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  • My firm might take this pro bono, we do a lot of pro bono work.

    I just got off the phone w/ our Pro Bono coordinator, and she thinks our firm (we're 10th in the nation for prestige and one of the top pro bono firms) will take it!

    But I need WAY more info. Email me! Esp if you know more details about the victim or who to contact in her family.

    tpierce AT cov DOT com.
    model citizen, zero discipline

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    • I will contribute as well. What a GREAT idea, Cindeye. What a great way to honor Guiness and to say to the Imwalle children and the world that horsepeople DO care!

      Re: the media. I showed this thread to my husband, a former journalist now in PR. He said, "yep. Never write anything on the Internet that you aren't willing to see in print or used against you."
      "Socrates was a very wise man who went around giving good advice. They poisoned him." Anonymous...

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      • I've emailed Jester with the info I have gleaned online. If anyone has any contact info for the family of Frances Ann Imwalle, of Lothian, Md, please email Jester or me (cindeye AT cindeye DOT com).

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        • If someone can come up with a legitimate place for funds to go to Ms. Imwalle's children I would be more than willing to contribute something.

          What a terrible situation for her family and my heart goes out to them. My cousin/best friend grew up without her father because he was involved in a drunk driving accident one month to the day before she was born. As we are the same age, I saw firsthand what growing up without a parent due to a tragic accident is like.

          Best wishes to the Imwalle family.

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          • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bluewatersail:
            This makes me sick too. I hope the driver is prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Didn't this just happen in NJ last week also? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

            Not the drivers fault,why would she, rest her soul, be proscuted? If its anyones fault, it would unfortunatly, be the fault of the one who left the stall door open.
            Tara


            A horse already knows how to be a horse;
            The rider has to learn how to become a rider.
            A horse without a rider is still a horse;
            A rider without a horse is no longer a rider.

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            • BlackWatchLady --

              No stall door was left open, BWL. Please read ENTIRE thread before posting. Thank you.
              I tolerate all kinds of animal idiosyncrasies.
              I've found that I don't tolerate people idiosyncrasies as well. - Casey09

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              • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Seahorsefarmtobe:
                I'm exactly the same! Coreene once said I had a cold barbed-wire heart for it...but I digress </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                Gee, and since then I also donated $$ to the horse rescue you list on every one of your posts, so thanks for bringing this up again.

                Bassy, I am so sorry for everyone whose lives were touched by this tragedy. When I had to put Willem to sleep, his Irish Draught friend Rufus and Rufus' mom left a giant bottle of Guinness in the stall as a remembrance, and since then we salute Willem with Guinness bran mashes on cold days. I am sure that Guinness' friends would love them as well. After all, many, many Irish trainers can't be wrong.

                And we did plant rosemary, right where we put Willem to sleep. It is one of the few plants that the squirrels and bunnies don't snack on.

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                • Cindeye, what a wonderful idea! Another COTH member who'll donate as soon as we have something set up.

                  As for contacting the family, maybe Jester1113 could have the pro bono coordinator contact the Maryland State Police, with said lawyer being the only contact (at least right now) for the fund?
                  "IT'S NOT THE MOUNTAIN WE CONQUER, BUT OURSELVES." SIR EDMUND HILLARYMember of the "Someone Special To Me Serves In The Military" Clique

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                  • You guys are so great! I wonder, though, if the idea of setting up a fund for the driver's children's benefit is a bit premature? Perhaps it would be better to let a little time go by before anyone from COTH contacts the family, in order to let their initial shock and grief abate somewhat, if that's possible. Whenever this project gets off the ground, however, it is a wonderful thought.

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                    • Cindeye, you know I love you and your heart is in the right place, but if this had happened to my mother, I would be Not Amused about a memorial fund named after the horse who got loose and (albeit unintentionally) caused the death of my mother. I would guess that there is some type of place where you could make donations to the family discreetly, and that's the way I would go. Besides, unless it's going to be a big whacking chunk of change, it would just rub salt into the wounds. JMHO.

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                      • I'm going to take what Coreene said one further, with all due respect, and I mean it in the nicest way - this is really none of our business. It's a sweet thought, but...If bassy needs support, we're here to give it to her, but beyond that, I think it's wise - and proper - to butt out. JMHO.
                        If you must choose between two evils, choose the one that you've never tried before.

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                        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coreene:
                          Cindeye, you know I love you and your heart is in the right place, but if this had happened to my mother, I would be Not Amused about a memorial fund named after the horse who got loose and (albeit unintentionally) caused the death of my mother. I would guess that there is some type of place where you could make donations to the family discreetly, and that's the way I would go. Besides, unless it's going to be a big whacking chunk of change, it would just rub salt into the wounds. JMHO. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>In my usual naive way, I hadn't thought of that. After I viewed the news video of people saying how hard the driver worked to give her kids anything they needed, I was just trying to think of a way to help the kids. Food for thought on how to approach this tactfully.

                          Ride'emVa: I respect your viewpoint, but I was raised to think that helping others in need is always everyone's business. Knowing someone is hurting or in need and turning a blind eye to their plight is just something I'm not programmed to do.

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                          • My guess would be that the friends of the poor woman who was killed would be very likely to be setting up some sort of fund even now.

                            Concerned horsefolk could donate to that. No need to give it a separate name/entity.
                            "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                            ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                            • Please know we are thinking of you, and all involved. Our hearts go out to you, may you read all of the posts here, and find a bit of comfort knowing how many people care. Sending lots of hugs your way.
                              Collector of fine ponies.

                              In loving memory of Mr.Zipp 3-25-72 / 11-4-08

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                              • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">IMWALLE MEMORIAL </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                Here's a link to a Washington Post article about this trajic accident. There is a photo of Frances Ann Imwalle. It helps to put a face to a name. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...AR2005091502359.html


                                Here is some other data from google: http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0905/260407.html
                                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> My husband worked with Fran Imwalle for almost 20 years. She was a kind, sweet, faithful employee of Stromberg Metal Works, Inc. in Beltsville, MD. Fran liked to start her day early, and was on her way to work when the unfortunate accident happened. She was the mother of two teenagers and did not have an alcohol problem. Fran Imwalle was the victim of an unfortunate accident,

                                [deleted by Cartier]

                                ... Two young people are suddenly without the one person that stood behind them, had only their interests in mind, was a major contributor to their support and loved them dearly. I find it distrubing that anyone could consider putting the death of a horse on equal basis with a person. I have had two dogs that were very dear to me, but I would never trade any family member or friend for them to be alive again. While Fran Imwalle's children grieve over the loss of their dear mother, I hope all of you horse lovers WAKE UP to the difference between the loss of a human and the loss of an animal. Fran had many friends at Stromberg Metal Works, Inc. and they, too, are grieving over the loss of her. It is ironic that Fran, herself, was orphaned when both of her parents were killed in an auto accident when she was a teenager. [deleted by Cartier]
                                </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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                                • &lt;&lt;My guess would be that the friends of the poor woman who was killed would be very likely to be setting up some sort of fund even now.

                                  Concerned horsefolk could donate to that. No need to give it a separate name/entity.&gt;&gt;

                                  Have to agree w/Ghazzu and Coreeene on this one.

                                  Must also remark that I have to agree w/the quote that there are a number of horse people whose words in reaction to this incident have been nothing short of appalling. My advice to those: Wake up, people! There is more to life on this planet than your little corner of it.

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                                  • About the material I quoted (at the bottom of the previous page [11]), … just want to clarify… I think people have a right to grieve in any way that is meaningful for them. I am not judging ANYONE on this thread for how they expressed their sadness over this tragedy. If some mentioned the horse, it may simply be because they knew a bit more about him. I don’t think it reflected callousness or insensitivity towards Frances. And I do not agree with all of the quoted comments in my previous post. Rather, I wanted to post a bit of personal data about Frances Ann Imwalle to help people connect to who she was: a loving mother of two; a working mom, beloved friend and co-worker…
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                                    • Bassy, as a gardener I just wanted to suggest Buddleia, or Butterfly Bush. My trainer lost her wonderful old stallion this year, and I plan on planting a Buddleia on his grave so he'll have both beautiful flowers and dancing butterflies all summer.

                                      Again, my deepest condolences for this tragic situation.

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                                      • &lt;&lt;I am not judging ANYONE on this thread for how they expressed their sadness over this tragedy.&gt;&gt;

                                        Well, I think we can agree that bluewatersail's reaction was rather thoughtless...

                                        And, yes, the press gets it wrong about 90% of the time...

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                                        • I have a question...

                                          Our AHSA insurance, does it cover us for liabilty for stuff like this? Is that enough insurance or do we need to take out other insurance. I am sure we all need to protect ourselves , horses etc. What SHOULD we all have as insurance coverage? Who should we have it with?
                                          Leslie Dobson
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