speak, and FINALLY one of the higher-ups realized it was a bullet casing that was over 60 years old and was NOT leaving his keychain under any circumstances. It was almost as bad as the WWII vet who was carrying his Medal of Honor - and airport security tried to confiscate it as a weapon! ). We're certainly not Nazis. It's history.

                  The Civil War WAS about slavery - all this stuff about state's rights and citizens rights is bunk once you realize that Southern states were trampling all over the rights of their citizenry (who needs the right to free speech and freedom of press?). The SPREAD of slavery (or lackthereof) was the crux of the issue for YEARS leading up to the Civil War - Missouri Compromise anyone? The Compromise of 1850? Abolition was what the radicals talked of, but the spread of slavery was very MUCH in the forefront of politicians' mind, as well as regular people. Was the average person on either side fighting specifically for/against slavery? I doubt it - but let's not ignore the root causes of the war. Yes, the Emancipation Proclamation had serious political ramifications, and if a number of things had happened before (ie, overwhelming Union victory at Antietam, Union defeat, etc.) the course of the war would've been greatly altered. Alagirl, the border states (MD, Kentucky, etc.) were a touchy issue. Lincoln NEEDED their support and courted them, essentially. Luckily for him, when the Confederates 'invaded' Kentucky and set up there in the Western Theatre, they REALLY irked the Kentuckians, who threw their lot in (generally) with the Union. Actually, Lincoln tried to persuade the border states to accept a compensated emancipation plan, which they refused - he then went ahead with the Emancipation Proclamation. Pick up James McPherson's "Battle Cry of Freedom", one of the (IMHO) best Civil War books out there.

                  'O lente, lente currite noctis equi' - Ovid

                  Comment


                  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Actually, Lincoln tried to persuade the border states to accept a compensated emancipation plan, which they refused - he then went ahead with the Emancipation Proclamation. Pick up James McPherson's "Battle Cry of Freedom", one of the (IMHO) best Civil War books out there <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


                    I guess that accounts for the quote contributed to Lincoln: *If I could save the Union without freeing a single Slave I would do so*

                    The civil war was also about deniing the states legal right to secceed from the Union...Screw the civil rights (and don't get me started on the Indian wars following that!)
                    It has become PC to say that it was about Slavery...so most books will declare it this way. (Just watch the Simpsons, when Apu takes his Citicenship test: There where multiple reasons starting with....Just say Slavery...Slavery it is....)

                    But come to think of it, the political arena hasn't changed much. Abolitionists got much support due to the bleeding heart novel(in the best of meaning) *Uncle Tom's Cabin* While the Indian wars were fuel by dimenovels and tabloidstyle newspaper reports...Nowadays legislation gets it's starting point by much the same means...prompted by the panicy masses...

                    And quiet frankly, It irkes me when the deporable living conditions and child labor of the slaves are pointed out, when at the same time the majority of workers, both in the American north as well as in Europe where living just as bad or even worth, with just as little means to escape this vicious cycle, just because they where so poor, they could not afford to walk of into the sunset! And let us not forget the (Irish need not aply) phase the country went through...

                    But this is getting way off the topic now!

                    Talk Spotted Dogs
                    http://pub31.ezboard.com/fdalmatianp...ssageboardfrm1

                    Comment

                    • Original Poster

                      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alagirl:


                      six pages and you are still at it?!
                      <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                      at what, exactly? a conversation? Gasp, a discussion? Its not ok for people to weigh in on a question? God forbid we discuss something other than helmets and "critique me" threads. If it bothers you, then dont read the thread. I find it interesting, and since I'm the one that started the topic, I'll keep the conversation open. that ok with everyone?

                      Comment


                      • Doesn't offend me one bit. There are only a few things that do offend me, people who use racist and biased words FOR THAT REASON. And occaisionally when they are just plain ignorant.

                        IMHO this doesn't fall under either of those two,so nope, not me!

                        - - - - - -
                        "We learn from history that we do not learn from history." ~ George Bernard Shaw
                        - - - - - -
                        \"I found my inner bitch and ran with her.\" ~ Courtney Love

                        Comment


                        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by starboard:
                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alagirl:


                          six pages and you are still at it?!
                          <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          at what, exactly? a conversation? Gasp, a discussion? Its not ok for people to weigh in on a question? God forbid we discuss something other than helmets and "critique me" threads. If it bothers you, then dont read the thread. I find it interesting, and since I'm the one that started the topic, I'll keep the conversation open. that ok with everyone? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


                          Are you offended that I stated the obvious?
                          Where you are trying to offend me?
                          Do you find it offensive when I am am not offended?



                          Talk Spotted Dogs
                          http://pub31.ezboard.com/fdalmatianp...ssageboardfrm1

                          Comment


                          • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alagirl:
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by starboard:
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alagirl:

                            six pages and you are still at it?!
                            <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            at what, exactly? a conversation? Gasp, a discussion? Its not ok for people to weigh in on a question? God forbid we discuss something other than helmets and "critique me" threads. If it bothers you, then dont read the thread. I find it interesting, and since I'm the one that started the topic, I'll keep the conversation open. that ok with everyone? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            Are you offended that I stated the obvious?
                            Where you are trying to offend me?
                            Do you find it offensive when I am am not offended?

                            <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            I am absolutely offended that you are not offended by starboard's offense taken at your comment!!!

                            Comment


                            • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I am absolutely offended that you are not offended by starboard's offense taken at your comment!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              Now THAT is truely offensive....

                              Talk Spotted Dogs
                              http://pub31.ezboard.com/fdalmatianp...ssageboardfrm1

                              Comment


                              • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by starboard:
                                Would the name Fah Ker Harder offend you? After all, the name isnt actually Profane. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                Your made up name doesn't actually MEAN anything, whereas Not See does mean something completely unrelated to what you're jumping to.

                                Everything offends me, and I'm not offended.
                                Visit my barefoot blog:
                                http://barefoothoofcare.wordpress.com/
                                "I don't mean to brag, I don't mean to boast, but I'm intercontinental when I eat French toast" ~ Beastie Boys

                                Comment


                                • The states rights everyone yells about as starting the Civil War was the state's right to determine for themselves whether they would allow slavery and not let that decision go to the Federal Gov't. When the Confederacy formed their Gov't, the right to keep slaves was listed right in the...the...Successionist papers? Whatever..the Confederacy's version of a constitution.
                                  *****
                                  You will not rise to the occasion, you will default to your level of training.

                                  Comment


                                  • I'm not offended. Just like I wouldn't be offended to find a dog named Yankee or Rebel, or a cat named Axis or Conquistador. They're just names I suppose it just seems to me like knowing someone named "Bob" who was a real jerk, and then having a bias against anyone else you meet named Bob because they had the same name.

                                    Out of curiosity, would those who are offended still be offended if the name was something like "Knottsy" - maybe on a little shetland pony who was infamous for always being able to untie herself?? I just can't imagine being offended if a little 8 yr old girl came up and asked if I'd seen her pony Knottsy who had untied the knot and escaped again.

                                    I suppose the same holds true for Not See - I would assume there's a story or breeding behind it. In fact, I didn't "get it" until someone typed it out, even though I said it out loud.

                                    Is anyone offended by the name "The British are coming?" Or "Atom Bomb" or "Pearl Harbor" or "Ring around the Rosie" or "American Revolution" or "Mason-Dixon" or how about the famous QH mare "White Trash," dam of Trashedeous(sp?) who was named thusly because she had too much chrome to count as a QH and not enough to count as a paint.

                                    Or how about the name "Strapless," for that certainly could lead to implied sexual connotation.

                                    If you are offended, I'm truly sorry, because I don't think that offending anyone was the point of the name "Not See," and the owner would probably feel horrible if s/he knew that it caused this much fuss. Anyway, even if the horse was named something like "Sheezaslutt," there's still freedom of speech, and perhaps there are greater worries in this world than a horse's name based on someone's perverse sense of humor. JMHO.

                                    "You people have held me back long enough! I'm going to join a clown college."

                                    Prayers for Silver
                                    ------------------------------------
                                    \"There\'s nothing we can\'t face... except for bunnies.\"
                                    -\'Once more, with feeling\" (BtVS)

                                    Comment


                                    • Oxerbound - heh. We have the same signature.

                                      Cheers,
                                      Susie
                                      http://www.kachoom.com

                                      "That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college!" ~Homer Simpson
                                      "That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college!" ~Homer Simpson

                                      Comment


                                      • Methinks someone starched their knickers...(nickers, neighkers, kniicker...)

                                        Comment


                                        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FrenchFrytheEqHorse:
                                          Not See is in my barn. If you are offended by his name, sorry but its his name<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                          Well, actually, it doesn't HAVE to be his name FOR LIFE. If it's just a call name, so the call name could just be "Not".

                                          Comment

                                          Working...
                                          X