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  • #21
    bluewatersail, why would the driver be prosecuted??? i'm confused. if it was an accident, the horse ran out in front of the car (which is more likely then the horse standing out in the middle of the road, while cars go past), then why would the driver necessarily be at fault? and at this point, before jumping to conclusions, as it only happened a few hours ago, let's instead offer everyone involved our jingles, rather then condemn the driver, since we have no idea what really happened.
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    • #22
      The driver is dead, bluewatersail. Guess you want to go after the grieving family now.

      Good grief, can't you possibly see that a horse wandering on the road at 5am might not be SEEN by a driver, or could have run right into the car?

      Ugh.

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      • #23
        Any more info on the horse? I sold a nice bay gelding last fall to a student of Winn's. . .

        My thoughts and prayers to the occupants of the car, the horse people involved, and the crew at the Rainbow Bridge.

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        • #24
          So very sorry to hear about this accident, my stomach is in knots. I pray for all involved. Horrible tragic loss of horse and driver..... Unfortunately I have heard of a similar accident many years ago, the horse owner and the farm or in this case the show grounds will be held responsible for negligence in failing to keep the horse properly contained on the property. The owner of the horse, even though she was not even at the farm at the time was sued and the farm owner was sued as well. The owner of the farm lost her farm over the law suit and the owner of the horse paid a tremendous settlement too. It was tragic. The driver was not found at fault, he did not lose his life, but lost eyesight from injuries. I have never been to these show grounds before, but many places located near highways like this should put up perimeter fences to keep this situation from happening. bluewatersail, I find it very hard to believe that the driver would be at fault in this...
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          • #25
            Actually, I think it would be a good idea if we all refrained from speculation about who was "negligent" or "at fault" -- no one here knows what the facts of this situation are, and we're not doing anyone any favors by pointing fingers at one party or the other.

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            • #26
              Wow, called Roomfor2ette (worked for Winn this summer and helped out with Hucklebugs horses). I am very worried and can't imagine anyone going through this. Waiting for more info...
              Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.
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                #27
                Bluewatersail: THE driver is dead. Or so the news said. I dont think this was anything that happened with maliciouse intent, it was, well, an accident. I just feel bad, I know this upsets people, but really, no one comes out the winner here.

                WHo is WINN ALDEN? who was her horse?
                "Lose your temper, lose your horse" -someone wise enough to know better than to pick a fight with a 1200 lb animal that could launch you to the moon.

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                • #28
                  Jingles for everyone involved.

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                  • #29
                    Winn Alden is a prominent trainer in our area. I'm shaking all over - sick to my stomach. I wish there was something I could do.

                    Does anyone know if the horse got loose during the night, or was it a "got loose during lunging" or whatever?

                    Please keep us updated and if there is anything we can do...
                    \"Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion. It seizes a person whole and, once it has done so, he will have to accept that his life will be radically changed.\" -- Ralph Waldo E

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                    • #30
                      This horse was not owned by Winn, but belonged to a student of Winn's. The student is aware of what has happened. She bred this horse and is extremely upset. It is a very sad and shocking tragedy.

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                      • #31
                        oh no!!

                        Jingling for everyone involved
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                        • #32
                          Daughter trying to get hold of Winn or Hucklebug to see how they are holding up. Will update when I find out anything. Duffy, I too am sick, I have goosebumps sitting here thinking about and not being able to do anything.
                          Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.
                          -Eleanor Roosevelt-

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                          • #33
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                            • #34
                              I believe under MD state law, a driver has a "reasonable expectation" for animals to not be in the road. We dealt with this a lot when we had dogs and cats at our emergency clinic that were hit by cars.

                              What a horrible tragedy. I'm so sorry for the horse owner and the driver's family.
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                              • #35
                                I really hope the poor girl doesnt end up with a law suit on her hands. Although we are unaware of how the horse got loose, it would be unfair to blame her especially if she was not on the show grounds. I hope it does not come to that. :-( Jingles
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                                • #36
                                  From what I heard on the news (admittedly not a perfect source of factual information) - the horse got loose somehow and it was just a horrible, unfortunate accident.

                                  Nothing more, nothing less.

                                  Take this opportunity to give all your loved ones an extra hug and smile.
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                                  Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
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                                  • #37
                                    Prayers and jingles for all involved and their families. What a horrible, horrible, tragic accident.

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                                    • #38
                                      I just talked to a friend of mine who works for Winn. Apparently it was an accident, and they were trying to catch the horse when it just walked up the hill onto an exit ramp and got hit. Everyone is devastated and the driver did die. It was just a horrible horrible accident.

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                                      • #39
                                        Oh, how very horrible that the owner saw it and of course that the driver died.

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                                        • #40
                                          I cannot even begin to comprehend the feelings of those involved.....my prayers to all involved........
                                          \"A rider is only as good as the horse that is underneath them\"

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