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    #81
    Ok ... so I just got a HUGE re-motivator. I got chucked into and over an XC fence by my pony. (ouch ... I don't want to hit the ground THAT hard again)

    I might have an opportunity to go schooling (at my level) with a top notch event coach but I'm really worried about getting "you're not fit enough, you shouldn't be eventing" comments. (this is the fittest I've been riding-wise since I started competing again) I don't need to get undercut but I need the schooling mileage. (obviously after last weekend) Any thoughts guys???

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    • #82
      Personally, I don't see a big problem. I gained 50 pounds from 2 1/2 years on high doses of steroids and still took up eventing with a new barn and eventing coach. Almost all the people I took lessons with were young thin girls but everyone was very supportive of me and I never heard a single remark about my weight and/or "fitness" from my coach or other riders.

      (now I'm off the drugs after surgery and losing the weight easily--yeah!)

      Similarly, if you had some type of physical handicap that challenged you but didn't make riding unsafe I can't imagine you'd be "undercut".

      If we manage, throughout our training to preserve both the gentleness and the gaiety of our horse we shall not, in the end, go very far amiss--Wynmalan
      If we manage, throughout our training to preserve both the gentleness and the gaiety of our horse we shall not, in the end, go very far amiss--Wynmalan

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      • #83
        Wow...I just saw this thread and it really hit home. I've struggled for years with my weight (I think I joined WW at 12 for the first time) and my weight has been up and down with numerous different diets etc. I've always been quite active (hockey, horses) but overweight. I'm 6' tall and actually ashamed to say what I weigh in at right now, but it's somewhere between 250 and 300 . Having said that...because of my height and my "big bones" I can successfully wear a bikini and knock em dead at 210.....

        I did the Xenical a couple years ago (it was covered by my drug plan unlike another post I read) and it helped...but was very radical. I dare any of you out there to try to survive on less than 30 grams of fat and 1600 calories a day when you're riding, working etc. And...the side effects are BRUTAL!!!! Don't want to gross you out, but the premise is that the drug stops your body from absorbing a large percentage of the fat that you take in. The rest of it finds its own way out and can lead for some pretty embarassing moments.

        I honestly feel like giving up on this...but I have visions of a thinner, happier, prettier me. I know I can't be driven by the cosmetic....but it is a big part of it I think. I stopped riding and showing for a big part because of the comments....people don't think you can hear them when you're riding but I got a little tired of the "poor horse" comments.

        However...I"m scared SH**LESS about surgery so won't be doing that.

        Anyhow....good luck to everyone and let us know how you're doing. My thoughts are with you guys as well.

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          #84
          lawgrl:

          I guess I'm concerned after the experience of a young friend. She was in an eventing clinic this spring with one of the top level eventers and there was alot of attitude to her and a tirade to her coach about being overweight and having no business eventing ... she's solidly built but not overweight. Granted, not the same person but I struggle with confidence jumping as it is ...


          Rational or not ... things like that make me a little gun-shy. Guess I'm just having an insecurity fit or something ...

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          • #85
            AWIP - Can you or your trainer talk to this coach before you sign up for the schooling session and explain your situation and see what his/her attitude is? You probably don't need or want a lesson with someone who feels the need to announce their issues with larger riders. I think there are empathic coaches out there - especially if they are made aware of a sensitivity ahead of time.

            It seems that sometimes thin people don't fully understand how painfully aware heavier people are of their size - they don't need others to point it out to them.

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            • #86
              I certainly didn't mean to sound unsympathetic--just the opposite! I just wanted to relay that I've been lucky and good coaches are out there that won't give you grief over your weight.

              I totally second the idea of making some discrete inquires beforehand. Personally, I'm amazed at the number of people who are willing to pay good money to be abused (not you .

              For one) as mentioned previously, I know what I weigh--duh!! for two) my weight may honestly not be my "fault", for three) if my weight is holding me back that's my problem and if I'm willing to plunk down my money than I expect trainers to work with what I give them. It may not be fun or easy but that's why it's not free!!!

              If we manage, throughout our training to preserve both the gentleness and the gaiety of our horse we shall not, in the end, go very far amiss--Wynmalan
              If we manage, throughout our training to preserve both the gentleness and the gaiety of our horse we shall not, in the end, go very far amiss--Wynmalan

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              • #87
                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by A_work_in_progress:
                lawgrl:

                I guess I'm concerned after the experience of a young friend. She was in an eventing clinic this spring with one of the top level eventers and there was alot of attitude to her and a tirade to her coach about being overweight and having no business eventing ... she's solidly built but not overweight. Granted, not the same person but I struggle with confidence jumping as it is ...


                Rational or not ... things like that make me a little gun-shy. Guess I'm just having an insecurity fit or something ...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                If your problem is mental, the money would be wiser spent on a shrink.

                A cousin of my husband was always a big guy, all his life.

                Then, after a tragic event in the family he went to see a *shrink*, to help him work through it without additional family crap...and all over sudden, the pounds dropped - rapidly, too.

                So I am thinking, since for most people the weight issues are in their minds - or rather the reasons they can't shed them (only a few really have medical problems...)...why not go the route...

                My husband has been struggling with his weight for several years now, and a few month ago something just clicked, he went on a diet, the one most suited for him, stayed on it and increased his exercise...and it works, but everything before that was half-hearted, he wasn't in it, so it failed...

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                • #88
                  This thread has also hit home with me. I've battled weight issues for years and years. I've recently returned from a great program in Vermont called Green Mountain at Fox Run. It is a retreat for women only that focuses on weight management, fitness, behavior changes, and stress reduction. It is based off of a non-diet philosophy since diets don't work. Well at least for me, if weight watchers or Atkins work for you and you keep the weight off, then that's great. I spent 3 weeks there and learned so much and made so many new great friends with women going through the same things that I am. Their philosophy is to throw out the scale, so I don't know how much weight I have lost in the last 5 weeks but I know that I feel great and my clothes fit better. For the emotional and compulsive eaters, check out books by Geneen Roth such as "Feeding the Hungry Heart" and "When you eat at the refrigerator, pull up a chair."

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                  • #89
                    I am interested in an update on how everyone is doing on their weight loss choices.

                    I am considering doing the Atkins plan since there are more low and no carb choices out there.

                    Comments?

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                    • #90
                      I'm in my third week of the South Beach "diet". I don't weigh, but my jeans are getting baggy and I feel much, much better than I have in a while. Carb cravings are very real! So far I've felt good, have not felt hungry or deprived. I'm eating alot of lettuce and salmon, but I like both anyway. Just no cookies, breads, pasta, etc. which is much easier to stay away from than I thought it would be.

                      It takes some planning to change one's way of eating (grazing...) but I had reached the point where I had no choice, I was feeling lousy and my bad hip was screaming. If you can get past the first few days on this plan, it's really not bad.

                      After the first week, I had a small taste of chocolate (m&m's, so the sugar was there) and about two hours later, I was ready to eat the whole building. Now I have a better understanding of the difference between a craving and true hunger, and how to avoid the cravings. It's amazing.

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                        #91
                        Well ... my update is having dropped nearly 8 lbs since my last post (july 24)

                        Not really following a formal plan ... pretty much consisting of heavy calorie reduction during the week, not worrying about what I'm eating on weekends. (carrying fruit or veggies everywhere for grazing)

                        Started taking CoQ10 as well ... everything I've read recently says its extremely helpful for the heart, lowering BP & sugar metabolization with no toxicity. Some studies linking it to weight gain/weight retention if one is significantly deficient in it. Sounds like it is good for me anyway at worst and could help with this problem at best.
                        (I remembered Dr Atkins mentioning it briefly in his "Diet Revolution" book, I never would have looked at it otherwise) I found more interesting stuff on it but I'm staying off the soapbox (today)

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                        • #92
                          The Atkins Advantage bars have really helped me stick with the low carb plan. I'm not particularly a breakfast person so cooking in the am is out of the question. Between the bars and a bag of almonds handy to my computer, I managed to avoid cravings and keep on track. Oh yeah, sugar free Reeses cups help, too.

                          ... I still have dreams about Monstrpony's fudge though. Once a chocoholic, always a chocoholic.
                          If you believe everything you read, better not read. -- Japanese Proverb

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                          • #93
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Debbie:

                            ... I still have dreams about Monstrpony's fudge though. Once a chocoholic, always a chocoholic. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            I know, I don't know what I'm going to do for all my "fans" at Christmas this year! I'll probably make the fudge lest I be lynched for non-providing, but am going to take a bye on the rest of the baking. Let the skinny people learn how to cook, ferhevinsakes!

                            I've never been a breakfast person, either, but am finding it does make a difference in getting me through the morning. But it is pretty self-limiting after so many years of avoiding food before office coffee.
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                              #94
                              But Monstrpony ... that's one of the reasons WHY they're skinny ....

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                              • #95
                                Well, I weighed my self yesterday, and I've dropped 48lbs since January, doing Weight Watchers Winning pOints, going to Curves for Women 3-4 days a week, and riding everyday. I am thrilled, and got to go new clothes shopping over the weekend--I actually purchased and fit in to a size 8 dress (I'm 6'0 tall). I was so overwhelmed, I almost cried in the dressing room.

                                Those of you low carbing have my respect, but I could never do it, it ain't living to me, LOL. Luckily for me my metabolism has responded well to the Winning POints plan and exercise, though I know this isn't the path for everyone.

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                                • #96
                                  This is an alter.

                                  I was wondering how everyone was doing on their weight losss from surgery.

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                                  • #97
                                    Wow I am glad I found this post. I too have gone up and down in the past. I lost 70# in 2001- early 2002 and now have gained it all back. It makes riding not fun at all. I lost it low carbing and then could not stick to it... I went on BC pills and they did me in. I am so motivated to get back into it again but I like occasional pieces of fruit. What do I do about that?

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                                    • #98
                                      My WLS will be September 26. I can't wait to get this behind me and get on with my new life. I've been thin twice before - but can't keep the weight off. I will be getting a wonderful foal from Sonesta in 2005. Getting back to riding was one of my main objectives in having this surgery done. This will be a total change of lifestyle. The surgery in itself will not be the answer to anyone's weight loss. You have to be willing to change your entire lifestyle.

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                                      • #99
                                        Well... I am not "on a diet" per se, but I have changed what and how I eat. I have cut out the fat from my diet and eat only if I am actually hungry. I drink water in between meals. I have not eaten at any fast food place in 8 months. I'm eating whole grains, fruit, veggies, and a little meat (chicken, lean roast beef, or fish). Not counting calories. Just trying to eat healthy food.

                                        Since April, I have lost 41 pounds. I'm feeling good and have noticed an increase in energy level. Funny, the whole thing started while I was on a cruise. I lost 5 pounds on the cruise, instead of gaining weight like most people do. I took a close look at what I had eaten on the cruise. Given a choice, and not having to prepare it myself, I had made good, healthy decisions. I continued eating like this, losing 30 pounds. I plateaued about 2 weeks before I went on another cruise. That got me started again, and since Aug 5 I have lost another 11 pounds. I guess I need to go on more cruises...


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                                        • &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;She went back and was told that there is a condition in overweight women that instead of being frankly diabetic, they are insulin resistant and gain weight without overeating. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Has anyone investigated or tried the Montignac method? I just read about it.

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