My cousin's parents dropped a bundle on a Children's horse for her back in the day. Wouldn't take him to any local shows because he was an "A" horse. He was such a pig. First "A" show they were at he dropped her ass in the ring in the first class. He was not attractive and had nasty big splints and horrible ground manners. When you would blanket him he would try and grab you. When she quit riding they wouldn't let me show him and wouldn't sell him because "someone might try and race him again, he can fly around the field". Yeah, they always retire the fast ones to the show ring, and who doesn't want to stage a comeback for a 16 year old washed up gelding. The sad thing is they let him rot in a field until he had to be put down and I was the only one who was willing to be with him when he crossed the bridge
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LOL, it was a seasonal thing for me...Originally posted by Go Fish View Post
I've OWNED horses I hated. Does that count?
but I really have not seen a horse I disliked.
A misbehaved horse usually has an owner who lets it happen. And even if it was a friend....
When I was a kid it was easier to speak my mind... nowadays, as adult you have to weigh your words carefully.
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Me too, this sounds almost exactly like me and my friend's situation. My friend HATES my horse. Even though he's such a sweetheart. Shes just an, excuse my french, b*tch. He misbehaves with her because he knows he can get away with it because shes really not a good rider. He's a pain in the butt in the stall, but not once has he ever bitten any body. He just "threatens" as in, puts his ears back to let people know he isn't comfortable with them standing there. As soon as he is out of his stall, hes an angel. Some friends are just unfair because they get a little "jealous" and try to make it seem like that horse is terrible, when really, he's just a little green.Originally posted by Ozone View PostLOL that is my horse. However, put a saddle on him and you will have a nothing but stellar performances from him..
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I think often times it's not that we dislike our friends' horses, we dislike their choice in horses. Most horses are good for somebody, but just not said friend. But some people just seem to get a thought in their head where they feel they are capable of riding or managing a certain type of horse that they truly are not. It's not the horse's fault... it's just someone doesn't have a clear understanding of who they are as a rider.
My trainer has a lovely friend who is very knowledgable about horses. She has no bad intentions and really cares about her horses. She's bred a couple of fantastic horses. Only problem is she breeds horses that are totally unsuitable for her as a rider. She is very petite and has like, no leg. She creates these very tall, very athletic horses that she just cannot keep up with. She doesn't always seem to get that and has ended up injuring herself, once very, very badly, because she insists on working with them (with not nearly enough confidence or leadership) and then riding them.
I like her. I like her horses. I do not like her riding her horses. I like other people who are a better match riding her horses.
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I was riding a friends nice eq horse for her when she was in school. She called a few times to see how he was doing and I didn't have to heart to tell her that he was a pita and spent most of the rides chewing like crazy on the bit and trying to run off with me at one end of the ring, so I just kept telling her he was waiting for her to come back!-JustWorld International-
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I'm the same. I have met plenty of horses I wouldn't want to own, but I didn't really dislike them, they just weren't my type.Originally posted by Alagirl View Postbut I really have not seen a horse I disliked.
A misbehaved horse usually has an owner who lets it happen. And even if it was a friend....
When I was a kid it was easier to speak my mind... nowadays, as adult you have to weigh your words carefully.
I have had friends whose horses I didn't like to be around, but in every case I was pretty sure it was a training problem, not something inherent to the horse. I guess that might kind of be splitting hairs, though.
Though I tend to take the attitude that if it makes my friend happy, I'll support it. I'll speak up at dangerous or abusive things (though fortunately the former has only cropped up once and the latter never) but as long as everyone is safe and happy I figure it's none of my concern.
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I had the horse that other people didn't like!
He cribbed, bolted and bucked (not with me, though - I swear - we just got along great!), bit at other horses when they walked by his stall...
He had a select few that he behaved like a gentleman for; everyone else, forget it. To be honest, I couldn't even defend him much because it was true that if so-and-so rode him he might try to buck her off or bolt tandomly and if I kept him at your house he might tear your barn apart with his cribbing...
I am happy to say he and I got along great and he spent most of his life with me.
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The only one I've ever had issues with was one that the owner got very very fit, and then stopped riding. She became absolutely impossible to handle when I needed to do so, to the point where she would try to run me down occasionally. Forget trying to catch her in a reasonable amount of time. She also put some major scratches in the hood of my truck because she loved to chew on anything metal.
But, she was bred to be a high-energy mare with an attitude, so I guess it's to be expected. I just won't put up with that kind of behavior on my property. Mine aren't destructive and haven't ever tried to mow me down, even when I get too busy to ride them.
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I "liked" my friends horses after I taught them manners! I dislike horses that are pushy and generally don't listen to what the person on the ground wants. They are too big to be pushy!
Well I like one of them..Kinda? one is a POS gelding who needs to be sent out to pasture. He is never sound lame in the hind in addition, and has the worst attitude I've ever seen in a OTTB! He hates to work, and takes advantage of her when she rides him! Granted since I've been helping her he's gotten a ton better but I'd still rather find her a nice horse that wants to do what she wants! Her other guy...well she looks at her horses through rose colored glasses. I can't wait until she actually has a nice horse!
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This says it for me.Originally posted by 7HL View PostSo far haven't known or been around a horse I disliked...owners on the other hand."The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein
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I ride with a gal who is a good good friend. She has a horse that gaits fantastically but who ground manners are sometimes extremely annoying. nastily so. She isn;t mean, just a wierd horse at times. I wouldn't own her but this friend loves this horse to death in spite of all her friends making statements like sell her, put her in a meat lockers, you need a better horse.
I just don't think my friend and her horse are a good match. Both too sensitive and feed off of each other when things get crazy. Don;t want my friend hurt. She has come off of the mare a couple of times --never a buck, usually something silly like crossing a ditch or a spook from a bag of cards at a poker run. Mare just drops a shoulder and friend slides off.
They have gone to a trainer and things seem to be better. With that and riding only in limited numbers like 2 or 4, it seems to be working. Hope so, cause my horses love her horse. And we travel well together.
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I really have met very few horses I dislike. There are some that wouldn't physically meet my needs, so I wouldn't buy them for myself, but they are normally nice enough animals and I can normally see how they make my friends happy. If a horse goes badly or acts badly, I normally feel sorry for them and would love to be able to help the owner improve their riding or general horsemanship. But with age comes wisdom - as long as there's no abuse, I don't get involved. I have spoken up when people I consider friends were losing their tempers and being unfair - has happened twice in 20+ years. I don't care how impolite it seems, if the horse is suffering, I'll say something, friend or no. Otherwise, if I don't have something nice to say, I won't say anything at all.
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I am sure my BFF wonders why on earth I love my ottb heart horse so much, since she is a warmblood aficionado herself and an excellent dressage rider in her own right and my heart horse really does not have the athletic ability to excel in either dressage or the hunters. Servicably perform, yes. Excel? No.
(But I wuuuuuuuvvvv him!)
She has ridden heart horse and they don’t particularly get along. I have ridden her heart horse and we don’t particularly get along. So generally we stick to our own heart horses, lol.
She is most certainly hoping I don’t die prematurely, or at least before my heart horse does, because if I do, tag she is it.The Noodlehttp://tiny.cc/NGKmT&http://tiny.cc/gioSA
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The Hana is nuts! NUTS!!http://tinyurl.com/SOCRAZY
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Most I like - there is one though that I dislike with a passion.
He's huge (over 18 hands), young and spoiled. He managed to kick me once in the aisle (he was aiming at my horse and missed). So I don't trust him in the aisle and since he's also tried kicking while working under saddle, I don't trust him in the indoor/outdoor arena either. He has been in training on and off and he's getting better - but, I still don't like him.http://fromdressagehorsetocowpony.blogspot.com/
"I am still under the impression that there is nothing alive quite so beautiful as a thoroughbred horse." -- John Galsworthy
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No.
I ride differently from my friends' that have horses (even though we all ride English) and they selected horses most suitable for their style of riding and confidence level.
One has a backyard type mare my SO's friend's dad bred (as well as the mare's dam). She's just short, stocky, and stiff with little GOOD training and respect instilled in her. I might like her if someone put some work into her, but my friend doesn't ride enough or have the confidence level to do that. As far as personality on the ground, her and her dam are sweet, but have not had respect instilled in them. I DO love her mini though! Also came from my SO's friend's dad.
My other friend has a cute lower level eventer, but he's a one-person type horse. Generally just aloof to anyone but her on the ground, and she's the only one that can get the best out of him under saddle. He is nice to watch though!
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I'm with most in that some I like, some I don't and some I won't ride. None are bad per se but a few have issues I just won't deal with. I had the PITA mare and more than one friend hung in there as I dealt with her issue of the day. What really threw everyone was just how jekyl and hyde she could be especially at shows. Show time she was perfect, house and visiting.... I'll take door number 3 bob!Adoring fan of A Fine Romance
Originally Posted by alicen:
What serious breeder would think that a horse at that performance level is push button? Even so, that's still a lot of buttons to push.
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