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  • #21
    Hmmmm...Naked Venting...a new COTH sport?!?!?!?!

    Horses evolved on the short grass steppes where where was lots of rain at some times of the year and little or no shelter. They can handle some pretty rough weather as long as they are in otherwise good health and we've not compromised them by cutting off their coats, making them stand in mud and water, etc.

    Within broad limits each owner sets the standard of care for their horse. If that offends another then I usually tell them that they'll have to get over being offended. Or they can write me a check and I'll spend it complying with their standard. Either one works for me.

    Maybe at a co-op barn a bit more tact is required, but in S.E. VA I can't imagine too many weather conditions that will require bringing a horse in. If we were talking about N.E. MN then I might have a different opinion.

    G.
    Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

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    • #22
      Originally posted by trubandloki View Post
      I do not think your horse keeping is wrong, I do not think their horse keeping is wrong.

      They are just different.
      Agreed. Most of my horses are out 24/7/365 and rarely see a brush. My show horse IS pampered, and I have a few others that would like to be "hothouse flowers".

      I have a 3 year old that was shown as a weanling, so he spent a lot of time in a stall between weaning and his first winter. Anytime the weather is icky he stands in his shed looking at me as if to say "I'm a Saddlebred, for God's sake - I'm not supposed to be rained on!" Too bad, so sad. He'll be fine.

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      • #23
        Hey, if OP wants to bring HER horse in at a self care/co op barn???

        If there is not a requirement to bring anybody else's horse in but her own? WHO CARES?? Not to mention failing to bring in all horses from a field 8 months into a pregnancy is not "stupid".

        See, I hate these type places. I always laid low and kept my mouth shut but 90% of the rest of the boarders were only too eager to pipe up and tell me what to do/not do/suggest this or that. Based on their 2 years of experience and ownership of a horse wearing 3 shoes with a bad cough stabled in a dirty stall next door to my immaculately kept animal.

        My silence was not snobbery though that is the way it was taken when I did not follow their advice about barefoot, NH or proper weight and offered no explanation. And, yeah, I did show and was the only one. I even had one 20ish gal repeatedly insist bathing was bad (mine was a Paint) and they should never have water placed on their coats-while hers stood out in the rain. I never argued, just smiled and nodded my head.

        I have been happier selecting barns that were run according to what I feel is proper care even if they do cost more. Instead of trying to get along and fit in with a mixed bag of theories, opinions and flat out misinformed judgements eagerly shared whether welcome or not.

        Think OP is going to be happier keeping at home. And congratulations on your upcoming new family member.
        When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

        The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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        • #24
          Well, to me this certainly seems the time for saying, with a big smile:

          "Well, bless your heart. Of COURSE I spoil my horse. He/she is spoiled rotten in the care department. What's the point of having one otherwise. And your point is??"

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          • #25
            Congratulations on your soon-to-be baby!!! If you take such great care of your mare you're probably going to be an awesome mom!

            That said, before I bought this place and got way too many horses (6) my OTTB was at a "show" barn. He was fat and shiny and gorgeous. He also averaged at least one emergency vet call a month. One month it was THREE emergency vet calls. I swear I've never seen such an accident prone horse bent on self-destruction.

            After one catastrophic emergency (which would require twice daily care) I moved him to a self-care facility for recovery, then I moved him home. My former barn owner took one look at my place (fields and run-ins) and said "he will kill himself in a minute."

            Two years later. He's still fat, not quite as shiny, and hasn't had one injury. He's learned that where he puts his feet matters, he's learned that there is a "pecking order" and that he's not the top of it. He's a way better horse for not being so pampered.

            Go right ahead and pamper your horse. There's nothing wrong with that. But don't be so quick to judge those who don't. They may have a point, too.
            Rhythm the perfect OTTB;Spock the will-be perfect OTTB;Mia the Arab/appendix COTH giveaway

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            • #26
              trubandloki - I am sorry I meant 3 times a YEAR. One horses hooves are starting to curl.

              As to the lameness - the horse has chronic trush and sratches from standing in the mud all the time. So she treats it, it goes away, and comes back and goes away, the BO said maybe a stall at night would help, her would be dry for part of the day but she doesn't want to do that.

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              • #27
                Haha, I was confused on the 3x a month thing too.

                Honestly, it is not bad care for horses to be outside 24/7 in the rain/mud/snow/cold/whatever. Go out west for a bit & see how things are done there. When I worked out west it rained pretty much solidly for about a month. The mud was so deep it went over our wellies, and we routinely got a boot stuck and ended up hopping around trying to find the boot. Yeah, smooth! The horses lived out because there was no other option. We obviously were more circumspect when it came to where/how fast we rode, but we still rode. In full waterproofs (except on the babies because it scared them - was good spook training though!).

                Different strokes for different folks, as someone said. For now, I would just not talk to them as much as possible. You are understandably over emotional, and IMO now would be a BAD time to move your horse + a border onto your own property. I would think you will need the support of the co-op when your child is born, so I would really try to hold out until the child is born/ a bit older and your financial situation is stable. Farms are expensive, even if it is just a field/small shelter.
                "Choose to chance the rapids, and dare to dance the tides" - Garth Brooks
                "With your permission, dear, I'll take my fences one at a time" - Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey

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