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  • If that were the case, which it's not, then any personal experience that any of us relate would not be allowed since very little of it would have been "documented in print elsewhere."

    You have issues. Take them someplace else and allow this thread to get back to the worthwhile discussion that was going on until it was so rudely interrupted.

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    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>any personal experience that any of us relate would not be allowed <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

      no. you're missing the distinction between personal experience and criminal accusation.

      big difference.

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      • btw, i also said i hope he gets what he deserves.

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        • Sigh. No, you're missing the point. Unless there is only one person in the entire world who fits the extreme general discription given by the poster in question, the only person on this thread who knows who the offender is is the poster.

          Unless, of course, you're the offender in question?

          It would be far, far easier to figure out and track down the trainers mentioned on this thread who slept with their minor students than it would be to figure out who some unknown accupunturist is. Unless, as I said, you're him.

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          • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Unless there is only one person in the entire world who fits the extreme general discription <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

            the poster's identity is no secret. anyone with a modicum of intelligence could find out who her accutherapist is. and they would find out it wasnt me, if that makes you happy.

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            • like i said 3 pages ago, i hate innuendo

              so are you the offender or what?

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              • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> like i said 3 pages ago, i hate innuendo
                <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                so why use the alter then?

                I don't know Heidi, but there is a family of Korean accupuncturists in my town, not that unique, I'd think.

                Too weird.. good night
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                • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nhwr:
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> like i said 3 pages ago, i hate innuendo
                  <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  so why use the alter then?

                  I don't know Heidi, but there is a family of Korean accupuncturists in my town, not that unique, I'd think.

                  Too weird.. good night<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  And there are many, many, many of accupuncturists of Asian descent here, too. So unless you know Heidi well enough to know what her real name is and where she lives (in which case, I'd be running and changing my name, Heidi -- you have ANOTHER stalker! ), it'd be impossible to have any idea who she was talking about.

                  Eh. I've wasted too much of COTH's bandwidth playing with you anyway. I trust your jollies are sated.

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                  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>there is a family of Korean accupuncturists in my town, not that unique <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                    right
                    so anyone with a modicum of intelligence would have more than one suspect in the case.

                    columbo where are you?

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                    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> there are many, many, many of accupuncturists of Asian descent here <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                      anyone can figure out who Heidi is. You made the point about the accused being Korean (actually Heidi made it first, but you made it before me). What does that have to do with it?

                      I agree you've wasted too much time. We agree.

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                      • i guess you gave up on suggesting i was a sex offender when you decided instead to cluelessly imply that i am a racist

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                        • anyway back on topic:
                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>My query's really directed at the 'younger' among the posters:

                          Do you feel like you and your b/f share an 'equal' relationship?

                          Yup. Matt and I have a strong relationship. We're best friends at this point in our lives. If I need anything I know hes there for me, and the same goes to him.

                          Is your b/f as equally apt to assume some of the 'traditional' female roles - cooking, cleaning, nurturing, etc.?

                          Not really, since his mother did EVERYTHING for them in the home. BUT hes learning very quickly. And isn't afraid to do so, its just a matter of me refusing to take on all the duties and him never having that opprotunity before..

                          Who plans your dates - you or your b/f?
                          We're poor college students, we don't go out. But he lets me pick stuff for the most part, hes much more laid back than I...

                          Who pays for your dates - you or b/f?
                          well we never go out, but whoever has money at the time. this changes.

                          Is he supportive/understanding of your passions, hobbies, studies?
                          yup, he wants to take some riding lessons so he can go on trail rides with me. We go to the library together and do homework when one of us has a test (even if the other doesnt, its easier to make yourself go if tehres someone with you) I am supportive of hte motorcycle thing. .

                          Would you describe your b/f as a supportive of basic equal rights between the sexes or is he more of a traditionalist? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                          He is extremely supportive of me and whatever I want to do. I got a new job, I found us a new house, he just wants me to be happy and is there for me when I need to fall back on him. (emotionally)

                          he doesnt sound so bad for a guy I originally decided was for use only as an FB.

                          Laura
                          Laura

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                          • Just so the point is clear ... Beezer is correct, what Heidi said is within the BB rules.

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                            • Speaking of criminal activity. In a case where a minor is involved sexually with an adult - the complaint against the adult can be filed by a third party. So if young people have some idea that being involved with trainers is a private matter between two consenting parties - well the law looks upon this differently.
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                              • Thats probably why no one hears about these cases... they stay between the two that were involved so no one else can get them in trouble.

                                Marion
                                *Amalia*

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                                • Wow, I cant believe i just read 13 pages of this, but this is pretty important stuff. I wanted to comment on what so many people said but there is too much to remember so I think I will just share my opinion.

                                  I really respect the people, such as sbt78lw and rugbug who have decided to wait AND I also have respect for posters such as starlite and Albion who didnt feel they needed to be married to be ready.

                                  I developed early, had my first period by 11 and was a B cup by the 5th or 6th grade. It really shot my confidence when I felt like kid in a woman's body. Because of that, I never really felt too comfortable around guys when I was growing up. Like most girls, i would get nervous when i tried to talk to a guy I liked but even guys I had no interest in intimidated me. Instead, i found my best friend, who to this day gives me incredible strength and I spent my highschool years figuring out who I was and what i wanted. Some girls dont need that long to figure themselves out, some need longer- it's about the individual.

                                  When I was 18, I had sex for the first time. I had only been the guy for about 6 weeks but I was on the pill, had talked to my mum (with whom I have always had a very open and trusting relationship) and we used condoms. I felt safe, had no fear that it would hurt, or he wouldnt love me or he would cheat on me. At the time, this guy lived across the country from me and I never once questioned his love for me.

                                  My point is, there is no specific age or time when sex is right- for me it was at 18, with this man (who, after being together for over 2 years, i would not be suprised if I marry). For others it's earlier, for others later.

                                  Instead of trying to pick an age when people are ready, we need to focus on giving girls and boys the ability and strength to know themselves and make the right choices for them. It's about knowledge and self-esteem.

                                  I also wanted to answer the questions asked by Heidi because I think my answers provide a different response to efforts for fairness made by women before me.

                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Do you feel like you and your b/f share an 'equal' relationship? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                  Yes, we are there for each other no matter how hard it can be

                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Is your b/f as equally apt to assume some of the 'traditional' female roles - cooking, cleaning, nurturing, etc.? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                  He helps, but we both happen to like our traditional roles- the point of feminist efforts (in my mind) is that I can choose to be in the traditional female roles

                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Who plans your dates - you or your b/f? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                  We do it together, depending on what the activity is and who is better equipped to plan it

                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Who pays for your dates - you or b/f?
                                  My BF does usually- I am paying my way through university right now, he has more money and likes taking care of me

                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Is he supportive/understanding of your passions, hobbies, studies?
                                  Yes, he is encouraging me to get back into riding, even though he knows it means he will see me about half as often, if that much- but he knows it makes me happy and to him, that's what matters.

                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Would you describe your b/f as a supportive of basic equal rights between the sexes or is he more of a traditionalist?
                                  He does believe that we should get equal pay for equal jobs but we both agree that we want one person to stay home with our kids- we both like the traditional idea of that person being me, and since he will likely have a better paying job (because of his education and the job he wants), it makes sense that I will stay home.

                                  Sorry for the marathon post but I think a lot of people have moved away from the most important thing- we need to empower boys and girls so that they can make the best decision for themselves.
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                                  • Cute Hunter, your mum did a very good job.

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                                    • Great post, CuteHunter. I agree whole heartedly on most of your points.

                                      -Albion

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                                      • OT but thanks Albion and Beezer. Beezer- thank you and I will tell my mum you said that- I dont think I can ever convince her of what a wonderful mother she truly is. When she and my dad divorced she sacrificed everything so that my sister and I could keep the normalcy of riding in her lives. She's an angel, if only I could convince her.
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                                        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
                                          would you please leave me alone? I'm getting a little creeped out here.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                          You kind of asked for it, didn't you? Ranking on COTH so, then actually comming back abnd posting ubnder a different name? Seems a little hypocritical to me, but who am I to comment?

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