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    !!**Can't get enough talking,posting,complaining,praising,fan of Parelli thread**!!

    ******changed from original post*******

    Since everyone just wants to continue talking, posting, praising, complaining, about Parelli....


    Borrowed from a friend:



    There is a notion among many horse lovers that there is a hard-core absolute right way and absolute wrong way to do things.

    I chatted with a Clinician at an event one year who told me that he absolutely thought what Pat Parelli teaches was just dead wrong. He disagreed with "every word." I was curious to learn what he thought was right, so I made a point to watch his presentation about developing a ranch horse. Afterwords, I mentioned that he'd done quite a nice job and, "Oh, by the way, you didn't say one word that Pat Parelli would have disagreed with. You just said it differently than he does."

    So observing other horsemanship techniques and taking a moment to consider what could be learned from it is not such a bad idea. And perhaps the Dressage riders, the Western riders and the Natural Horsemanship riders will all stop fussing so much about "what's wrong" about what the other folks are doing, and focus on the things that work, that are good for our horses.

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    Last edited by 7HL; Apr. 27, 2011, 12:13 PM.
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    #2
    Um...are you assuming none of us know Clinton Anderson exists or have ever seen anything he does, including the whip? It's basically an ad for a clinic. (And I own a couple whips, though not the pig poles "Natural" trainers seem to favor. Most people with horses do. We just call them what they are.)

    Dunno. Not a fan of rope halters (but hey, there's no shank to smash the horse's head with so that's a plus and there are people on here who don't use any system who swear by them, so whatever floats your boat), and I don't get systems that think you should ever stand directly in front of the horse (the spot where anyone with basic knowlegde of how their eyes work knows is right where the horse cannot see you) but as far as I can tell from still pictures I don't see any horses being horrible stressed, beaten in the face with a chain, or with their leg jacked up by a rope and with a lip chain on. People want to pay a bunch of money to spend all day 'lunging' horses before getting on (which they eventually do, it appears), I guess.

    What videos I HAVE seen of CA, again, I don't see especially stressed horses (certainly no more than I've seen with a lot of H/J trainers who love a lunge line), just at times bemused ones. Looks like similar marketing schtick to the Parellis, fewer "contraband" vidoes of people losing their tempers or frying the horses' brains. What's your point?
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      #3
      When I rode with Ray Hunt back in 2000, his stick was a retractable car antennae with a duct tape handle.


      IIRC the SRS uses hickory sticks?


      What's your point?

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        #4
        Ad hominem attacks on other NH trainers does not make me see PP in a softer light.

        Nice try though, someone may fall for it.

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          #5
          oh cool a new Parelli thread!

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            #6
            Originally posted by LMH View Post
            oh cool a new Parelli thread!
            Parelli is the gift that keeps giving. Kinda like hemorrhoids or herpes.

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              #7
              Originally posted by 7HL View Post
              Many posts on here attribute sticks to a particular trainer.

              Here's a clinic with sticks of many colors.

              Clinton Anderson Fundamentals Clinic

              http://youtu.be/1UhO8fenhOY


              Uh....virtually every trainer I've ever seen uses something to act as an extension of their arm....carrot stick, lunge whip, dressage whip, driving whip, riding crop.....or old telescoping car antenna or a long willow switch....color, material, doesn't make any difference....knowing HOW to use it and WHEN to use it and when to apply and release pressure....that's what matters.

              Nice try.
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                #8
                Originally posted by LMH View Post
                oh cool a new Parelli thread!


                A little early here for popcorn and wine but then I don't have a lot to do today........
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by LMH View Post
                  oh cool a new Parelli thread!
                  Yeah, the last one I think they drank too much tequila because they are all speaking spanish now.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by saddlebum122 View Post
                    Ad hominem attacks on other NH trainers does not make me see PP in a softer light.
                    Whoa ... second use of this term on COTH in less than 24 hours. What a literate lot we are!

                    7HL -- a lot of these guys have their own gimmicks and stuff for sale. That fact doesn't make one or the other any better or worse, IMO.

                    Yeah, the last one I think they drank too much tequila because they are all speaking spanish now.
                    Last edited by mp; Apr. 21, 2011, 01:59 PM.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by saddlebum122 View Post
                      Parelli is the gift that keeps giving. Kinda like hemorrhoids or herpes.
                      Thanks, orange pop is now all over my keyboard!!
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by saddlebum122 View Post
                        Ad hominem attacks on other NH trainers does not make me see PP in a softer light..
                        Originally posted by mp View Post
                        Whoa ... second use of this term on COTH in less than 24 hours. What a literate lot we are!
                        Mebbe I larned sumbuddy sumthin here.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by mp View Post
                          Whoa ... second use of this term on COTH in less than 24 hours. What a literate lot we are!
                          Awe, someone beat me to the punch using my big word?

                          We have big word night at the local bar once a week complete with a dictionary and lots of liquor. It's a great way to justify a night of too many drinks since it's for the sake of learning.

                          So I'm sad because I'd been waiting for just the right time to use ad hominem in a sentence only to find out someone stole my thunder.

                          Ah, well. I still have defenestrate.

                          I would like to defenestrate the Parellis.

                          Okay. Now I feel better.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by 7HL
                            Agreed. Sometimes the only way to tell the difference is buy the color of their sticks.
                            By gosh and by golly, "buy" is the operative word with these scams, dontcha know.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Petstorejunkie View Post
                              Ah, well. I still have defenestrate.

                              I would like to defenestrate the Parellis.
                              One of my favorites.

                              Right up there with "disingenuous," a handy term if you don't want to come right out and call someone a liar. As in ...

                              Pat Parelli was being disingenuous when he said he bailed off his horse at Road to the Horse. He pushed the horse too hard and got bucked off.

                              Linda Parelli gave a disingenuous explanation of what she doing in the infamous Barney video. She was hitting a one-eyed horse on his blind side. No way to get around that.
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                                #16
                                I think the OP is getting at that not just Parelliites use sticks for training. Everyone uses sticks. Jockeys (short stick), dressage riders (dressage whip - long stick), NH people (carrot stick), Ray Hunt (car stick?.. )

                                Point being, there are times when training a horse that stickin' your face down there in it's junk isn't the best idea a stick is a stick is a stick. Maybe I should keep a shillelagh next to my dressage/lunge whips/bats/car antennas with duct tape... it's good for beatin' the arrogance outta people. Or maybe I'm just a little too into my Irish heritage.

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                                  #17
                                  _____? She's a vituperative, vitriolic, virago.

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by saddlebum122 View Post
                                    Parelli is the gift that keeps giving. Kinda like hemorrhoids or herpes.
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by MarionHorse View Post
                                      I think the OP is getting at that not just Parelliites use sticks for training. Everyone uses sticks. Jockeys (short stick), dressage riders (dressage whip - long stick), NH people (carrot stick), Ray Hunt (car stick?.. )

                                      Point being, there are times when training a horse that stickin' your face down there in it's junk isn't the best idea a stick is a stick is a stick. Maybe I should keep a shillelagh next to my dressage/lunge whips/bats/car antennas with duct tape... it's good for beatin' the arrogance outta people. Or maybe I'm just a little too into my Irish heritage.

                                      But you can only use it on Irish Sport Horses you know. Really, you have a shillelagh? Cool!
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by katarine View Post
                                        _____? She's a vituperative, vitriolic, virago.
                                        Oh goody, some one into alliteration!!
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