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  • I just don't understand- Rescues/Adoption

    I am in the market for a new horse. I went from 4 horses this year down to my daughters' 12 hand Welsh pony (lease ended, sold another and had to euthanize my heart horse of 30 years).
    So in the process of looking at horse sale ads, networking etc I decided that it would be nice to look at some rescues to give a horse a home that needs one, bonus if it's what I'm looking for (ideally a draft cross with a good mind to primarily trail ride with my daughter, do some low level dressage maybe even some weenie eventing).
    Anyway, to the point of my post. I found a website of a rescue here in New England that has a couple of horses I might be interested in. UNTIL I read their adoption application and saw this:
    No horse adopted from H.O.R.S.E. of CT may be used for showing, jumping or lesson programs. This includes 4H and other youth programs, which involve showing.
    WTF? Doesn't this mean that a lot of good homes are now not available to horses that need them? How could showing or doing some jumping not be ok?
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  • #2
    Some rescues are run by whackjobs. Sounds like you ran into one that has a grudge against 4-H, or against horses actually doing something besides eating and pooping.

    Keep looking - there are a lot of terrific rescues out there who would love for you to take a horse home.
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    • #3
      I have to agree...a lot of rescues have such restrictive policies that no one is eligible. And not just for horses. Dogs and cats too. I get that they want to protect those in their charge but a good home comes in many forms.

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      • #4
        Some rescues make my head spin. I can understand them wanting horses returned to them if it doesn't work out after all the work they put into saving/rehabbing/homing, and I can understand check ins, but not wanting a horse to show or be used for lessons appropriately? That's extreme. You screen your applicants to try and make sure they aren't the type who will use a horse in multiple lessons a day, every day, and run them into the ground. Yeesh.

        The ones who make it so pretty much no one is approved, or even wants to apply to adopt from them sometimes make me wonder if they aren't really just hoarders.

        OP, I'm sorry about your losses, and hope you have better luck with other rescues you look at if that's the route you chose! There's some very nice ones who only place specific limitations on specific horses depending on what is appropriate for the individual, a handful of them even adopt outside their home state. Best wishes in your search!
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        • #5
          Wow, it sounds like that rescue really doesn't want to find new homes for the horses!

          I'm all for a rescue carefully screening a new home, but adding prohibitive restrictions like that is just nuts and is obviously preventing those horses from going to a potentially great new home.

          Kudos to eventamy for at least looking at rescues for a new horse.
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          • #6
            I know of a rescue who puts a clause like that in their contracts for companion horses, as in ones that can't be ridden or are only sound for very light riding because they had a couple of issues with people adopting them and then overusing them as kid's horses, specifically in 4H.

            But yeah, as a general contract that's pretty insane. If it helps, I've worked with several rescues and none of them have restrictions like that (except the one mentioned above, but they didn't do that for their sound horses).
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            • #7
              I've come to believe many rescues are run by people that don't think anyone but themselves knows how to take care of animals. They want the horse (dog, cat, etc) to go to a "perfect" home.

              Have you looked at your vet clinic or feed store to see if someone has a horse they can no longer keep? You're too far away, but the horses at the Greener Pastures rescue are beautiful and the adoption fee is very reasonable.

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              • #8
                just go to craig's list, I am sure there will be many in need of a home that will meet your criteria.
                save lives...spay/neuter/geld

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                • #9
                  There are plenty of reputable rescues, and plenty of awful ones as well. Be sure you are dealing with a very well-known rescue or you will end up in misery. There are plenty of hoarders, oops, I mean rescuers who are totally clueless and really don't want to adopt out any of their horses at all.

                  If all of the horses at this particular rescue are injured in some way then I see their point. If not, then I'd run.

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                  • #10
                    I just got a rescue horse myself. There are so many different ones around so make sure you look at them all. Also, look at the conditions that you have to agree to. The agency that I got Baron from says that I am allowed to sell down the road as long as the buyer is approved by them first. A lot of places make you sign to never sell or compete, but there are ones out there that let you. You could also try looking at cards in local tack shops- around me a few rescues put information for people to see there. Many horses at rescues are off the track and were only hurt enough to end their racing career. Make a list of questions involving food, past health issues, supplements, how they are in the field, etc.

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                    • #11
                      I ran into a similar situation looking for another dog after one of our old ones passed this summer.

                      We have about 4 acres enclosed by an underground electric fence, which we got to contain the hound puppy that wandered into our lives a couple years ago. We made the investment because of how many new houses (and thus new traffic) has built up on our road in the last decade or so.

                      We tend to have larger, working breed dogs that are happiest if they can run. and even in the middle of 54 acres and almost a mile from the road, we knew it would be safer for all concerned with a limit on doggie freedom. The fence runs along the horse fencing so that dogs can't get in with horses.

                      But I was told a number of times that electric fencing is cruel by various rescues. Really? The kind of dogs I've always have can go under, over or through almost any fence if properly motivated. And I want house & farm dogs, not something in a chainlink kennel.

                      The right rescue will look at the total picture and work for the right match. The one we adopted from was thrilled this setter could run and chase birds (which she will never catch) to her heart's content and still be safely contained.

                      Keep looking! You will find your match and also find a great rescue to support long term. Good Luck!

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                      • #12
                        I just read their restrictions. Yeah, those are the programs I won't deal with. Basically you pay them a bunch of money to borrow a horse as they never transfer ownership. I wouldn't give someone $2000 for a horse that's not mine.
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                        • #13
                          Reputable rescue, many drafts & draft crosses. Most need moderately experienced handling, but they are well-regarded locally. I have volunteered there and donated; they do a lovely job at bringing along neglect cases.

                          http://www.gentlegiantsdrafthorseres...bleHorses.html

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                          • #14
                            I definitely would look elsewhere if you are going to be paying $2,000 for a rescue, especially with such restrictions. I was able to get my OTTB rescue for $500. He has no health problems, they just wanted to make sure he found a good home. Try googling horse rescues in the state and check out everywhere that you can online. Me and a couple of my best friends each searched for weeks before I found the rescue that I got Baer from. I had to drive an hour to look at him and then had to pay $200 to get him trailered to my college (3 hours away), but it was worth going to a rescue that had the conditions that I wanted.

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                            • #15
                              LoriB has a good idea, can anyone else suggest a good rescue to eventamy? Maybe a horse from Camelot.
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by danceronice View Post
                                I just read their restrictions. Yeah, those are the programs I won't deal with. Basically you pay them a bunch of money to borrow a horse as they never transfer ownership. I wouldn't give someone $2000 for a horse that's not mine.
                                Agree with this- I don't think I would ever adopt unless I got ownership like when I went to the pound and got ownership of my dog.
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Lori B View Post
                                  Reputable rescue, many drafts & draft crosses. Most need moderately experienced handling, but they are well-regarded locally. I have volunteered there and donated; they do a lovely job at bringing along neglect cases.

                                  http://www.gentlegiantsdrafthorseres...bleHorses.html

                                  Gentle Giants Draft Horse Rescue, Woodbine, MD
                                  I looked there when I was looking a couple months ago!There were a lot of good looking horses there. And Days End too, my friend does a lot of work there. I live in Carroll County, MD so I'm generally close to both of them.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Calhoun View Post
                                    LoriB has a good idea, can anyone else suggest a good rescue to eventamy? Maybe a horse from Camelot.
                                    A horse from Camelot is a good idea, the only problem is that you don't know a lot about them. This is where I got my horse from...

                                    http://www.acresofhopefarm.net/horses-for-adoption.html

                                    They are a mother-daughter organization and care about horses a lot. They also have a part of the site for contacts for people they trust. I would call them though about adoptions rather than going by the site completely because Hope (the owner) can't update the website as much as she wants. My horse is still on the adoption page and I've had him a month haha.

                                    Also try...

                                    http://www.defhr.org/

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                                    • #19
                                      Thanks Lori for mentioning Gentle Giants!

                                      Considering what you posted you were looking for, eventamy, I'd suggest Honey (she's young and still green but extraordinarily level-headed and kind. Plus really well-put together). Possibly Sugar, if you wanted something smallish (but I don't think she's been on trails yet so I can't say how she'd do on them). If you wanted more of a project, Cassidy is really nice and will probably be fine with being put under saddle but she's even younger than Honey.

                                      Not on the website, but recently returned is Dixie (returned along with the other two horses she went out with. Not horses' fault. Adoptor died and husband eventually returned them due to inability to keep them). She's an older Perch mare who's very good for trails (or was when she was here before). I'm told she didn't do well in our ring though (maybe would be okay in an outdoor? Unsure).

                                      Also returned with her was Texas and I don't remember how he does in the ring, but he was another great trail horse. His issue is that he pretty much can't be turned out with other geldings.

                                      (the third horse returned is named Kate, who has the nickname "Hateful Kate" so you might see why I didn't suggest her. That and I never saw anyone ride her so I actually have no idea how she goes)
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                                      • #20
                                        Unless you're the sort of person who's good at picking out horses at auction anyway and getting the good ones, I really really wouldn't suggest trying to get one from any of the broker programs, honestly. If you'd go to an auction and pick out a horse for yourself and feel confident you found a good one and handle any issues they might have? You'd probably be able to do the same with the ones in the broker lots.

                                        Though if you do want to get a Camelot horse (for instance), I'd try and find one who's already in a rescue somewhere and has been evaluated/re-habbed/trained so you can make space for another Camelot rescue.
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