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  • #41
    I am not sure that the owner was present - when I spoke with her this morning she was on her way to work and was not sure of all the details. In any case, it is indeed an awful tragedy for everyone involved.

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    • #42
      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by QueenMother:
      Thanks, Invested. Which horse was it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

      It was a woman's horse who also posts here on the boards..she had just started riding w/ Winn.

      I too have spoken to Hucklebug, and have been asked to keep on eye out on speculation and rumors at this point. This is a devistating situation and a trainers worst nightmare.

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      • #43
        Thank you for the clarification and the discretion, jodes. That's enough to tell me it wasn't the horse I sold. While it's a relief for me personally, my heart hurts for everyone involved.

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        • #44
          Prayers to all involved!!!

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          • #45
            I can't even imagine! My heart goes out to all involved. What a tragedy.

            A big dose of CoTH comfort for all involved.

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            • #46
              Oh my. That is so awful. My deepest condolences for those involved.

              The show grounds are so close to the highway, I can see how this could happen. A freak accident for sure, though.

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              • #47
                This is a tragic example of why we all should carry personal liablity insurance on our horses. I have just purchased a policy on mine because I have always had a fear of this very thing happening. It is very inexpensive.

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                • #48
                  How do you get personal liabilitly insurance on a horse? What a tragedy. I am thinking of all involved....please keep us posted on any updates on the story and also where to send condolences to the owner of the horse.
                  Dance like no one is watching. Love like you have never been hurt.

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                  • #49
                    What an awful, awful situation. Both horse and driver were innocent parties here, in the wrong place at the wrong time. My thoughts go out to all who were involved.

                    How terribly sad
                    Erin and
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                    • #50
                      Horses are not supposed to be loose on the roads because they can cause accidents. I think that Show Place Arena, the horse owner, or the trainer, or perhaps all three are potentially legally responsible. The driver of the car would not be legally responsible for the death of the horse or the accident. This again would be, I believe, whoever was responsible for the horse. The driver was driving on the road. Its not like he/she drove off the road and plowed through the show grounds.

                      Its an unfortunate event, thats for sure. But it in no way was the car driver's fault. Don't be surprised if there are civil cases against those responsibe for the horse and possibly even criminal prosecution since the accident resulted in the death of a person.

                      You may be able to get additional personal liability insurance on your homeowner's policy. This is what will cover you if someone comes over to your house and has an accicent, if your dog bites someone or digs up the neighbor's prize roses, if your horse kicks someone. I got this increased on my homeowner's policy when I got a horse. It was actually required at a place where I boaded once and the idea had never occurred to me before that. Its not very expensive to get more coverage this way since your homeowner's insurance policy will have a personal liability component. I think you would need to ask an insurace agent about coverage if you are not a homeowner.

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                      • #51
                        Very sorry for all involved.

                        Sadly, this same type of incident happened a few years back up near Naperville, IL. It was either the Wayne-DuPage event or Lamplight (Chicagoans will remember) where a horse got loose and ran into the road and was hit and killed by a larger truck. Luckily, the driver was not killed in that incident.

                        Maybe some Chicagoans can lend more light on my dim memory of that one.

                        Anyway, terrible, terrible for horses and people involved. So sorry to hear this.

                        Magnum
                        "If you don't know where you're going, you'll end up somewhere else."

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                        • #52
                          That's terrible for all concerned.

                          Just an aside...some states have different statutes regarding this kind of thing. For example, open range ranching states hold that the driver HAS an expectation of large animals in the road. I know, ex hubby hit a steer in Texas (middle of the night, not all that rural). Had to pay for the steer.

                          Might be good to review your insurance and the laws of your state, or those you show in. S*it happens no matter how careful you are.
                          When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

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                          • #53
                            magnum, that might have happened more than once there... I know that a horse who lost its rider on the cross-country course at the Wayne Horse Trials ran back up the path to the road and was hit by a car and killed.

                            Since then, for the event at least, they usually have a police crossing guard. But any loose horse at a show there could easily get out onto Army Trail Road.

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                            • #54
                              ABC 7 /Associated Press

                              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Woman Killed When Car Hits Horse On Route 4
                              Thursday September 15, 2005 10:27am

                              Upper Marlboro, Md (AP) - State police have now identified the woman who died after striking a horse with her car this morning in Prince George's County. She was Frances Ann Imwalle of Lothian.

                              The accident happened just before 5 a.m. at Route Four and Water Street in Upper Marlboro. Police say the horse wandered away from the nearby Equestrian Center and into the path of the woman's car.

                              The horse also died at the scene.

                              According to a report, the horse was in a barn being groomed when it took off out an open door. It's trainer tried to run after the animal but was unable to catch it.

                              Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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                              • #55
                                Good advice.... an umbrella liability policy for anyone who owns a horse. I have had one for many many years now. They are not expensive, and mine is part of my homeowner's policy. It sure helped when my horse sat on a car while I was talking to a passer by while on a trail ride. Side mirror enema for the horse, big dent on the car door, insurance policy paid for the damages after a few giggles and laughs.
                                Not to take away from the seriousness of this post......I can't stop thinking about it.
                                \"A rider is only as good as the horse that is underneath them\"

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                                • #56
                                  What a terrible tragedy for all involved and even for anyone on the show grounds as they heavy heartedly show thier horses or even just visit today knowing deep down that it could have been their horse.

                                  Show grounds should have those high chain link fences or something around them especially when so close to the highway where vehicles are traveling at higher rates of speed but it costs money to put up, to maintain, etc. However, they might consider it now...it always takes a tragedy to make things safer.

                                  When I was in high school a girl in my school was riding through a local park (very very strict on speed limit of 15-25 mph depending what part of the park you are in). She was headed back to her barn when her horse bolted and bucked across an open field. She fell off, and her her horse ran across the field and crossed the road. A friend of mine was in the car with her mother and as they crested the hill they met the horse on the road. The outcome was tragic on a lot of levels. The horse did not make it, the girl was devasted, and my friend more or less hung up her helmet and riding boots...she did ride but not like she used to and it eventually led to the sale of her horse.

                                  At fault? Well, the mom was going over the speed limit but not by much and the horse was loose but in a public park where folks ride horses all the time. I do believe without any hesitation the mom offered to pay the full value of the horse (not that it changes things) and did what she could to compensate the owner. Insurance might have come into play somewhere but the driver stepped right up (most likely because they were horse people). It was truly an accident and if it had not been at the crest of a hill most likely the car woulda been going slower as it is straight down the other side and the horse woulda been seen coming across the field - things just happen sometimes.

                                  There were also a couple horses killed down the street from where I used to keep my horses. A guy in an SUV was slowing down as he approached a school bus with it's red lights on. The lights went off and the guy sped back up. Coming from behind the bus while the guys eyes were still adjusting to the dim daylight and the colored bus lights were two dark bays. They crossed, the guy blinked, and the rest is another tragic ending.

                                  The guy walked away fine-his car not so much. Both horses were killed. One was killed by the car the other had to euthanized right there. Who was at fault? No one. They decided it was just an accident. The fencing the horses lived in was found to be fully functional but somehow the horses got out-jumped?..the gates were all still locked except the one at the top of the driveway which they determined was not part of the horse enclosure so it didn't matter. I believe the horse owner was insured (her own private horse farm) and she took care of the SUV but it was not required.

                                  As far as personal liability insurance - I believe most equine insurances offer that now. I have looked into it for my horses but have yet to tack it on...I really should though-it's a very smart policy.
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                                  • #57
                                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SmileGee:
                                    How do you get personal liabilitly insurance on a horse? What a tragedy. I am thinking of all involved....please keep us posted on any updates on the story and also where to send condolences to the owner of the horse. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                    Such a horrible tragedy for all involved. My thoughts are with everyone.

                                    For personal liability insur. your homeowner's may be a pssible solution or check out http://www.hallmarkhorse.com They have a policy available.
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                                    • #58
                                      This is simply horrible for all parties involved. My heart goes out to them.

                                      We have a beautiful equestrian center in our area that is now hemmed in on all sides by nasty development (500 or so houses on a tract, maybe 4 inches apart). This could so easily happen here.

                                      My sympathy to all.
                                      www.specialhorses.org
                                      a 501(c)3 organization helping 501(c)3 equine rescues

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                                      • #59
                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 2 tbs:
                                        Show grounds should have those high chain link fences or something around them especially when so close to the highway where vehicles are traveling at higher rates of speed but it costs money to put up, to maintain, etc. However, they might consider it now...it always takes a tragedy to make things safer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        I agree - this is just comon sense to me. Screw the costs!
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                                        • #60
                                          There are quite a few fences at the Equestrien Center...but there are also gates so cars, trailers and people can get in. It's not a prison.

                                          It's whoever had control of the horse that is at fault...if they didn't cross tie it or whatever happened that it got away, there is where the blame lies.

                                          Most importantly, a woman died, perhaps due to someone not doing something they probably should have and we'll just have to wait and see what happened.

                                          A woman died, which is a lot more important and serious than a horse dying.
                                          "Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc"

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