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  • Kestrel
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    I had a well-meaning person put a 5" arab-type bridle path on my AA hunter. I was not a happy camper. I explained to her that while it may be the right way in her world, it was a big faux-pas in mine, and I would handle all mane trims and show clips (as it was down to the skin and baby-oiled) from here on out.

    She was a lovely person, but not aware of the differences in turnout between our worlds.

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  • RNB
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    Wow, IF....I would have been livid!!!

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  • ESG
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    Originally posted by OverandOnward View Post
    Of course you are right that no one should clip or in any way change the appearance of someone else's horse without permission.

    That said ... 3 weeks from a major show is the time to stay in hyper-vigilance mode.
    Are you kidding? Who, I ask, could have foreseen something like this?!?!?

    I think you're being way too hard on the OP. She tried to do something nice for someone else. BTDT. Perhaps you haven't. But no good deed goes unpunished.


    IMO - have noticed there are some BNR's who need to stamp this on their brains. Missed major team competitions, international trips, 4*'s, etc. due to injuries from professional and personal activities that were part of normal life for them. But for some period of time, maybe 4-6 weeks, they needed to make a change to be sure there was no missing that big show. Some normal activities need to be curtailed or practiced with extreme watchfulness and care.
    And what, pray, does this have to do with the OP's situation?

    I do agree with you about how wrong the borrowing friend was. Under any circumstances I would be crazed about this, myself.
    Thank you for saying that. It somewhat restores my hope that you actually have some common sense, and some connection to what actually occurs on Planet Earth.

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  • Ghazzu
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    Originally posted by CrackTheLatch View Post
    Dear Horse gods, It's a Fjord, not an Arabian. I don't know what I would have done, but there would have been tears followed by some serious emotional trauma.
    Hell, I have *Arabs* and I'd be ripping mad if that were done to one of mine.
    And the trauma would be more than mental if anyone barbered my hosses.

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  • Wholehearted
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    Dear Horse gods, It's a Fjord, not an Arabian. I don't know what I would have done, but there would have been tears followed by some serious emotional trauma.

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  • Alagirl
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    Originally posted by analise View Post
    Weighaton,

    A Fjord's mane should look awesome.

    http://www.equestrianandhorse.com/im...ny_1728820.jpg

    Also found this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQwQSVNZd5g
    LOL, I thought they made a plywood template they clamped over the mane to buzz it....

    I know, I know....

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  • katie+tru
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    Almost as bad as the time my trainer's horse received a serious tail banging from an unknown stylist at a horse trial. Honest to god, they came back and his tail was cut off. No clue who did it.

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  • analise
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    Weighaton,

    A Fjord's mane should look awesome.

    http://www.equestrianandhorse.com/im...ny_1728820.jpg

    Also found this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQwQSVNZd5g

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  • gaitedincali
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    Originally posted by asb_own_me View Post
    You would let her know? Seriously? How about asking permission, since BORROWING a horse means the horse is not your horse to clip as you please. Good grief.

    Wow.
    Umm yeah, I'd let her know what I was going to do before I'd do it, so she could say yay or nay.

    In other words - OMG I'd ask if it was OK first!1!!!! How terrible of me.

    Good grief.

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  • Weighaton
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    I know nothing of the breed standard so I am curious what the mane is supposed to look like?

    Is having a four inch section missing better than just roaching the whole thing off?

    As an aside, I am sorry this has happened. What a nightmare so close to an important day. Good luck.

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  • Horsegal984
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    Wow, I too thought you were going to be complaining about Show Sheen or something equally "shiny." I just borrowed a horse for a show this weekend, and my show prep for him included pulling his mane, trimming legs,muzzle, ears and bridle path, and banging his tail. However, I've also been riding him for 2 years and know his owner is FAR more liberal with the use of clipper and scizzors than I will ever be! Had it been a horse or owner I was not so familiar with his normal show grooming prep I would have asked the owner to either be there to assist or be very specific on what/how much trimming they were ok with.

    I just can't imagine going to town with somebody elses horse like that! Well..... sorta..... I did paint aforementioned horse up like an Appaloosa once since I know how much owner "loves" them...... But not 3 weeks before a freaking breed show/inspection!!

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  • Rel6
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    Ok, NOWHERE does show ring ready mean a 4inch section of mane missing!

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  • OverandOnward
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    Originally posted by IronwoodFarm View Post
    ...
    This is a Norwegian Fjord mare and the appearance of the mane is VERY IMPORTANT. As you well know, she is going to the ONLY national evaluation in the US this year for her breed in 3 weeks time. She will be going with a complete mutant mane thanks to your removing 4+ inches of it. I will look like a fool who is ignorant of the breed standard.
    ...

    P.S. But seriously folks -- don't ever take scissors or clippers to a horse without the owner's express permission.
    Of course you are right that no one should clip or in any way change the appearance of someone else's horse without permission.

    That said ... 3 weeks from a major show is the time to stay in hyper-vigilance mode. No loaning of horse, as well as no doing anything that offers a higher jeopardy of injury, illness, anything else that could stop progress to the show. Other even worse things could have happened, deliberately, mistakenly, or by accident.

    Some of the most critical pro football players sign contracts that dictate the activities they can *not* participate in in their personal lives. Like softball. The star player just cannot miss a pro game because of injuries from sliding home or missing a hard-thrown ball in a friendly game with family/friends.

    IMO - have noticed there are some BNR's who need to stamp this on their brains. Missed major team competitions, international trips, 4*'s, etc. due to injuries from professional and personal activities that were part of normal life for them. But for some period of time, maybe 4-6 weeks, they needed to make a change to be sure there was no missing that big show. Some normal activities need to be curtailed or practiced with extreme watchfulness and care.

    I do agree with you about how wrong the borrowing friend was. Under any circumstances I would be crazed about this, myself.

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  • Ghazzu
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    Ironwood, I'd be farkin' homicidal.
    You're a cooler head than I.

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  • asb_own_me
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    Originally posted by gaitedincali View Post
    To me cleaning up includes clipping legs, face and bridlepath at least. So if I borrowed a horse for a fun show it'd come back clipped. I'd also let you know that upfront.
    You would let her know? Seriously? How about asking permission, since BORROWING a horse means the horse is not your horse to clip as you please. Good grief.

    Wow.

    IronwoodFarm - have you spoken to this person directly since you found out about this? I would really, really LOVE to hear what this person had to say for him/herself.

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  • foundationmare
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    That takes a lot of chutzpah. Banging a tail without the owner's consent....words fail me. It's like sending your kids to the grands for a month in the summer and having them returned with perms and such. Blech!

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  • Grataan
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    Oh jeez. I once borrowed a friend's lovely Fjord (by lovely, I mean mannered, she was pet-quality) mare to take to a local schooling show series. Even though my friend insisted I could "do whatever you want as far as grooming" and such, I still made sure it was ok to trim whiskers and ear fuzz and asked her to do the mane so I wouldn't mess it up.

    That's like me borrowing a QH or a show hunter and clipping one of those huge Arabian halter bridle paths!

    I would feed lots of coat supplements and use MTG or the like daily and hope you can trim it into some semblance of normal. Then, when you get there, blame it on a well-meaning friend or stablemate.

    Someone with 50 years experience in horses and obviously your friend long enough to borrow your horse should know some sort of an idea of your breed's standard should have clarified with you "hey I would like to do a bridlepath and bang poopsie's tail is that ok?"

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  • high hat
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    I broke my leg and could not attend a show with one of my clients. These people had been showing my mare at a few shows and were scheduled to go to another. I gave them permission to take her by themselves. After they got back and I resumed lessons I thought there was something 'funny' about my mare's forelock. I finally realized they had cut several inches off of it; straight across. I was livid and when I asked them they said "oh, yeah we cut it, it will grow back." I regret to this day that I didn't turn to the mom and ask if I could take the kid to get 4 inches of her hair cut off. "Yeah, it will grow back."

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  • JanM
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    I like Cita's idea and doing the reverse mohawk pattern front to back with maybe a big "X" on the back to really get the point across.

    I thought the title meant that they show sheened the entire horse or something to make the horse slippery, and didn't involve clipper mania.

    I would be so mad at that person and I don't know how you stopped yourself from whacking that person a good one when you found out.

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  • SarahandSam
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    I could also understand trimming up whiskers and stuff without it being a big deal, but there's a common-sense line between trimming a few whiskers and cutting a 4" bridle path into a Fjord mane! That's like the difference between trimming up the scraggly fetlocks on my QH and trimming the feathers off a Clydesdale...

    A boarder at my barn once cut off the BO's mini's big massive fluffy mane, because "he looked hot." I don't know how the BO didn't kill her.

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