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  • Anybody tired of paying over $3.00 for fuel?

    I am so angry about the fuel prices, it has impacted me on a daily basis and in more ways than sobbing at the tanks while I fuel up my truck. It impacts the cost of food, and feed, and hay and everything. Yet, EXXON has the never to beat their chests and gloat over the fact that 2007 was their most profitable year. I received the following e-mail today and it makes good sense ... I think that it is time that the Americans on the board remembered that our ancestors didn't take these kinds of wrongs sitting down .... so, what do you think:


    THIS IS NOT THE 'DON'T BUY' GAS FOR ONE DAY, BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE CAN GET GAS BACK DOWN TO $1.30 PER GALLON.

    This was sent by a retired Coca Cola executive. It came from one of his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton. If you are tired of the gas prices going up AND they will continue to rise this summer, take time to read this please.

    Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea.

    This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May!
    It's worth your consideration. Join the resistance!!!!

    I hear we are going to hit close to $ 4.00 a gallon by next summer and it might go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down?

    We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas.

    It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
    BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can Really work. &nbs p; Please read on and join with us!

    By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $2.00 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $2.98 for regular unleaded in my town.

    Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50 - $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace...not sellers.

    With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action.

    The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.

    How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas.

    But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war.

    Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL.

    If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.
    But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

    I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) .. and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers.

    If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!

    If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

    Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all!

    (If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician. But I am . so trust me on this one.

    How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!!

    I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you!
    Acting together we can make a difference.

    If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $2.00 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.


    Keep it going

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    I've read this before, and I dont' buy there anyway-I live in a small town, and their price is $3.19gal! I'm lucky though and recently bought a GeoMetro! Great on gas...but still -the price of everything else is ridiculous.

    Unless we start carpooling, combine trips to the grocery, etc. there will be no impact. I say-everyone stay home every weekend for a month-or make a huge effort to not buy gas on SAt-Sun. Yes, we need gas...but we need to be smart, go to the store with neighbors, put together neighborhood groups. If you need to go somewhere and are low on gas...ask your neighbor if they're going to the store that day-and if so...ask if you can go alone. It's the only way to lower these prices. That, or the truckers go on strike again as they did the last time.
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    • #3
      Well, that sounds more likely to work than the "don't buy gas for a day" strategy, but as long as I am surrounded by people who ask "Why am I fat?" out of one side of their mouth while cramming a supersize Big Mac Meal in the other side, I remain jaded and slightly hopeless about the ability of the population to practice restraint and long-term planning. I'd love to hear from economists on this board though, I know there have been some extremely interesting discussions about these kinds of things here before.

      HR: I can't buy a truck and trailer at this point to haul with because I can't afford the gas, I'm sticking with my Honda and relying on others to take me places infrequently. That's horse related.
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      • #4
        Heck, I wish I was only paying $3.00 for gas. My fill today was at $3.40.The good news is that because of the fuel prices, I was forced to get a 2nd job to help pay for my gas and horse feed. My second job is feeding horses!!!!!!! I love my second job. So if was not for the fuel prices, I would be missing out and all the extra snuggle time with horses.
        R.I.P Vanny 26 yr QH Stallion 4/11/82 - 5/8/08, Scout 28 yr Paint Cross Gelding, Glistening 11 yr Arab/Saddlebred Mare

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        • #5
          It won't work just like the "don't buy gas for day" won't work.

          Gasoline is a "fungible commodity." It's fed by a refinery into a pipelind. It then comes into a terminal from the pipleline. There it's picked up and then "branded" as each company adds its own package of addititves. Then it goes on a truck and gets delivered to a retail outlet. If you stop buying from one retail outlet the amount consumed stays exactly the same. You will just give you money to Retailer A vice Retailer B.

          Will Retailer B lower prices to compete? Probably, but only until breakeven point. They may run a "loss leader" for a short period of time but nobody can run a loss forever.

          If you want to save money on fuel then slow down. A 10% reduction in average speed will yeild a 20% increase in fuel economy. With the big vehicles that many of us have for pulling trailers that's a Big Deal.

          G.
          Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

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          • #6
            Everybody's feeling the impact of gas prices in many facets of their lives, horsey in particular, as the OP noted.

            To keep it horse-related, let's limit this discussion to the horse-related impact of gas prices and ways we can improve our personal situations they affect, and not focus on the potential economics of boycotting specific gas companies. Good suggestion to start Guilherme.

            Thanks!
            Last edited by Moderator 1; Mar. 6, 2008, 11:30 AM. Reason: added info

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            • #7
              My "solution" was to replace my 15 year old car (that already got 35mpg) with a car that gets 40mpg (Toyota Yaris). The truck is pretty much only used to pull the trailer a couple times a week on short mileage trips (20 miles round trip).
              Sandra

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              • #8
                Doesn't anybody check snopes before passing things like this on? First, the people it's attributed to probably had nothing to do with it except they forwarded it at some point, as this thing has been around for years... second... well:

                http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp
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                • #9
                  The problem with the "Don't Buy Gas On Whatever Day" strategy is that it doesn't reduce your overall consumption of gas. If you don't change your useage habits you continue to use the same amount of gas - whether you buy it on Saturday, Thursday, St. Patrick's Day, the Lunar Eclipse, or whatever doesn't matter. You'll still end up buying the same amount of gas if you keep the same lifestyle patterns.

                  What you CAN do to make an impact is change your routine to maximize your efficency and plan your gas useage better. For example, rather than go to work, go home to change and then go to the barn - just take your riding clothes with you and change at the barn. It sounds stupidly simple, but most of us take a few trips a week that could be eliminated. If you cut down the amount of mileage you are putting on the road, you are cutting down the amount of gas you are using.

                  Another example - I have a 45 minute commute and blast thru a TON of gas every week simply getting to and from work. My very kind and green-minded boss was kind enough to let me rearrang my schedule so that I work four 10 hour days instead of five eight hour days. That cuts an hour and a half of traveling (80 miles of driving!) out of my life every week!

                  Taking the math a little further - that cuts around 320 miles out of my monthly driving - assuming an average of 32 miles per gallon, that's about 10 gallons of gas each month that I DO NOT NEED TO BUY. Depending on the price of gas, that's anywhere from $31.00 - $38.50 that I'm not giving the gas companies.

                  It IS possible to make an impact, but it's more complicated than simply not buying gas on a specific day - it's about making a CHANGE in your habits. Unfortunately, a lot of people simply can't (you have to go to work, you have to pick up the kids, etc) or won't and so we're stuck in situations like this.
                  Whee!

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                  • #10
                    Good Lord, why is this old chestnut still making the rounds?

                    OP are you aware that most gasoline stations are independently owned and operated, so all you're doing is taking money out of the pockets of the station owners, not the oil companies themselves?

                    The station owners have already paid for the gasoline in their underground tanks.

                    Plus, if you're not giving your money to one owner, you're giving it to another. Nothing will be obtained by boycotting the branded stations.

                    As others have said, individuals need to curb their own bad habits.
                    Homeopathy claims water can cure you since it once held medicine. That's like saying you can get sustenance from an empty plate because it once held food.

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                    • #11
                      It's costing me $12-$15 per DAY just to drive to the barn and Home again, at $3.29 a gallon.And it's winter in NY, resulting in less than prime, weather, road and footing conditions..My BO is now officially in charge of Kissing and scritching my boy every day.
                      NY has very, very high gas and road taxes.I have friends who live on the borders of NJ and Pa and actually drive 10 minutes out of their way to fill up in another state.

                      I was anxiously awaiting the ready availability of ethanol, until I read the article that told me that ethanol actually reduces the fuel efficiency of any vehicle by 20-25%, and takes a HUGE amount of water to produce. Just what the drought affected areas of the country need, right??
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                      • #12
                        I think the only solution is to ride our horses to work instead of our cars. The only down fall is that it would take me hours to ride, where as it takes me 45 minutes to drive. Now to find a job closer to home.
                        R.I.P Vanny 26 yr QH Stallion 4/11/82 - 5/8/08, Scout 28 yr Paint Cross Gelding, Glistening 11 yr Arab/Saddlebred Mare

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                        • #13
                          Deisel in Ontario is $1.13 per litre 3.78x 1.13 ='s $4.27 pergallon

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Candle View Post
                            ...as long as I am surrounded by people who ask "Why am I fat?" out of one side of their mouth while cramming a supersize Big Mac Meal in the other side, I remain jaded and slightly hopeless about the ability of the population to practice restraint and long-term planning.
                            Too true.
                            Originally posted by Irish Ei's
                            I was anxiously awaiting the ready availability of ethanol, until I read the article that told me that ethanol actually reduces the fuel efficiency of any vehicle by 20-25%, and takes a HUGE amount of water to produce. Just what the drought affected areas of the country need, right??
                            Houston mandated the addition of ethanol (10% blend), so now we all pay more for less and then end up burning even more fuel. Some plan, eh? They warned that efficiency could drop as much as 10%, but I have seen almost 20% in my own vehicle. I doubt they will reverse the decision on ethanol any time soon though.
                            "I did know once, only I've sort of forgotten." - Winnie the Pooh

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by snbess View Post
                              My "solution" was to replace my 15 year old car (that already got 35mpg) with a car that gets 40mpg (Toyota Yaris). The truck is pretty much only used to pull the trailer a couple times a week on short mileage trips (20 miles round trip).
                              Sandra
                              I tow my horse and use as a daily commuter a large SUV with a V8. I'm honestly thinking about getting a smaller car for daily driving and saving my SUV for towing only. It will cost a tad more in the beginning until I pay the car off, but in the long run I'll be ahead if these prices continue to be this high or higher.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Irish Ei's View Post
                                I was anxiously awaiting the ready availability of ethanol, until I read the article that told me that ethanol actually reduces the fuel efficiency of any vehicle by 20-25%, and takes a HUGE amount of water to produce. Just what the drought affected areas of the country need, right??
                                And it takes a bit of energy to produce too, which requires the use of... fossil fuels!

                                And beyond making gas less efficient, subsidies for ethanol production mean higher hay and grain prices for us, to boot, since many producers switched to corn. yay!
                                "smile a lot can let us ride happy,it is good thing"

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                                • #17
                                  The diesel to pull my horse trailer and get my mares to the repro clinic to be bred and foaled out now costs $3.89/gallon and I know it's going up.
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                                  • #18
                                    I filled my car up last night.

                                    Petrol was £1.05 per litre, so $7.94 per US gallon.

                                    Diesel was £1.11 per litre, so $8.40 per gallon

                                    Your prices don't seem so bad now do they?

                                    And before anyone comes out with that old 'but you drive smaller cars in Europe' chestnut, remember that most horse people have a very thirsty horse lorry to fill up...

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                                    • #19
                                      I wish I was paying $3 gallon. Try $1.18/litre... that's $4.59/gallon given that USD and CAD are pretty much at par these days. they're predicting it will go to $1.40/l, or $5.44/gallon.

                                      This will absolutly put a kink in my riding plans; I' drive 45min each way to the barn, so I'll be sticking with my half lease instead of shopping for my own.

                                      STILL better than EE's costs tho. WOW!
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                                      • #20
                                        You know, while it HURTS to pay that much more for gas, it's time for all of us to "get over it" and suck it up. People in Europe having been paying well over $3 a gallon for many years now. We've been pretty spoiled, and the big auto manufacturers and the oil/gas industry (supported by our government) in general have blown off efforts to reduce our dependence upon imported oil and create vehicles that are more fuel efficient and/or use alternative fuels. Now we are paying the price.

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