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  • #81
    Bravo Castlegate!
    Success is not the result of spontaneous combustion; you must set yourself on fire

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    • #82
      Sorry for not posting a caution on the link I posted. There are some disturbing photos that appear as the page loads.

      Way to go Castlegate !!!

      Keep us posted.

      I have been searching for info on Jodi Ramey but have found nothing.
      It is possible you know that she may not really own the horses but is acting like she does to protect a killer buyer.
      This happens alot especially with all the media.
      This happened not to long ago a killer buyer name frank bauer was hauling a full load of horses in a double decker to a slaughter holding lot and it turned over.
      Wonder why nothing was done then.

      We are not sure who the trucking company was yet.

      I will let you know the minute I get more info.
      Ms Robin
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      • #83
        Way to go Castlegate!

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        • #84
          Anyone doing a google search, this information can be found:

          Fleming County Packing Co.
          233 Railroad St.
          Flemingsburg, KY 41041
          (606) 845-1011
          Multi-species

          Also doing a Google search, one can find the phone number of Jodi Ramey. I wonder what the relationship is between Jodi and Kristopher Ramey, the driver of the truck.
          The virtual "woodshed" seems the only remedy for willful fools .

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          • #85
            Way to go Castlegate!
            I also sent copies of the story/background to the 3 affiliates in Lexington - it is the closest large city to Flemingsburg. I also e-mailed the IN Dept of AG - I intend to pester them until I get a reply.

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            • #86
              You all are better than detectives! Great job Castlegate!

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              • #87
                Let's not forget the state of MN.
                To know the whole truth will be to know where the horses originally came from, what's the laws regarding crossing state lines in that state and what the log book says, if there is one or did it go up in the small fire?

                I so hope we hear about the remaining horses. Hope they know they've changed a few lives.
                "Concern for animals is a matter of taking the side of the weak against the strong, something the best people have always done." Harriet Beecher Stowe 1811-1896

                Ponies are cool!

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                • #88
                  Joanne: I was wondering the same thing (about the packing co). There is also a riding camp w/ same last name 4 hours (from Flemingsburg) over in Rockport IN in case there is a relation (and very possibly isn't a relation, so not accusing them) & the riding story is true. All are close to each other, not the most common name.
                  "There's a fine line between genius and madness. I've removed that line." -Super Genius/me

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                  • #89
                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SeaOat:
                    jumper11: The ban also includes banning transporting & exporting. Best to actually read the bill *first* then do a ton of research. Not trying to open a chat on slaughter, as it's recent on another thread, but no doubt that is where these 50 or so horses were/are heading.

                    On the use of double decker cattle trailers to transport horses. Any state that has a law against the cruel and inhumane transport of horses or animals, can use that law to prosecute people who use double deckers to transport horses. In court the prosecutor must prove and demonstrate why a double deck cattle trailer is cruel and inhumane for horses. This is not difficult. This is a no brainer. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                    I understand that, but are they also going to ban horses going to Mexico? They may ban the shipment of horses on double deckers here, but that certainly doesn't mean horses won't still be shipped (under the radar) to MExico, be loaded on a double decker for another hellish ride to an even more uncleanly, inhumane death. You can't tell me that they will be able to inforce the "shipment and transport" of horses going to slaughter, come on.

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                    • #90
                      &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;Castlegate &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt ; Great job! This BB is so awesome at times like this.

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                      • #91
                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jumper11:
                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SeaOat:
                        jumper11: The ban also includes banning transporting & exporting. Best to actually read the bill *first* then do a ton of research. Not trying to open a chat on slaughter, as it's recent on another thread, but no doubt that is where these 50 or so horses were/are heading.

                        On the use of double decker cattle trailers to transport horses. Any state that has a law against the cruel and inhumane transport of horses or animals, can use that law to prosecute people who use double deckers to transport horses. In court the prosecutor must prove and demonstrate why a double deck cattle trailer is cruel and inhumane for horses. This is not difficult. This is a no brainer. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                        I understand that, but are they also going to ban horses going to Mexico? They may ban the shipment of horses on double deckers here, but that certainly doesn't mean horses won't still be shipped (under the radar) to MExico, be loaded on a double decker for another hellish ride to an even more uncleanly, inhumane death. You can't tell me that they will be able to inforce the "shipment and transport" of horses going to slaughter, come on. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


                        This bill will make it illegal to transport horses across the border for slaughter. They will have to cross a check point into Mexico with the load. Though in theory it may be tried but the likelyhood that it would be cost effective in the long term is unlikely. Illegal runs of horses into Mexico I don't think will become the next big dollar heist. I will give our Border Patrol a big shout out because I'm sure they will know the difference between a couple horses going in for ownership and a load that looks to be headed for slaughter.

                        Way to go Castlegate :-)!!!!!!!!!!!!
                        NO HORSES TO SLAUGHTER CLIQUE
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                        • #92
                          Does anyone have a contact with the national media, such as CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC, etc.? This sounds like a national story....
                          "Whether you think you can or think you can't, you are right." -Henry Ford

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                          • #93
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SweatySaddlepad:
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jumper11:
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SeaOat:
                            jumper11: The ban also includes banning transporting & exporting. Best to actually read the bill *first* then do a ton of research. Not trying to open a chat on slaughter, as it's recent on another thread, but no doubt that is where these 50 or so horses were/are heading.

                            On the use of double decker cattle trailers to transport horses. Any state that has a law against the cruel and inhumane transport of horses or animals, can use that law to prosecute people who use double deckers to transport horses. In court the prosecutor must prove and demonstrate why a double deck cattle trailer is cruel and inhumane for horses. This is not difficult. This is a no brainer. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            I understand that, but are they also going to ban horses going to Mexico? They may ban the shipment of horses on double deckers here, but that certainly doesn't mean horses won't still be shipped (under the radar) to MExico, be loaded on a double decker for another hellish ride to an even more uncleanly, inhumane death. You can't tell me that they will be able to inforce the "shipment and transport" of horses going to slaughter, come on. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


                            This bill will make it illegal to transport horses across the border for slaughter. They will have to cross a check point into Mexico with the load. Though in theory it may be tried but the likelyhood that it would be cost effective in the long term is unlikely. Illegal runs of horses into Mexico I don't think will become the next big dollar heist. I will give our Border Patrol a big shout out because I'm sure they will know the difference between a couple horses going in for ownership and a load that looks to be headed for slaughter.

                            Way to go Castlegate :-)!!!!!!!!!!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


                            I certainly hope so.

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                            • #94
                              Seems to me there is a strong possibility that the vet in KY would have some grounds to stop the shipment (or at least the shipment of the foal). I'll have to paraphrase here as I'm at work and shouldn't really be posting and can't really take the time to quote everything...but in the previous posts the tests for EIA were not required for suckling foals that were traveling with their dams provided the dam had been tested. In the news reports they showed that 2 month old foal who was traveling and then went on to say the dam had been killed. I highly doubt they had time to test the foal before loading it up for the final 3 hour leg. Therefore, the foal is now traveling w/out its test and w/out its dam...

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                              • #95
                                I just emailed CNN the information and links. Hope they pick up this story!
                                "Whether you think you can or think you can't, you are right." -Henry Ford

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                                • #96
                                  Jumper.....PLEEEEEASE just read the Bill
                                  That's what the word "export" means as well. There are all sorts of questions that can be answered.
                                  Illegal exports/imports of anything banned, drugs, animals & such, are only made more difficult but never impossible. Doesn't mean you roll over & ignore it, as you know . Fortunately horses are a little larger so helps a little, also forces cost of meat to rise & puts people at risk of penaties they might not want to risk. And we all feel better saying we tried.....
                                  "There's a fine line between genius and madness. I've removed that line." -Super Genius/me

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                                  • #97
                                    Good Job Castelgate. I hope the public outcry will help some horses. It is a shame so many had to die this way in order for the non-horsey public to take notice.
                                    I\'m not crazy. I\'m just a little unwell.

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                                    • #98
                                      I can only hope that the State Vet in KY was sincere in his response to me (he sounded it) and that he makes some calls to get the details and if there is anything that can be done to tar and feather that $%@*! for transporting horses that way, he can.

                                      Indiana of course has not responded to me...of course by the time I sent KY the message the horses were more than likely at their final destination....so stopping them from entering KY is probably not an option.

                                      Finding them and making sure they are ok will be my next mission!
                                      PROUD MEMBER OF THE \"OMGiH I LOFF MY MARE\" CLIQUE

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                                      • #99
                                        One would think that, if the horses were intended to be sold as riding horses (doesn't sound like it to me), some of those horses would need vet care after that trip. I don't have the nerve to call, but I found this info. Maybe they know about this Jodi person.

                                        Tri County Veterinarian
                                        Rt. 3, Box 226, Hwy 11
                                        Flemingsburg, Kentucky 41041

                                        Tel: 606-845-0469
                                        FAX: None provided
                                        Email: none provided

                                        Dr. Christopher Sims
                                        Dr. Darin Stanfield

                                        Hours: 8:00am-5:00pm; Emergency 24 hours on call
                                        Info: Large Animal Practice
                                        The virtual "woodshed" seems the only remedy for willful fools .

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                                        • #100
                                          Thank you everyone for working so hard to track down the facts of this story and forwarding them to places that can actually get something done. The latest news video someone posted is simply awful. They were loading up 3-legged horses who could barely hobble (and the orphaned foal, too) back into cramped trailers. There's no way these guys have futures as "pleasure horses". I hope someone puts the pressure on the owner for her tactics.

                                          Has anyone contacted media in Kentucky? I would love to see TV cameras waiting for the horses to arrive at the owner's farm, if there even is one. I'm sure there will be some awful sights on the trailer once they get there....or are they already there?

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