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  • IronwoodFarm
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    So apparently my posting on #48 was the most insulting and horrible comment known to mankind. I guess I am stunned that he didn't realize I was helping him because of his disability. Otherwise I would have been charging him for the use of my horse, equipment, facilities and my time.

    Anyway, the drama is gone now.

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  • LuvMyTB
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    When I was in college, I ran the riding program at a summer camp for Girl Scouts. The camp leased big herds of horses (15-20) from a dealer each summer. Horses were delivered in late May, usually not in the best of shape, having come off a winter in the back 40 or having been picked up from an auction on the way to camp.

    Anyway, these were all grade QHs/Appys/Arabs/all of the above. Little to no value in the breed department. Most arrived with long, matted, scraggly manes, which we promptly trimmed/cut/pulled. We kept them short-ish over the summer to keep them from getting tangled with burrs.

    That first summer, when the dealer came back to pick up the horses in August--OMG. The look on his face was priceless. He insisted that having longer manes "made them worth more money" and wanted the camp to compensate him for "de-valuing" the horses. Please.

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  • Nes
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    I'm sure we're not going to get it but I for one want to see a picture! Even if it just of her mane.

    I live in fear that one day my IBWB mare (who has the Andalusian hair) is going to arrive in the barn bald because some QH person stopped by the farm . I get horrified looks when I hack off 4" late fall for the winter; it ALWAYS grows back by spring, but that keeps it out of the snow.

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  • rainechyldes
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    The OP is a much more patient person then myself, - I'd be plotting murder about now. People just don't get it.

    I remember several years back I about killed my sister(who DEFINITELY knows better) of all people, who thought it'd be fun in passing through the barn to zip an arabian bridle path on one of my arab /appaloosa geldings - well that was just ducky.

    He was due in a week to go to a fairly big hunter show - I don't recall she dared show her face in the barn when I was in there for a full month after that happened.

    Sadly, my parents would have got upset if I killed my sister .. that's about the only thing that saved her a$$ I tell you.

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  • didgery
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    This is awful, but . . . . I can beat your story!

    When I was a kid, we had a wonderful girl borrowing my gelding (on-site) for schooling. She was really sweet and the horse was quite suitable, but she made the terrible mistake of going in with scissors for a bridlepath trim. The horse threw his head up, as the story goes, and she took off three inches of mane SKIN ON! The wound was a gory mess, and the horse couldn't be haltered or bridled for weeks while he healed from the unintentional scalping.

    This isn't to say I wouldn't be PISSED in your shoes. I'm sorry your mare was badly barbered at such a crucial time.

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  • 2DogsFarm
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    OK, like others I wondered why the big BrouHaHa over bathing...then I read.


    Ironwood:
    You are very much a better person than I am.
    Disability or seniority (age) is no excuse for poor manners.

    At the least you were due some groveling or a more sincere apology.

    If you truly feel these folks now understand what they did wrong & are simply too pigheaded (apologies to all pigs) to make a better apology then I'd let it go.

    But never again would I let them take one of my horses offsite.
    Period.
    {grumbling to self} asshats

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  • jrzeqrider
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    Ah I had this happen to me once. I had just come home from college for the weekend the girl leasing my horse decided to groom him.. She cut a huge bridle bath, cut his tail up to his hocks (he has a GORGEOUS tail) and covered him in show sheen. THEN she had the nerve to deny she did this when my trainer noticed he was so jacked up. Trainer then thought I did it.. ha yeah right. There are a few different barns/riding schools that all lease on the same property here, so then girl said that a trainer from one of the other barns must have happened into the wrong barn and pulled my horse out to groom thinking it was hers. HAHAHA Of course I have the most stall sour horse in the barn who threatens to bite and pins his ears if you don't have food or are me, I'm sure someone would notice it wasn't their horse. Girl still denies butchering his mane and tail.

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  • Velvet
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    Originally posted by Mtn trails View Post
    I knew a woman who had a Morgan show horse and was obsessive about his mane and tail being left long and flowing. Her working student (dunce) banged about 6 inches off his tail I'm amazed she's still living.
    I knew someone with an Arab she showed at PSG who had an uber long tail. It was so stupid. In the rein back the horse constantly stepped on it. Seriously, why would any horse need a tail so long they step on it unless it's wrapped up and protected all the time? I don't get that.

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  • Alagirl
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    Originally posted by gaitedincali View Post
    Hair is SRZ BZNZ.
    there, fixed that for ya!

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  • gaitedincali
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    Originally posted by LochNessD View Post
    Apparently the subject is so touchy that simply using the wrong phrase on an internet BB is enough to get you crucified. Now you've been schooled on how rude your hypothetical post of what you would say to a hypothetical owner if you wanted to cut a hypothetical mane really IS.
    Hair is SRS BSNS.

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  • Velvet
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    Originally posted by sketcher View Post
    It really does not sound at all like a misunderstanding. It sounds like the woman took the horse to her place so that she could have free reign with the scissors. The husbands arrogant response sort of backs that notion up. Obviously they do not care one whit what the OP wants for her own horses.

    I too am of the camp that I would be billing them for the expense of missing the test/inspection and revoking their riding/driving privileges. If they are breed people then they certainly know better.

    I suppose it is a good for the OP that her horse is being competed so perhaps it is worth the aggravation but otherwise, I wouldn't care if the husband was paralyzed from the neck down and had to drive with his teeth and breath through his ears, like someone earlier stated, disability is no free pass to rudeness.
    Yeah, I was in a hurry reading and missed some of the additional information (wish it had all been in the initial subject post).

    Not good. They are to blame. Can't believe that you can't get a horse inspected, though. What would you do if another horse ate part of your horses mane? Do you really have to scratch? That wouldn't happen in other approvals I know of, especially not Hannoverian, etc.

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  • TrakHack
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    My friend who leases her ponies puts in every contract no cutting of the mane or tail with clippers or scissors by the lessee. This was implemented after one pony had most of his tail cut off by a zealous kid.

    I've always wanted a Fjord. Love them and their cool manes.

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  • Mtn trails
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    I knew a woman who had a Morgan show horse and was obsessive about his mane and tail being left long and flowing. Her working student (dunce) banged about 6 inches off his tail I'm amazed she's still living.

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  • LochNessD
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    Originally posted by gaitedincali View Post
    Umm yeah, I'd let her know what I was going to do before I'd do it, so she could say yay or nay.

    In other words - OMG I'd ask if it was OK first!1!!!! How terrible of me.

    Good grief.
    Apparently the subject is so touchy that simply using the wrong phrase on an internet BB is enough to get you crucified. Now you've been schooled on how rude your hypothetical post of what you would say to a hypothetical owner if you wanted to cut a hypothetical mane really IS.

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  • Trakehner
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    Trimming a Fjord's mane is a high-stress endeavor on a good day. You need a nice arch to it, making sure the inner dark color is not too exposed or not exposed enough...worried the bejesus out of me when I was doing her. Luckily, they're short, so you can see what you're doing.

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  • sketcher
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    Originally posted by Velvet View Post
    It was wrong, but it was a misunderstanding. I don't think the person taking the horse off the property was because they thought you would object. I think it was an honest mistake.
    It really does not sound at all like a misunderstanding. It sounds like the woman took the horse to her place so that she could have free reign with the scissors. The husbands arrogant response sort of backs that notion up. Obviously they do not care one whit what the OP wants for her own horses.

    I too am of the camp that I would be billing them for the expense of missing the test/inspection and revoking their riding/driving privileges. If they are breed people then they certainly know better.

    I suppose it is a good for the OP that her horse is being competed so perhaps it is worth the aggravation but otherwise, I wouldn't care if the husband was paralyzed from the neck down and had to drive with his teeth and breath through his ears, like someone earlier stated, disability is no free pass to rudeness.

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  • asb_own_me
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    Originally posted by gaitedincali View Post
    Umm yeah, I'd let her know what I was going to do before I'd do it, so she could say yay or nay.

    In other words - OMG I'd ask if it was OK first!1!!!! How terrible of me.

    Good grief.
    Yes, rude of you, in how you chose to phrase it initially, and you've chosen to continue to phrase it in the same way. You would "let them know". That is NOT the same as asking permission.

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  • Ghazzu
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    Originally posted by IronwoodFarm View Post
    Great mane! All you non-Fjord people -- think about how bad this mare would look with the first 4 inches removed.

    In response to Giddy-up, the reason I have not completely banned these people is because the husband is handicapped. Driving is the one thing he can do where he is like everyone else. He may be a clueless about grooming, but cutting him off would be harsh. Limited showing while closely supervised seems the best option for now.
    You're a bigger person than I, because I don't consider a disability to be a free pass for neglecting basic manners.

    That was a pitiful excuse for an apology.

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  • KBC
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    40 years on and my face is still flaming as I read this..

    As a youngster I thought I would be a real nice person and pull (my first ever attempt) my favorite ponies mane. She was a school pony and much loved by everyone.

    Can you imagine how the owner felt when she came out and found her poor Haflinger with a very badly pulled, very short mane.

    I still cringe at the very memory of what I did, and now being a Haflinger owner myself I can only to well understand just how mad she was.

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  • Giddy-up
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    Originally posted by IronwoodFarm View Post
    In response to Giddy-up, the reason I have not completely banned these people is because the husband is handicapped. Driving is the one thing he can do where he is like everyone else. He may be a clueless about grooming, but cutting him off would be harsh. Limited showing while closely supervised seems the best option for now.
    Okaaaay...you got me a little there.

    But I'd probably still be having a chat about "my horse, don't change a thing". And no unsupervised useage!

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