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  • #61
    My friend who leases her ponies puts in every contract no cutting of the mane or tail with clippers or scissors by the lessee. This was implemented after one pony had most of his tail cut off by a zealous kid.

    I've always wanted a Fjord. Love them and their cool manes.


    • #62
      Originally posted by sketcher View Post
      It really does not sound at all like a misunderstanding. It sounds like the woman took the horse to her place so that she could have free reign with the scissors. The husbands arrogant response sort of backs that notion up. Obviously they do not care one whit what the OP wants for her own horses.

      I too am of the camp that I would be billing them for the expense of missing the test/inspection and revoking their riding/driving privileges. If they are breed people then they certainly know better.

      I suppose it is a good for the OP that her horse is being competed so perhaps it is worth the aggravation but otherwise, I wouldn't care if the husband was paralyzed from the neck down and had to drive with his teeth and breath through his ears, like someone earlier stated, disability is no free pass to rudeness.
      Yeah, I was in a hurry reading and missed some of the additional information (wish it had all been in the initial subject post).

      Not good. They are to blame. Can't believe that you can't get a horse inspected, though. What would you do if another horse ate part of your horses mane? Do you really have to scratch? That wouldn't happen in other approvals I know of, especially not Hannoverian, etc.
      "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"


      • #63
        Originally posted by LochNessD View Post
        Apparently the subject is so touchy that simply using the wrong phrase on an internet BB is enough to get you crucified. Now you've been schooled on how rude your hypothetical post of what you would say to a hypothetical owner if you wanted to cut a hypothetical mane really IS.
        Hair is SRS BSNS.


        • #64
          Originally posted by Mtn trails View Post
          I knew a woman who had a Morgan show horse and was obsessive about his mane and tail being left long and flowing. Her working student (dunce) banged about 6 inches off his tail I'm amazed she's still living.
          I knew someone with an Arab she showed at PSG who had an uber long tail. It was so stupid. In the rein back the horse constantly stepped on it. Seriously, why would any horse need a tail so long they step on it unless it's wrapped up and protected all the time? I don't get that.
          "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"


          • #65
            Originally posted by gaitedincali View Post
            Hair is SRZ BZNZ.
            there, fixed that for ya!


            • #66
              Ah I had this happen to me once. I had just come home from college for the weekend the girl leasing my horse decided to groom him.. She cut a huge bridle bath, cut his tail up to his hocks (he has a GORGEOUS tail) and covered him in show sheen. THEN she had the nerve to deny she did this when my trainer noticed he was so jacked up. Trainer then thought I did it.. ha yeah right. There are a few different barns/riding schools that all lease on the same property here, so then girl said that a trainer from one of the other barns must have happened into the wrong barn and pulled my horse out to groom thinking it was hers. HAHAHA Of course I have the most stall sour horse in the barn who threatens to bite and pins his ears if you don't have food or are me, I'm sure someone would notice it wasn't their horse. Girl still denies butchering his mane and tail.
              Go Vols!!


              • #67
                OK, like others I wondered why the big BrouHaHa over bathing...then I read.

                You are very much a better person than I am.
                Disability or seniority (age) is no excuse for poor manners.

                At the least you were due some groveling or a more sincere apology.

                If you truly feel these folks now understand what they did wrong & are simply too pigheaded (apologies to all pigs) to make a better apology then I'd let it go.

                But never again would I let them take one of my horses offsite.
                {grumbling to self} asshats
                *friend of bar.ka*RIP all my lovely boys, gone too soon:
                Steppin' Out 1988-2004
                Hey Vern! 1982-2009, Cash's Bay Threat 1994-2009
                Sam(Jaybee Altair) 1994-2015


                • #68
                  This is awful, but . . . . I can beat your story!

                  When I was a kid, we had a wonderful girl borrowing my gelding (on-site) for schooling. She was really sweet and the horse was quite suitable, but she made the terrible mistake of going in with scissors for a bridlepath trim. The horse threw his head up, as the story goes, and she took off three inches of mane SKIN ON! The wound was a gory mess, and the horse couldn't be haltered or bridled for weeks while he healed from the unintentional scalping.

                  This isn't to say I wouldn't be PISSED in your shoes. I'm sorry your mare was badly barbered at such a crucial time.
                  My ears hear a symphony of two mules, trains, and rain. The best is always yet to come, that's what they explained to me. Bob Dylan

                  Fenway Bartholomule ♥ Arrietty G. Teaspoon Brays Of Our Lives


                  • #69
                    The OP is a much more patient person then myself, - I'd be plotting murder about now. People just don't get it.

                    I remember several years back I about killed my sister(who DEFINITELY knows better) of all people, who thought it'd be fun in passing through the barn to zip an arabian bridle path on one of my arab /appaloosa geldings - well that was just ducky.

                    He was due in a week to go to a fairly big hunter show - I don't recall she dared show her face in the barn when I was in there for a full month after that happened.

                    Sadly, my parents would have got upset if I killed my sister .. that's about the only thing that saved her a$$ I tell you.
                    Originally posted by ExJumper
                    Sometimes I'm thrown off, sometimes I'm bucked off, sometimes I simply fall off, and sometimes I go down with the ship. All of these are valid ways to part company with your horse.


                    • #70
                      I'm sure we're not going to get it but I for one want to see a picture! Even if it just of her mane.

                      I live in fear that one day my IBWB mare (who has the Andalusian hair) is going to arrive in the barn bald because some QH person stopped by the farm . I get horrified looks when I hack off 4" late fall for the winter; it ALWAYS grows back by spring, but that keeps it out of the snow.
                      "For some people it's not enough to just be a horse's bum, you have to be sea biscuit's bum" -anon.
                      Nes' Farm Blog ~
                      Need You Now Equine


                      • #71
                        When I was in college, I ran the riding program at a summer camp for Girl Scouts. The camp leased big herds of horses (15-20) from a dealer each summer. Horses were delivered in late May, usually not in the best of shape, having come off a winter in the back 40 or having been picked up from an auction on the way to camp.

                        Anyway, these were all grade QHs/Appys/Arabs/all of the above. Little to no value in the breed department. Most arrived with long, matted, scraggly manes, which we promptly trimmed/cut/pulled. We kept them short-ish over the summer to keep them from getting tangled with burrs.

                        That first summer, when the dealer came back to pick up the horses in August--OMG. The look on his face was priceless. He insisted that having longer manes "made them worth more money" and wanted the camp to compensate him for "de-valuing" the horses. Please.


                        • Original Poster

                          So apparently my posting on #48 was the most insulting and horrible comment known to mankind. I guess I am stunned that he didn't realize I was helping him because of his disability. Otherwise I would have been charging him for the use of my horse, equipment, facilities and my time.

                          Anyway, the drama is gone now.
                          Where Norwegian Fjords Rule


                          • #73
                            Originally posted by IronwoodFarm View Post
                            So apparently my posting on #48 was the most insulting and horrible comment known to mankind. I guess I am stunned that he didn't realize I was helping him because of his disability. Otherwise I would have been charging him for the use of my horse, equipment, facilities and my time.

                            Anyway, the drama is gone now.
                            So if they can't trim your horses willy-nilly they won't borrow them anymore?


                            • #74
                              Uh oh. Does that mean they saw the thread?

                              You know, sometimes, when faced with things we've done we should be embarrassed about, we try to strike out at the other person so we don't have to feel that uncomfortable "in the wrong" feeling.

                              Hang in there, Ironwood. Hope the inspection goes well, and that the mane rudely cut by someone you were doing a giant favor for grows back quickly.
                              "Aye God, Woodrow..."


                              • #75
                                I remember, way-back-when, taking the Paso Fino stallion (show ring allowed 1" bridle path MAX) to the Arabian trainer, and failing to mention the bridle path rules. Yep, 4" of mane lost. Fortunately it was winter and we had the time to grow it out.

                                A friend of mine reminisces about when Arabian trainers &etc asked permission before taking clippers to a horse. (He's a no-bridlepath-ever sort of guy. I'm still in 1" land myself -- but don't even think about banging my horses' tails.)
                                Originally posted by HuntrJumpr
                                No matter what level of showing you're doing, you are required to have pants on.


                                • #76
                                  Originally posted by IronwoodFarm View Post
                                  So apparently my posting on #48 was the most insulting and horrible comment known to mankind. I guess I am stunned that he didn't realize I was helping him because of his disability. Otherwise I would have been charging him for the use of my horse, equipment, facilities and my time.

                                  Anyway, the drama is gone now.
                                  If this means they're PO'ed at you, and don't want to borrow your horse any more, I think you're better off.
                                  "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                                  ...just settin' on the Group W bench.


                                  • #77
                                    Originally posted by IronwoodFarm View Post
                                    So apparently my posting on #48 was the most insulting and horrible comment known to mankind. I guess I am stunned that he didn't realize I was helping him because of his disability. Otherwise I would have been charging him for the use of my horse, equipment, facilities and my time.

                                    Anyway, the drama is gone now.
                                    Wow. Just wow.

                                    In theory, I know that no good deed goes unpunished, but every time I see an example of it in action, I'm still surprised.

                                    Some disabled people are worth helping. You were unfortunate enough to encounter one who not only isn't, but is actively unpleasant and has a gargantuan sense of entitlement. I'm delighted he's no longer in the picture.
                                    In loving memory of Laura Jahnke.
                                    A life lived by example, done too soon.


                                    • #78
                                      I once had my TB out on a 6 month lease because I was having back surgery.

                                      They pulled his tail.

                                      It took over 2 years to grow back to how it was.

                                      I was LIVID.
                                      2016 RRP Makeover Competitor


                                      • #79
                                        Maybe what you need to do is find their 6 yr old daughter and give her a mohawk? because hey, no problem!! It'll grow out!
                                        a 501(c)3 organization helping 501(c)3 equine rescues


                                        • #80
                                          I think I would have thrown an unladylike fit. I am still p.o.ed at my youngest dd (who definitely knows how a gaited forelock should be) for screwing it up on my old horse. Oh, so not happy!!!

                                          She may not have changed the stars from their courses, but she loved a good man, and she rode good unknown