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    PSA: Pony Sternum > Human Foot

    Just in case anyone else tries it!

    The Story(it's long!): I was out feeding the horses Monday am before work. Horses are happily munching on grain and I start mucking out the run in. This requires me to fill a mucktub and then empty said mucktub into the spreader nearby. There is a fence around said spreader and I need to climb up one rung to dump manure. So manage the climbing up the fence and dumping manure out. As I'm climbing down the one rung (~1' off ground), my right ankle totally gives way with all on my weight on it. I thank whatever deities were listening that the mucktub was empty at that point as I crashed down, mucktub flying overhead.

    My ankle has rolled before (7 years of soccer...), but jeez louise this one hurts! I clamber up using a post nearby, ankle is searing but allowing me to put some weight on it. Limp into house and inspect, considerable swelling... crap. I drive myself up into the city to the ER, it's an hour drive and I have a manual, so no using the left foot only. I pull up to an automatic gate that is not opening, Skippy the parking attendant approaches and asks what I'm doing. "I broke my ankle, I need x rays." Oh, he opens the gate. I go in, get settled into a room with a large woman, who it turns out has been constipated for 4 days... joy!

    Nurse comes by and asks the usuals, inspects swollen ankle. She asks me what happened, "I fell off a fence." Thinking that is the most concise answer I can come up with. She gives me a weird look "At 730 in the morning, you were climbing a fence?" Oh, great inner city ER... lots of break ins and such. "I was feeding my horses" "OHHH!" This is repeated to almost every ER personnel I come into contact... Maybe I should have said something really spectacular, like I saved a baby from getting run over...

    So xrays are taken of foot and ankle. Constipated lady gets an enema while I'm gone, good lord it stunk!! Seriously debating leaving AMA at this point. Ortho Dr comes in starts poking at my foot and ankle. Really focusing at the top on my foot near my 2nd toe.
    Dr: "You sure this doesn't hurt?"
    Me:"No, my ankle hurts"
    In my head: like where it's swollen and I keep flinching every time you run over the one bony spot.
    Dr: "You're sure you weren't stepped on?"
    Me: "No, my ankle rolled." The horses were 10' away from me and didn't move throughout my display of Newton's theory of gravity. I'm really wondering wth is going on...
    Dr: "huh..."

    OMG, the lightbulb goes off! Last Summer (2009), I was bringing in horses at my trainer's farm. One pony was crowding the gate and trying to go over me while I had 2 other horses in hand. I did the only thing I could think off... I kicked him as hard as I could with the toe of my boot! I hit him square in the sternum, he really didn't care. My foot hurt like a SOB, kept saying as days went by "I might have broke my foot." People kept disuading me, "Nah, you wouldn't be able to walk if it was broken." But it did hurt for a good while and gimped around for weeks! No swelling or bruising, just pain. Never got xrays as I had no insurance and I couldn't afford NOT to work, so I kept on going...

    Yeah, apparently I DID break something that summer and now my foot looks like a train wreck judging by the Dr.s' faces. Good thing I didn't tell them the time I'm pretty sure I had a hairline fracture on my tibia...

    So for the time being, I have a moderately sprained ankle with a nice bone chip. I'm hobbling around in an air cast and get some nice drugs (whoo hoo, narcotics!!). I hope I can look at my xrays when I see the specialist next week, I really want to see what the heck I did to my foot!

    So for that story you now know: If you must kick a horse in the chest, use your HEEL and not your TOE! Unless you enjoy having Ortho Docs look at you like you have a bone disorder...

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    LOL, I had a yearling who charged the door of his stall and I did the same thing...........kicked him in the chest with my toe. You guessed it, broken toes with the bone pushed into the joint of my big toe. Funky shoe and narcotics.
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      #3
      I'm just hoping the specialist I see next week is not going to suggest "fixing" the foot by rebreaking the bones and resetting or anything goofy like that! I can walk just fine and am in no pain, thank you very much.

      Now if he could stop my ankle from rolling at choice moments, then I'd be a happy camper. This ankle can roll at any time, perfectly even concrete to uneven terrain and in all assortments of footgear, sneakers, combat boots, riding boots... you name it, the ankle can roll on or in it!

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      • #4
        One morning on the way to the barn, I stubbed my toe on a rock. It really hurt, but I limped on down to the barn and proceeded to do chores. As I was putting hay out, one of the weanlings swing his butt toward me like he was thinking about kicking me. Without thinking, I kicked him soundly in the butt with the same foot along with some yelling of course. Holey moley, I about passed out it hurt so bad . Aparently I had slightly "cracked" my big toe on the rock then really broke it kicking the colt. Hobbled around for a month or so but thankfully it healed.

        I guess kicking horses is just a bad idea Although that little guy never did think about kicking again.
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        • #5
          Didn't your soccer coach ever yell at you for toe punching the ball? Use your laces! Sheesh!

          I've kicked a horse in the chest before for trying to walk over me. I didn't jam or break anything. However, a friend of mine enjoyed an orthopedic boot, variety of splints, and pain meds this past summer when her big toe met her gelding's sternum in precisely the right - or wrong, as it were - way. She's lucky she didn't break it, and watching the way she hobbled around her arena for months, it didn't look like a pleasant recovery.
          "I did know once, only I've sort of forgotten." - Winnie the Pooh

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          • #6
            Sorry for laughing about your latest injury, but the way you wrote it, it was a bit comical.

            Years ago I had a nuclear bone scan done, and the technician asked me if I knew that I had arthritis in my feet. I a had always attributed the achy feet to years of being stomped on, and the various breaks and sprains from being clumsy in general. Of course all that might have been a contributing factor to the arthritic feet I suppose.

            On the topic of surgeons wanting to break bones and put in pins. I had a surgeon want to do that to correct a bunion situation with my feet. When he told me 6 weeks in a cast, I said no thanks, and just bought more comfortable footware. That was 20 years ago.

            Hope you heal up quickly.
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            • #7
              It's funny what injuries we will ignore or what things we think caused the injury.

              Years ago I was riding my pony (Ok, years and years ago) fell off, hopped back on and went about my day. Later dad comes to pick me up and I opoen the big Oldsmobile door and the pain just radiates through my arm. Turns out I had a buckle fracture (something about I was young so my bones weren't solid and it buckled instead of snapped). For years we blamed it on the heavy car door oopening quickly straight into my arm. Until a few years later we were sitting around chatting and I said "yeah remember that time I took that dive off of Misty in the field, you know the same day that I broke my arm on the car door" Everyone looked at me and my father said: maybe it was landing on your arm that fractured it and not the car door? Hmmmm... guess so :


              Good luck that it gets sorted out quickly and efficiently.


              and I too learned the hard way that you can still walk on a broken foot.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Heliodoro
                I'm just hoping the specialist I see next week is not going to suggest "fixing" the foot by rebreaking the bones and resetting or anything goofy like that! I can walk just fine and am in no pain, thank you very much.
                Hopefully not! With any luck, the specialist will approve of your slightly mishapen but functional and pain-free tootsie. They usually only go all radical on you if there's current pain and more problems looming in the future.

                Originally posted by MunchkinsMom View Post
                On the topic of surgeons wanting to break bones and put in pins. I had a surgeon want to do that to correct a bunion situation with my feet. When he told me 6 weeks in a cast, I said no thanks, and just bought more comfortable footware.
                They tell you 6 weeks. After surgery, the story changes to 3 months. I'm 6 more days out from returning to the saddle after my optional saw-in-half/shorten/re-assemble surgery. I may have tried putting it off a bit longer had I known that 6-8 weeks would become 12-14 weeks... not that it was really avoidable.
                "I did know once, only I've sort of forgotten." - Winnie the Pooh

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                  Originally posted by Aggie4Bar View Post
                  They tell you 6 weeks. After surgery, the story changes to 3 months. I'm 6 more days out from returning to the saddle after my optional saw-in-half/shorten/re-assemble surgery. I may have tried putting it off a bit longer had I known that 6-8 weeks would become 12-14 weeks... not that it was really avoidable.
                  Which is exactly why I said "no thank you". Even just the 6 weeks would have been a hardship, it is my right foot, I had a long commute to work, and was a self-employed contractor, so no work = no pay. Not an option as I would not have been able to drive with pins in my bones and my foot in a cast. And the not riding and doing barn chores? My horse was in a self-care boarding situation, that was not going to work out either. Since mine was more of an elective surgery, I elected not to have it done.
                  There are friends and faces that may be forgotten, but there are horses that never will be. - Andy Adams

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Heliodoro View Post
                    I'm just hoping the specialist I see next week is not going to suggest "fixing" the foot by rebreaking the bones and resetting or anything goofy like that! I can walk just fine and am in no pain, thank you very much.

                    Now if he could stop my ankle from rolling at choice moments, then I'd be a happy camper. This ankle can roll at any time, perfectly even concrete to uneven terrain and in all assortments of footgear, sneakers, combat boots, riding boots... you name it, the ankle can roll on or in it!

                    I had my rolling ankle fixed about 8 years ago. They went in and cleaned up scar tissue that had formed from rolling and multiple sprains to it and ended up having to shorten the ligaments (I think) a tad. Well, 4 years ago, I fell down the steps outside my door. My left leg and ankle decided they wanted to stay put--and being that my innards on the leg/ankle were so tight, they didn't give, and thus helped to create a break--tri malleolar fracture. At least that's what my doctors told me after they had put me back together. So, getting it fixed for the rolling was good until my not so horsey related accident.

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                    • #11
                      About 7 almost 8 yrs ago, I got a breast reduction done.
                      First appointment & evaluation with my plastic surgeon was in March. Surgery scheduled for July while the slab to my new house was curing.
                      In the meantime-April/May, while I was a breaking a horse to ride. Said horse loved to rear instead of going forward. I pulled her over --into roundpen fence/wall. Horse/me/fence sandwich. My upper body was sore, got adjusted by my chiro, just not quite right.....
                      Surgery day, plastic surgeon asks when did I broke my collarbone? I had the dumbfounded look of "what are you talking about?" She said that raised part of your right collarbone... 6-8 weeks of sleeping in the recliner, no lifting, no twisting/moving,....finally allowed the collarbone to heal.

                      I don't pull horses over unless I am free of any barriers...I try to avoid coming off in all aspects especially emergency departs...I hate not knowing where I am landing and on what!

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                      • #12
                        I did something very similar years ago (I made contact with the cannon bone with a charging horse) - my big toe felt broken and turned pretty colours and I was gimping around so my coach forced me to go to the hospital. I was so mortified that I had kicked a horse (not to mention the potential animal abuse rumours that could start) that I lied and told them I had kicked a fence post while tamping it.

                        It was not broken and I just splinted it to the next toe. This is years later and it aches with weather changes, I get twinges if I step on it funny, and it hurts while I'm rock climbing.

                        Lesson learned: when trying to correct charging horses, aim for a meaty part I don't think the horse in question learned anything at all, except maybe some new words!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Aggie4Bar View Post
                          Hopefully not! With any luck, the specialist will approve of your slightly mishapen but functional and pain-free tootsie. They usually only go all radical on you if there's current pain and more problems looming in the future.

                          They tell you 6 weeks. After surgery, the story changes to 3 months. I'm 6 more days out from returning to the saddle after my optional saw-in-half/shorten/re-assemble surgery. I may have tried putting it off a bit longer had I known that 6-8 weeks would become 12-14 weeks... not that it was really avoidable.
                          Oh, too bad.
                          My "positive ulnar reduction" surgery went so well the surgeon let me go sooner than expected.
                          Guess I heal very, very quickly.

                          It was great, I went from a wrist hurting all day and night and barely functional, that was about to start fusing, to complete, unrestricted use.

                          Now, since he left the plate and screws in there, if I hold a horse's foot up too long or strain doing it, the arm does get crampy, the bone is not as flexible as one without the hardware.

                          I hope the OP will heal well and maybe think about wearing some kind of footwear with thick soles and more ankle support?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bluey View Post
                            Now, since he left the plate and screws in there, if I hold a horse's foot up too long or strain doing it, the arm does get crampy, the bone is not as flexible as one without the hardware.
                            What is with that? Especially in this chilly weather. I'm almost willing to swear the plate gets cold b/c my arm gets so annoyingly achy.

                            I got booted out of physical therapy way early because my recovery was so much faster than they anticipated. So that was the excellent part. Unfortunately, the bone hasn't been keeping pace; it's still healing. For that reason, doc painted the most loffly (meaning horrifically gruesome) picture of what could happen if too much tension was applied to the not-yet-healed bone and has scared me into obeying.
                            "I did know once, only I've sort of forgotten." - Winnie the Pooh

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Aggie4Bar View Post
                              What is with that? Especially in this chilly weather. I'm almost willing to swear the plate gets cold b/c my arm gets so annoyingly achy.

                              I got booted out of physical therapy way early because my recovery was so much faster than they anticipated. So that was the excellent part. Unfortunately, the bone hasn't been keeping pace; it's still healing. For that reason, doc painted the most loffly (meaning horrifically gruesome) picture of what could happen if too much tension was applied to the not-yet-healed bone and has scared me into obeying.
                              You always have to do what the Dr tells you, of course.

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                                I hope the OP will heal well and maybe think about wearing some kind of footwear with thick soles and more ankle support?
                                It really doesn't matter what footwear I have on. I was wearing pretty sturdy winter paddock boots, laced tight this week when I crashed and burned. I have the really clunky Gortex combat boots from BCT and I've managed to roll my ankle in those too... if there's a will, there's a way and apparently my ankle is extremely opinionated!

                                It's feeling alright, though the aircast they gave me doesn't stay in place so if I actually walk on it, the cast rides up against the bone chip...OW! So I've been toe limping this week. The bruise is going to be a beauty, just starting to get red on the outside. I might have to post pictures!

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