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  • NY Times Article- Vet Fired by TRF

    It sounds to me like the wrong person was fired from that organization!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/sp...tml?ref=sports

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    Um, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it sounds like the TRF fired the vet who was hired by the Paul Mellon estate. How does that work? Well, I mean it works because they told their caretakers not to let on the farms. But Geez, how stupid is that? The Mellon Trust is a (if not the) primary source of their income isn't it?

    This just kills me. It's awful for the horses and yet another black eye for the entire horse industry.

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    • #3
      Vet fired by TRF

      Wow, talk about shooting the messenger....

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dogontired View Post
        Wow, talk about shooting the messenger....
        Agreed.
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        • #5
          TRF fires whistleblower veterinarian - seriously???

          link at horsetalk.co.nz w/ article on TRF and fired vet:

          http://horsetalk.co.nz/news/2011/03/164.shtml

          interesting quotes from this article:

          "Foundation president George Grayson was quoted by Drape as saying there were questions over her [Dr. Huntington DVM's] objectivity, and that inspections would continue once a replacement or replacements were found."

          "Huntington was accompanied by a local vet at each farm. Each was invited to disagree with her evaluation of each horse, and only one ever did, grading one horse slightly thinner."

          Perhaps the board members should get off their respective rear ends and personally visit ALL of the facilities.....let's check that "objectivity", Mr. Grayson....

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          • #6
            these stories are just sickening. not sure why i'm surprised... guess i'm a perpetual optimist...
            i am glad they're getting this publicity. a lady at my office approached me the other day to ask if i read the original story. she's by no means a horsey person. she was v. upset over what she read.
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            • #7
              Something tells me there is more to this story than meets eye and this article; horse owners cannot be this stupid!

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              • #8
                I'm afraid they can!
                Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground.

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                • #9
                  The wrong person was def. fired. Never mind the TRF stiffed these farms, it shows that you MUST have someone checking up on boarded horses to be sure they are being cared for. ESPECIALLY if you aren't paying the barn owner!

                  Jeez Louise...

                  Man those people make me sick. In fact they all do, the rich ones at the top who didn't pay their bills and made a mess of things and the barn owners who just let the horses starve.

                  As far as objectivity those pictures were pretty objective!
                  Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground.

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                  • #10
                    Not surprised at all, after the wholesale line of fresh manure their flagshi(p?t?) MMSC put out about Mice in the Grain.

                    Hey, I understand! If you don't like the message, execute the messenger. Worked just fine for Stalin, why not here?

                    Why should they care about firing a vet when they aren't even willing to provide clean feed?

                    Perhaps if they trained their PR better than they trained their mice, they wouldn't have lost millions of dollars worth of donations.

                    Oh, how the mighty elephant trembles at the crossing of a simple field mouse...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SanJacMonument View Post
                      Something tells me there is more to this story than meets eye and this article; horse owners cannot be this stupid!
                      Sadly, intelligence does not automatically convey with purchasing a horse. In fact, in many cases I think low intelligence and lack of common sense, or any at all, is a determining factor in many instances of horse ownership.
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                      • #12
                        They've already lost funding too... Those poor horses. Rescue's everywhere are going to suffer because of this.

                        Disgusting!
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                        • #13
                          This is horrible, if they're going to let them suffer, they might as well have put them down instead of retiring them

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                          • #14
                            article by Bill Finley

                            He thinks it's the end of TRF. What a sad debacle.

                            http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ill&id=6247743

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                            • #15
                              This is sadly not surprising. I am tired of it though. Same story, different tune.
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