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  • #81
    Reading through Albion's comments collectively are so disturbing. Starting with her comments of sleeping with an older trainer and "getting what she wanted". Then she proceeds to explain that she apparantely was a Woman at 15 - believe me when you're older and look back you'll blush at that comment. And the worst was that she and her friends apparantely felt being virgins was some major handicap and they needed to get out there and get some real experience to be "ready". Ready for what. As I read it - underlying all of these comments is that sexual experiences is some sort of barter item to offer and the better the quality ...well the better the offer. I can't even imagine where a high school girl has gotten such a shallow opinion of her own sexuality.

    The first sexual experience for many of the young girls posting on her is clearly leaning toward the "feels good"..."our bodies want it"..."I'm on the pill". Well I'm glad I was in love with the first guy I slept with (didn't marry him but as I look back - that's a relief) and it was passionate but there was also a great deal of emotional satisfaction. And FYI gals - the pill might stop a pregnancy but it won't stop STD'S or death from AIDS.

    Facts are facts, multiple sexual partners leaves you at risk for many problems - some long term. Ask some women who are older and cannot get pregnant due to a rather fast track sexual youth.

    Perhaps those of us who rallied in the 60's for women's sexual freedoms did so to allow women CHOICE for their bodies but I'm deeply saddened to see how many young women today have reduced their own bodies to some object of trade. And the quantity of experiences seems to outweight the quality of relationships. Sounds horribly shallow.

    But perhaps this just folds into the "Peter Pan" generation concept that they will be young forever and are entitled to whatever they want, whenever they want it. Instant gratification is more important than self worth.

    The horse world isn't much different than the business world - sleeping your way to the top is a TOTAL MYTH. Selling your soul is easy - buying it back could take a lifetime and it's often too late when you come to realize your personal worth is in the red. JMHO
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    • #82
      Correct me if I'm wrong, but waiting until marriage was originally religious in that sex was to be reserved as something holy shared between two united under God. Later on disease may have played a factor.

      I am sickened by the fact that you should not be a virgin so it "doesn't complicate things". Uh, excuse me, but if he really loves me, he can wait... and I think part of this is something that our culture (media, etc) brings on. Watch one episode of FRIENDS and you'll be awakened to the fact that sex is so casual for them. I don't think I have ever heard them decide NOT to have sex with someone because they should wait. Where are the good examples? You'll have to head over to the WB and watch 7th Heaven, where AT LEAST you find some sort of moral basis (Not saying the media should raise everyone's kids, but they should realize that they DO have a large impact on the way people react to things and take that into consideration).

      sbt78lw- First of all, I just want to say that I hope I am like you when I reach your age. My parents have raised me to believe that you need to wait, not just "get it over with". The latter view is very dangerous, and IMHO, you need to actually get to know a guy before climbing into bed.

      Of course, what do I know? My parents won't let me date (I'll be 16 in October) yet and quite honestly, I don't have the time right now. While starlite was complicating her life and putting herself in danger (of pregnancy, STDs) at my age, I still haven't actually dated anyone. Maybe I'm far behind my peers and perhaps this will complicate things later one, but my parents really put their foot down. There will be NO clothing worn that is provocitive. There will be NO dating until age 16.

      Oops, I went off a bit... I guess I wanted to point out to a few people (who have FABULOUS points) that some teens take sex, dating, and clothing seriously. I don't want to wear clothing that makes me look older. Why? I don't want older guys looking at me... maybe I don't have enough male experience, but I feel very vunerable.

      Okay, I'm off my high horse. I'm not perfect, and maybe some see my dating record and choice of clothing as a handicap, but I should hope that I will make choices now that will positively effect my future, not leave me in regret. At this point in my life I have not lived long enough to make such decisions.

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      • #83
        just so you know, Enema (lovely name by the way, sounds like your style) it is against the BB rules to have alter egos

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        • #84
          "Its fun. It feels good for a reason, your body wants you to like doing it." Well, hmmmm a smoker or a drug addict can make that claim. Not very moving to me.

          "I do not have a case of denial. There was something I wanted that an older man had. I got it and moved on." Then later "Well, I dont exactly know what I got... besides a good night? I would say that it was no more damaging then an older woman spending a night with a male freind, deciding that isnt the relationship she wants with him and then just continueing on like it didnt happen." If you don't know what you wanted and aren't sure what you got even now, I'd say you are in denial a bit. If it was just a good night and then pretending it didn't happen, what is the point? I don't get it.

          I am not trying to pick on anyone in particular here, but the casual attitude demonstrated here is a little shocking to me. I was in college in the early 80's and I grew up near San Francisco. I remember people dying of AIDS vividly. I think in a time when you can be putting your life in the hands of the person you sleep with (and every one they have ever slept with) because of things like hepatitis and HIV, things should be considered more carefully.

          I can't say with certainty what age it is appropriate for girls to become sexually active. I think it is good if someone wants to save themselves (especially since there are life threatening diseases to contend with). But if you have to go to your mom to get on the pill, you probably aren't mature enough to be considering a sexual relationship.

          I think that parents lay the foundation for a person's sex life, in terms of values, judgement and decision making. But it should be something that is initiated well after the child/young adult (OMG, it seems so strange to say the world child in this sentence) is on the way the seperating themselves from their parents. I remember thinking my sex life was none of my parents business. I am sure they didn't feel that way but I did.

          The other thing is that in this particular discussion, I think it is wrong for people to use their own experience to justify their positions (even though to a certain extent I have). People are generally too involved on too many different levels to be objective about their own experience. I think that invalidates our points.
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          • #85
            "just so you know, Enema (lovely name by the way, sounds like your style) it is against the BB rules to have alter egos"

            Starlite, I am sure you will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe I remember Erin saying in the past that ONE alter is acceptable. I don't remember distinct rules outlawing using more than one name to post. If you have different email addresses, there is no way for COTH to know. Perhaps things are different on other boards you may be familiar with?

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            • #86
              It is amazing to me, but it seems we have our answer to the "underage sex in the horseworld" issue. Also, the drinking, smoking, drugs, etc. Kids, sorry...but at 14-16 you are still a KID, I don't care what your bra size, hormones, or your friends thing. I'm 20 and still consider myself barely an adult. Kids don't belong doing adult things. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, have sex,etc. My parents did not forbid it. They didn't even TALK to us about sex. Of course we all "knew" (who can be raised on a horse breeding farm and NOT?). We were encouraged to be mature people and to think about things before we did them. This did not make us adults at the age of 15. At 15, its your hormones talking. You don't truly understand the possible effects of what you do. One of my best friends had a baby when she was 17, it was the biggest wake up call of her life. She figured all was rosy, they were in love, it felt good, was fun, blahblah But let me tell you, that guy is long gone and she is having to really grow up now. She thought she was, but now realizes that she was far from it.
              I think part of it is the desire kids have to be adults (AKA: They can't grow up quick enough) so they start engaging in adult activities to seem for adult like. It doesn't work that way.

              I'm not saying everyone needs to wait until they are married, but at least wait until you don't need parental consent to get birth control! And then, really, the pill is not enough...protect yourselves and your partners in all ways possible.
              When you think about it, is all the worry worth the fun???

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              • #87
                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by starlite:
                just so you know, Enema (lovely name by the way, sounds like your style) it is against the BB rules to have alter egos <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                No it's not. It is not considered acceptable to abuse an alter. Given the fluctuating state of psychosis evident on this BB, a little exuberance has been known to have a positive therapeutic effect, although I have a strict policy of not encouraging exuberance, irrational or otherwise. But as much as I am loathe to admit it, it can occassionally be more stimulating than a tax cut. But like tax cuts, one can have too much of a good thing or one can abuse it. It's all about controlling the irrationality.

                And everyone knows how I feel about irrationality. And exuberance. And Hillarykins.
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                • #88
                  I agree with you, jl.

                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>It really isn't about the appropriate age for a young woman to have sex. That's a choice that only she can make.
                  It's about sex and power.
                  It's about adults using a position of trust to have sex with young girls.
                  It's about the fact that a 15 year old may not understand her real motivation for having sex with her 32 year old coach.
                  That’s the real issue, folks. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  And to that end, and given the fact that girls dominate the sport, are they more vulnerable to sexual predators in horse sports? While we've always been present for our daughter's lessons, have seen countless young children dropped off at the barn, picked up several hours later, and left mostly unsupervised - does this create and nurture an environment which enables sexual abuse? Are girls in horse sports more vulnerable to crushes and idol worship, and hence to sexual exploitation?

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                  • #89
                    Loff ya, Alan!

                    "I can justify anything!"
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                    • #90
                      Dear Lord...I am so completely shocked at some of the responses on this thread!

                      In my opinion, you are only mature enough to have sex when you are mature enough not to have sex Let me explain...a person who "can't help themselves", "gets caught up in the moment", "has raging hormones" is not mature enough to handle a sexual relationship. It's only when you have the self control to say "No" that you are possibly mature enough to have an intimate relationship. If you can't wait...than you're not ready.

                      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>my virginity is all about self-respect, self-control, and patience. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                      sbt78lw...I truly admire your integrity! Self control is not even in society's vocabulary anymore!

                      I feel for you young girls who have tricked yourselves into thinking that sleeping around at ages as young as 15 is ok. My heart breaks for you b/c of the heartaches that you may endure later in life.
                      \"Don\'t go throwing effort after foolishness\" >>>Spur, Man From Snowy River

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                      • #91
                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Czar:
                        I feel for you young girls who have tricked yourselves into thinking that sleeping around at ages as young as 15 is ok. My heart breaks for you b/c of the heartaches that you may endure later in life.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                        What the heck are you talking about? What heartaches?

                        I can't believe the judgemental name-calling harpy type behaviour going on on this thread. If you're all so freaking mature and wise, stop calling teenagers nasty names! Good grief

                        No wonder young people stay silent about sexuality and abuse if that's the reaction they can expect.

                        And that's all I have to say about that

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                        • #92
                          amen, maggiemay! I have plenty of self-respect, don't worry

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                          • #93
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Calico:
                            starlite is Emma <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            LOL. Not that I know of. Emma and I are really close(have been for a few years...the MHC bond) and when I talk to her on the phone and online(did so just this morning), she says that she doesn't miss posting over here after being uncerimoniously booted. She prefers The Tack Room

                            Also, I know for a fact that she didn't meet her boyfriend until she turned 18...when she went to a party with me at a nearby school during MHC preview and met him there. Hey, I was there....I know. LOL. I think you've got it WAY wrong Miss Enema.

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                            • #94
                              Either that or you have it wrong.
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                              • #95
                                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I can't believe the judgemental name-calling harpy type behaviour going on on this thread. If you're all so freaking mature and wise, stop calling teenagers nasty names! Good grief <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                Who's calling anyone names? And being concerned for someone makes you a harpy?! Not a single post that I have read on this thread seemed judgemental to me. It was only people honestly expressing their beliefs.

                                I suppose you have been one of the lucky ones who have never had any heartache in life yet? Do you suppose there are no 17 yr old girls with babies out there b/c they chose to have sex before they understood what they were really doing? Or perhaps the 15 yr old with AIDS? And those are just the physical heartaches. There's many emotional ones that go along with that.

                                I always find is somewhat amusing when a person accuses someone of being judgemental in the same breath that they judge others.
                                \"Don\'t go throwing effort after foolishness\" >>>Spur, Man From Snowy River

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                                • #96
                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Czar:
                                  Who's calling anyone names? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                  I believe the words "slut" "in denial" have been thrown around as well as intimitations of stupidity, sleeping around (when people clearly stated that they weren't/hadn't. I particularly am appalled by the fact that several people have equated losing your virginity with the inability to say "no". Oh, so once you've had sex once you just roll into bed with anyone who comes along?? please!

                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>And being concerned for someone makes you a harpy?! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                  I'm not seeing a lot of concern, mostly condemnation.

                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I suppose you have been one of the lucky ones who have never had any heartache in life yet? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                  You can get your heart broken at any age.

                                  This thread is supposed to be about abuse but I think we've effectively eliminated any kind of supportive environment

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                                  • #97
                                    maggymay...as you will notice in the earlier posts - the individuals being "harped" on, have stated that they have never been abused so supporting them is not an issue. People are allowed to disagree.

                                    As for getting your heart broken at any age, yes this is true, but (and I'm sure many people will jump on this) it is more likely to be broken when you are young as you often do not have the knowledge and/or experience yet to see things for what they are.

                                    And I disagree that this thread has eliminated any kind of supportive environment...no one yet has said that a young person who has been sexually abused asked for it or deserved it. In fact, the opposite is true. Everyone agrees that a person in power over a minor would be abusing their responsibility if he/she became sexually involved with their student. That to me does not seem unsupportive.
                                    \"Don\'t go throwing effort after foolishness\" >>>Spur, Man From Snowy River

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                                    • #98
                                      I think the point is that when people think that consensual sexual activity among young people is shameful, that makes it all the more difficult for victims of sexual abuse to disclose their experience.

                                      It is just not helpful, when we know that at least one in every 4 girls is a victim of sexual assault, sexual abuse, or attempted sexual assault, to go on about how shameful sex-out-of-marriage is. For god's sake, those kids already struggle with self-blame.

                                      Look at it this way: your older cousin rapes you after school on a regular basis, except you don't have the word "rape" to use. Cousin just tells you that "this is how people show how they love each other." You are 10, 12, 13 or 14 years old. Older cousin also says that he can't help himself, and that it's all YOUR fault. You also have to sit though idiot "celibacy" education classes at school, in which you learn that good kids don't have sex until they are married. You have had sex, you aren't married.....draw your own conclusions. Kids who have been through this kind of experience--and you can't tell who's who by looking at them--don't need people pontificating about how the way they are coping with past abuse (which might be through excessive sexual activity, it's a common reaction) is "immoral."

                                      And please don't assume that the above is a personal story.

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                                      • #99
                                        I understand your point hobson...I don't think anyone is neccessarily condemning sex-outside-of-marriage - it's just shocking to hear of young girls that will sleep around for fun. Making the decision to have several sexual partners before the age of 16 and being abused are two very different things.

                                        But, as everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, do people also not have a right to disagree with sex before marriage? And we're talking intentional here. In our day and age, it is increasingly difficult to believe in abstinence before marriage. You are accused of being close-minded, judgemental, and old fashioned.

                                        I don't believe that anyone should change what they believe in to fit what society thinks is correct. Yes, there are young people who are coping with abuse by having several sexual partners, and although it is a tragedy...it's still not right. Those kids need to know that there is help for them. I can't go against all that I believe in and say that this is not immoral, but I can feel for the young people going through such things and hope that they seek some help instead of trying to cope in their own way.
                                        \"Don\'t go throwing effort after foolishness\" >>>Spur, Man From Snowy River

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                                        • #100
                                          Stop right there Hobson. My points were clear and I stand behind them. I can't believe that individuals with good self esteem make comments about "getting what they wanted out of it" and making virginity into something that SHAMEFUL. Don't try to twist the points that are made here.

                                          We started with ADULTS (disfuntional at best) who have sexual relations with minors (sorry - to those of you who disagree with the age of minority in your state or commonwealth - work on changing the law). We know this goes on in the horse world as it does in many sports where young people - male or female - are under the (often unsupervised) control of trainers and coaches. Many of these adults have their own mental baggage.

                                          Clearly the point has been made that giving young girls and young women a sense of self worth - beyond the value of a hot one night stand for pleasure's sake only - will provide them with a solid basis to know that saying NO to an adult's advances is their right under the law and as a person.

                                          What has been objected to here is the flippant attitude of some of the posters regarding intimate sexual activity and what many of us, including the legal system, deem too young. If you feel the gals on this BB who seem to feel asking for birth control at 15 is the barometer of their maturity - well I'm not sure how that supports your thesis on young people not wanting to come forward when raped or abused.

                                          Clearly it's an individual decision, but for me the concept of a mother giving a 15 yo birth control begs the question - "but is this young woman responsible enough to handle ongoing sexual relations". IMHO - from the posts by this individual - I don't see the self-proclaimed maturity. I also wonder how her father felt about this decision.

                                          Young girls or boys & even teenage girls or boys who are abused or raped don't come forward because there is no perceived safety net for them. I would argue that the posts on here that treat virginity like some growth to be removed because it is unsightly is more damage to the psychology of a young person faced with this loss involuntarily. If the generation deems it un-important - than why would some young person raped/abused feel anyone cared when they had their's violently taken away from them?

                                          Certainly you can't control what young people do on their own time - out of the view of their parents - but by God I'm glad that when I made these very decisions about my own life - I had the ideology instilled in me to consider WHAT I was doing, with WHOM I was doing it and if I was willing to accept ALL THE POSSIBLE RAMIFICATIONS OF THIS DECISION beyond the passion of the moment and that age old "just to feel good" moment of insanity.

                                          Trainers, teachers, priests, parents, adults, etc. etc. have a responsibility to not only NOT cross the line to take advantage of youth - they also have the responsibility to instill in youth the responsibility they have for their actions and, more importantly reactions, to feelings toward adults in their lives or advances FROM adults in their lives.
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